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1920x1080 in 21,5" or in 24" what is your preference?

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    Joan M
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    What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      Depends on how close you like the screen, both will be fine. Too big too close will hurt the eyes. My set up is a 20" on the desk about arms length away eye level about 2/3 from bottom with a 23" above and slightly behind it. Both 1920 x 1080 with extended desktop oriented to suit (i.e. move the mouse pointer past the top of the 20" to the bottom of the 23"). Also means those bits of paper on the desk are in the same line too. 20": For visual studio, and when not programming general usage (surfing, email, office etc). 23" used during intensive programming - to hold reference info (docs, searched info...) otherwise it's switched off. Being larger prefer it further back so can still see entire screen at a glance.) Yes that's my own personal preference; tried side by side (with same size screens) but found it like working in a tanning bed, harder on the eyes and actually suffered more migraines (- not fun.) (Also the screen above makes a good mirror when it's off, can see people behind me.)

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        What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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        Arthur V Ratz
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        I would particularly prefer 1920x1080 and size of more than or equal to 27". :) Also, as for me, I would shop around and take a closer look at those brand new 4K (3840x2160) monitors, or even at 8K if they're available on sale and you can afford it :-D

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          What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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          Arthur V Ratz
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          And just if you want to find out about those monitors you've recalled, just go to computer hardware store and ask a sales person about what is actually better. Also, as for me, I would choose the monitor having a valuable retina surface that protects your vision without distorting a picture. :-D But, anyway, it's actually up to you whichever monitor to purchase. Apparently these both (A) 21,5" => 102 dpi. (B) 23" => 95.8 dpi. you've listed are merely the same as far as I can understand. :) :) The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer. But, to elaborate, please specify particular models and vendors of those monitors you're about to buy. :)

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            What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

            www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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            23"

            «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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            • J Joan M

              What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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              Of the 2 choices, if I couldn't compare them in a store, 23". Best case for this stuff is to measure how far you sit from things and then sit in the store at that distance to choose. FWIIW: I went from 2 ea 20" monitors side by side (extended desktop 3200 by something) to 34" at 3440x1440. Those 2 20"ers served me very well for about 8 years. Got the 34" at about 50% off on sale. I run VS in virtual machines (one for development and one for test) and can put them side by side or use multiple desktops (my choice most of the time). I sit 27" from the monitor and the resolution is great. Very $pendy, but I spend a lot of time behind it and try to make things as comfortable as possible.

              Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                And just if you want to find out about those monitors you've recalled, just go to computer hardware store and ask a sales person about what is actually better. Also, as for me, I would choose the monitor having a valuable retina surface that protects your vision without distorting a picture. :-D But, anyway, it's actually up to you whichever monitor to purchase. Apparently these both (A) 21,5" => 102 dpi. (B) 23" => 95.8 dpi. you've listed are merely the same as far as I can understand. :) :) The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer. But, to elaborate, please specify particular models and vendors of those monitors you're about to buy. :)

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                The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer

                I think dpi (dots per Inch) is not really depended on manufacturers :confused: :doh:

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                • J Joan M

                  What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

                  www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                  The bigger monitor is better. Monitor is the device which is the most important because it is the interface to your precious eyes. Because monitors are long lasting devices you should take the best you can afford. I have my Samsung for some 6 years now. :thumbsup:

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                    Depends on how close you like the screen, both will be fine. Too big too close will hurt the eyes. My set up is a 20" on the desk about arms length away eye level about 2/3 from bottom with a 23" above and slightly behind it. Both 1920 x 1080 with extended desktop oriented to suit (i.e. move the mouse pointer past the top of the 20" to the bottom of the 23"). Also means those bits of paper on the desk are in the same line too. 20": For visual studio, and when not programming general usage (surfing, email, office etc). 23" used during intensive programming - to hold reference info (docs, searched info...) otherwise it's switched off. Being larger prefer it further back so can still see entire screen at a glance.) Yes that's my own personal preference; tried side by side (with same size screens) but found it like working in a tanning bed, harder on the eyes and actually suffered more migraines (- not fun.) (Also the screen above makes a good mirror when it's off, can see people behind me.)

                    Sin tack the any key okay

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                    Joan M
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                    Hi Lopatir, I spend a lot of hours in front of my computer every day and I would call it intensive work hours so the 23 (it seems it is not available and that I should switch to 24" instead for roughly the same cost).

                    Lopatir wrote:

                    (Also the screen above makes a good mirror when it's off, can see people behind me.)

                    :laugh: You would go for the bigger one and then put it farther which is also giving more free space on the table. :thumbsup: Thank you for your comment.

                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                    • A Arthur V Ratz

                      I would particularly prefer 1920x1080 and size of more than or equal to 27". :) Also, as for me, I would shop around and take a closer look at those brand new 4K (3840x2160) monitors, or even at 8K if they're available on sale and you can afford it :-D

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                      I will end buying two of them and place them side by side so no way I'll get two big beasts of 27 or more! :laugh: I was worried about the pixel density, but it seems that most people here thinks bigger is better keeping the same resolution so... Probably I will go this way. The problem I have is that is very difficult to see Lenovo and/or Dell displays at the typical places you can get this kind of gadgets here in Catalonia... So I'll have to get them online and therefore is really difficult to evaluate them, but based on the numbers Lenovo ThinkVision T22i-10 or T24i-10 (the T23i-10 seems not to be available) look nice and interesting. Thank you for your post and comment! :thumbsup:

                      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                        And just if you want to find out about those monitors you've recalled, just go to computer hardware store and ask a sales person about what is actually better. Also, as for me, I would choose the monitor having a valuable retina surface that protects your vision without distorting a picture. :-D But, anyway, it's actually up to you whichever monitor to purchase. Apparently these both (A) 21,5" => 102 dpi. (B) 23" => 95.8 dpi. you've listed are merely the same as far as I can understand. :) :) The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer. But, to elaborate, please specify particular models and vendors of those monitors you're about to buy. :)

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                        Hi Arthur, First of all, thank you for your post. I'm interested on: Lenovo T22i-10[^] Lenovo T24i-10[^] The datasheet of both monitors can be found here: T22i-10.pdf[^] T24i-10.pdf[^] In my case I will have two monitors placed side by side attached to a double mechanical arm that will ensure the same height on both. Thank you for giving your opinion.

                        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                          23"

                          «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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                          Thank you Bill!, it seems that at the end it will have to be 22 or 24, as the 23 option is not available. so I guess your answer would be 24... :thumbsup:

                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                            Of the 2 choices, if I couldn't compare them in a store, 23". Best case for this stuff is to measure how far you sit from things and then sit in the store at that distance to choose. FWIIW: I went from 2 ea 20" monitors side by side (extended desktop 3200 by something) to 34" at 3440x1440. Those 2 20"ers served me very well for about 8 years. Got the 34" at about 50% off on sale. I run VS in virtual machines (one for development and one for test) and can put them side by side or use multiple desktops (my choice most of the time). I sit 27" from the monitor and the resolution is great. Very $pendy, but I spend a lot of time behind it and try to make things as comfortable as possible.

                            Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                            Hi theoldfool! Thank you for your comments. I'm really used to have two monitors to program, it makes my life really easier to be able to use key shortcuts to get windows where I want (maximize two windows at the same time, one on each display, seeing a full screen video in one and then do whatever in the other one...). so I would like (at least by now to use a couple of displays side by side). My doubt was about the same resolution and the size given this will affect the pixel density and therefore the smaller the display the sharper the image. but it seems that everyone here is saying that I shouldn't worry about this and go for the bigger one. Again, thank you for your comments! :thumbsup:

                            www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                              The bigger monitor is better. Monitor is the device which is the most important because it is the interface to your precious eyes. Because monitors are long lasting devices you should take the best you can afford. I have my Samsung for some 6 years now. :thumbsup:

                              Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                              Joan M
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                              Thank you (again) KarstenK! 100% agree. Given the answers I've got, I think I'll go for the bigger one and then put it farther from me. It's not a price question... it is only a matter of being right... I can't see those monitors at the shop as here we don't have Lenovo distributors with physical shops that sell professional products so no way to see any of those displays. so T22i-10[^] or T24i-10[^] and given what everybody has said, I think I'll go for the big ones... It will be similar to what I have now but placed in a mechanical articulated arm, with led backlight and much newer so I guess that much better than my 2003 HP displays. I can't see a better display in the Lenovo web site... I hope I won't miss it and choose the right one... Thank you again.

                              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                Depends on how close you like the screen, both will be fine. Too big too close will hurt the eyes. My set up is a 20" on the desk about arms length away eye level about 2/3 from bottom with a 23" above and slightly behind it. Both 1920 x 1080 with extended desktop oriented to suit (i.e. move the mouse pointer past the top of the 20" to the bottom of the 23"). Also means those bits of paper on the desk are in the same line too. 20": For visual studio, and when not programming general usage (surfing, email, office etc). 23" used during intensive programming - to hold reference info (docs, searched info...) otherwise it's switched off. Being larger prefer it further back so can still see entire screen at a glance.) Yes that's my own personal preference; tried side by side (with same size screens) but found it like working in a tanning bed, harder on the eyes and actually suffered more migraines (- not fun.) (Also the screen above makes a good mirror when it's off, can see people behind me.)

                                Sin tack the any key okay

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                                Lopatir wrote:

                                Too big too close will hurt the eyes.

                                If your monitor hurts your eyes, you're either still using a CRT at 60Hz, or the brightness is way too high. I have a 40" 4K TV I use as a monitor, at arm's length (among others). *All* my monitors have their brightness set to 50%, at the very most - some are at 33%, others even down to 25%. I can sit in front of this 16 hours a day and my eyes don't get tired. Crank the contrast a bit to compensate if you must. Just don't set a computer monitor like you would a TV you use to watch movies.

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                                  What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

                                  www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                  Mladen Jankovic
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                                  1080? For programming? What kind of peasantry is that? :)

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                                    Hi Arthur, First of all, thank you for your post. I'm interested on: Lenovo T22i-10[^] Lenovo T24i-10[^] The datasheet of both monitors can be found here: T22i-10.pdf[^] T24i-10.pdf[^] In my case I will have two monitors placed side by side attached to a double mechanical arm that will ensure the same height on both. Thank you for giving your opinion.

                                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                    Thanks for your reply to my posts. :) It's great that you can afford both monitors. :) Dell T-series monitors is a very good choice, whereas Lenovo basically depends on a model. As for me, I would purchase Dell T-22i-10. I followed the link and review tech specs of this monitor. It's really great. :)

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                                      I will end buying two of them and place them side by side so no way I'll get two big beasts of 27 or more! :laugh: I was worried about the pixel density, but it seems that most people here thinks bigger is better keeping the same resolution so... Probably I will go this way. The problem I have is that is very difficult to see Lenovo and/or Dell displays at the typical places you can get this kind of gadgets here in Catalonia... So I'll have to get them online and therefore is really difficult to evaluate them, but based on the numbers Lenovo ThinkVision T22i-10 or T24i-10 (the T23i-10 seems not to be available) look nice and interesting. Thank you for your post and comment! :thumbsup:

                                      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                      Hi. I'm sorry for my post late because I was extremely busy yesterday (e.g. upgrading to macOS Sierra :)) so I couldn't respond in time and now it's late night at the place where I'm located in. :) And yes, you can buy the either Dell or Lenovo and try out them both. I know very little about Lenovo, *BUT* as for Dell's monitors, it's a very good choice. Particularly I use an Acer monitor, which size is of 27" inches, and I'm so much happy with it. :) It provides an undistorted colorful sharp picture and has a unique retina surface coating.

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                                        1080? For programming? What kind of peasantry is that? :)

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                                        :rolleyes: :laugh:

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                                          What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

                                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                          Rollin Shultz
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                                          I suppose I would opt for higher resolution for when I need it and change text size etc. with ctrl + scroll. I am spoiled though from using a true 4K 31" monitor and I can't imagine scaling down now. Strange thing I experienced is when I used the monitor in 3840 x 2160 mode icons and dialog boxes did not increase scale, but when I Switched to 4096 x 2160 mode, everything scaled appropriately and I find it very comfortable. With a monitor this size, I can use the single screen as two by using Window Key + left arrow and selecting the second app after that. Thank you Joan for another interesting question.

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