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    Lost User
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    There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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      There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      0x01AA wrote:

      Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not

      Uncontrolled landing ... oh wait. Probably because the drone is under nominal control.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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        Slacker007
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        I am an official bullet in the sky investigator, working in the drone section. I am an expert. Here is the deal: bullet go in sky not hit drone, fall to earth and hit Bob in eye. Hamsters get angry, and eat all the servers at Code Project. CPians around the world cry and protest. World blows up. Now, do you really want to be responsible for that?

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          0x01AA wrote:

          Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not

          Uncontrolled landing ... oh wait. Probably because the drone is under nominal control.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Lost User
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          Probably because the drone is under nominal control

          That is an Argument :thumbsup:

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            I am an official bullet in the sky investigator, working in the drone section. I am an expert. Here is the deal: bullet go in sky not hit drone, fall to earth and hit Bob in eye. Hamsters get angry, and eat all the servers at Code Project. CPians around the world cry and protest. World blows up. Now, do you really want to be responsible for that?

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            Lost User
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            Nope I don't like to be responsible to that. Just get the bullet from sky and put it to the storeroom. Thank you very much _Sir official bullet in the sky invetigator_ for your support on this :-D

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              Nope I don't like to be responsible to that. Just get the bullet from sky and put it to the storeroom. Thank you very much _Sir official bullet in the sky invetigator_ for your support on this :-D

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              Slacker007
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              Any time good citizen. That is what I am here for. :thumbsup:

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              • L Lost User

                There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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                Power Puff Boy
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                Because you're not living in Texas.

                BREAKING FAKE NEWS: Trump told the truth!

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                • L Lost User

                  There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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                  0x01AA wrote:

                  Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not

                  In the US in many municipalities it is not legal to discharge a gun in public. Quite possible that there are multiple reasons for that but certainly not knowing where the bullet will land is one. And people have died because someone shot a bullet into the air and it came down somewhere else. Also illegal to destroy others property, via any means. Additionally depending on various things the drone might have legal right to occupy that space. The bullet does not.

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                    0x01AA wrote:

                    Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not

                    In the US in many municipalities it is not legal to discharge a gun in public. Quite possible that there are multiple reasons for that but certainly not knowing where the bullet will land is one. And people have died because someone shot a bullet into the air and it came down somewhere else. Also illegal to destroy others property, via any means. Additionally depending on various things the drone might have legal right to occupy that space. The bullet does not.

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                    Additionally depending on various things the drone might have legal right to occupy that space

                    "That space" means my space. Sorry, I can't see any legal right that somebody with a drone is near my space. The difficult Thing remains, how to define "my space"! If I think about the ability of cameras....

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                      There is a drone in the sky, that is ok for me. There is also my bullet in the sky, but the drone owner thinks this is not ok; Just because their paths have crossed. Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not :confused: Officials do investigate now :laugh:

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                      Foothill
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                      If you truly want to get away with "dealing" with unwanted drones you should invest in a drone hunting eagle[^]. If you stand far enough away, they won't know that the eagle is somebody's pet and assume it was a wild bird that felt threatened. Problem solved :laugh:

                      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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                        Additionally depending on various things the drone might have legal right to occupy that space

                        "That space" means my space. Sorry, I can't see any legal right that somebody with a drone is near my space. The difficult Thing remains, how to define "my space"! If I think about the ability of cameras....

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                        0x01AA wrote:

                        "That space" means my space. Sorry, I can't see any legal right that somebody with a drone is near my space.

                        In the US your property rights end basically at 500 ft above the surface. There are no exclusions there. It is public property and regulated by the FAA. The FAA still regulates the airspace lower than that however. Even to the extent that if you wanted to build a very tall building on the land you own you would need to get permits and meet certain requirements. FAA allows and requires drones to fly at less than 400 feet. Drones are also not allowed to fly over people but there is a difference between over and around. There are specific local laws that place other limits. Because the FAA is regulating it that can be used as a defacto argument that the drones can fly. But regardless of any laws you are never allowed to take the law into your own hands. So for example you are not allowed to shoot the children that cut across your lawn every day even though they are trespassing.

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                        The difficult Thing remains, how to define "my space"! If I think about the ability of cameras....

                        No that has nothing to do with it. You have no rights. 9 Investigates lack of drone privacy rules | WSOC-TV[^] What might happen, depending where you are, is that a drone operator is breaking one or more laws. Then the police, not you, can find that person and charge them. They can also, very likely, confiscate the drone since it was used in the commission of a crime (similar to taking a car that was used to transport drugs.) Those laws are, at least now, limited to where drones are allowed to fly. Other than that there might be a civil case but it would require that you prove that some fundamental right was broken. General privacy is unlikely to apply since it would not, for example, normally apply if someone was sitting on the roof of their house and could see into your back yard. Thus same applies for a drone flying above your neighbors house and that can see into your back yard. So you would need to prove that your privacy was infringed upon (not just flying and not taking pictures but taking pictur

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                          0x01AA wrote:

                          "That space" means my space. Sorry, I can't see any legal right that somebody with a drone is near my space.

                          In the US your property rights end basically at 500 ft above the surface. There are no exclusions there. It is public property and regulated by the FAA. The FAA still regulates the airspace lower than that however. Even to the extent that if you wanted to build a very tall building on the land you own you would need to get permits and meet certain requirements. FAA allows and requires drones to fly at less than 400 feet. Drones are also not allowed to fly over people but there is a difference between over and around. There are specific local laws that place other limits. Because the FAA is regulating it that can be used as a defacto argument that the drones can fly. But regardless of any laws you are never allowed to take the law into your own hands. So for example you are not allowed to shoot the children that cut across your lawn every day even though they are trespassing.

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                          The difficult Thing remains, how to define "my space"! If I think about the ability of cameras....

                          No that has nothing to do with it. You have no rights. 9 Investigates lack of drone privacy rules | WSOC-TV[^] What might happen, depending where you are, is that a drone operator is breaking one or more laws. Then the police, not you, can find that person and charge them. They can also, very likely, confiscate the drone since it was used in the commission of a crime (similar to taking a car that was used to transport drugs.) Those laws are, at least now, limited to where drones are allowed to fly. Other than that there might be a civil case but it would require that you prove that some fundamental right was broken. General privacy is unlikely to apply since it would not, for example, normally apply if someone was sitting on the roof of their house and could see into your back yard. Thus same applies for a drone flying above your neighbors house and that can see into your back yard. So you would need to prove that your privacy was infringed upon (not just flying and not taking pictures but taking pictur

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                          Lost User
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                          Thank you for this! Bruno

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                            0x01AA wrote:

                            Why the drone is ok, but my bullet not

                            In the US in many municipalities it is not legal to discharge a gun in public. Quite possible that there are multiple reasons for that but certainly not knowing where the bullet will land is one. And people have died because someone shot a bullet into the air and it came down somewhere else. Also illegal to destroy others property, via any means. Additionally depending on various things the drone might have legal right to occupy that space. The bullet does not.

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            Many moons ago I worked in San Diego for a few months. On New Year's Eve, had a bullet go through the rear window of a cab on my way home. I guess this was caused by a similar discharge, but predated the whole drone thing in this case. Luckily, the only damage was to the cab.

                            "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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