Ergonomic Keyboards anyone?
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vaderjm wrote:
a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side
I have two "cursor/pointer" devices. One for each hand. A mouse for my right hand and a trackball for my left hand so I can vary usage throughout the day. I really like the trackball best though.
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Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]
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Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]
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I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.
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I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.
Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.
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Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.
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It is interesting to me that very few people use them. They have a lot of advantages and relieve a lot of stress on your hand. You can set your hand up so it is level and then use very little movement and be more precise with a trackball than a mouse a lot of times. Here's the one I really like and it's only $22.99 Amazon.com: Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse, Four-Button, Programmable, Dark Gray: Electronics[^] EDIT By the way, I bought two of these back in '96 or so and I'm still using the one I've used for work all those years. Amazing. The other one got a sticky button, but it lasted 15 years or something. :thumbsup:
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
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I don't use one of those ergonomic models, not a touch typist so they REALLY slow me down, but I have one of those original IBM model M "clicky" keyboards that I've held onto for decades and absolutely love. I find the very positive feedback of the "click" (mechanical feel and sound) reduces the force I put into typing which saves a lot on the fatigue I feel at the end of a long day of writing code. If I could get one that was "ergonomic" I might give it a try but it would take me a while to get my typing speed back up to what it is with a conventional "straight" keyboard. The one downside I've recently encountered with it is the lack of a "Windows" key, but I was able to remap the left ALT to that function so it's not a huge issue. I tried a Microsoft "Natural" years ago when my wife purchased one, felt like I was typing on a sponge, I hated the thing.
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
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Sweet. I will most likely be trying them both. Thanks!
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I use a variant of the marble track ball. Like the other guy said, it's my go-to and I've been buying replacements for years.
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
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Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!
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Finally. A Keyboard that makes my laptop feel lighter :-)
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
MANY years ago, a chiropractor worked with me to align my work environment. I would typically spend 10-15 hours in front of the computer, with the body to prove it, LOL. Here is an exercise I show everyone who will listen: Sit down at your computer Put you hands down on your keyboard to type. Notice the position of your shoulders, etc. Now lift your hands so your elbows are at 90 degrees, PALMS UP, point your thumbs out. The effect should be that your shoulders fall back a bit, and you are sitting with GOOD Posture. Now just rotate your hands down, and place them on the keyboard. Use this process to help adjust your keyboard height, and your wrist pad height, so your arms rest, with slightly more than a 90 degree bend (You want your hands aiming a little bit down, so that your hands get better circulation. Cold hands usually mean your keyboard is above your elbows! Next, lift your monitors up, off the desk, so you are comfortably looking forward. I make my eyes level point about 2/3rd of the way up, so I tend to hold my head level and can lift or set my eyes. FINALLY for those of you with near-sighted prescriptions. PLEASE get a special reading glasses prescription for use in front of the monitor. After YEARS of gradually worsening eyesight, and always increasing my prescriptions. THIS CHANGE STOPPED that. My eyes stabilized for 8 years, and then I had lasik 18 years ago, and have been fine since. I still spend 10+ hrs in front of the computer. It took me almost 4 weeks, 3 keyboards, and a keyboard tray (most expensive part), to setup my environment. But I Love it. Oh, for carpal tunnel, a great thing to try is a TINY Mouse. [Tiny Mouse](https://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Cart-Retractable-Optical-Laptop/dp/B005DUX5CM/ref=sr\_1\_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502582184&sr=1-5&keywords=tiny+mouse) I was surprised. Basically because you use literally your fingers, it removes a LOT of macro motion. YMMV... And I would try 5-6 cheap keyboards before I spent that kind of money. I use the slight bent intelli keyboard form microsoft.
