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  • P PJ Arends

    Like Peterchen said, by buying products made in your own country, you are giving your fellow citizens work. If they are working they are paying taxes, rather than living off welfare. The same goes for shopping at Canadian owned stores instead of foreign owned ones. Shop at Rona instead of Home Depot, Zellers instead of Wal-Mart, Overwaitea instead of Safeway, etc. Everybody, regardless of which country they live in, should buy their own countries products as much as possible.


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    ](http://www.canucks.com)Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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    PJ Arends wrote: Like Peterchen said, by buying products made in your own country, you are giving your fellow citizens work. If they are working they are paying taxes, rather than living off welfare. Aren't the stores like Wal-Mart, Home Depot, and Safeway also giving fellow citizens work? How many many jobs has a US based company like Microsoft created in Canada? What about all the Asian made computer parts that are responsible for creating hardware based companies and jobs in Canada? How many jobs are created from the billions of dollars produced by tourism? How many jobs are created from the billions worth of exports that go to the US alone? And on... and on...

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      Colin Davies wrote: Like "Compulsary Seatbelt usage" kills more pedestrians !! :omg: howzat?

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      People drive less carefully, assuming the safety features will save them? :~


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        PJ Arends wrote: Everybody, regardless of which country they live in, should buy their own countries products as much as possible. I disagree. Everybody should buy the best that their money can find. Best in terms of price, quality, availability, after-sales service, etc etc. Pseudo nationalism should be outlawed.
        Regards,

        Rohit Sinha

        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
        - Mother Teresa

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        This from a guy with his country's flag waving in his sig... ;P ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:

        "When I wake up in the morning, I just can't get started until I've had that first, piping hot pot of coffee. Oh, I've tried other enemas..." Emo Phillips

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          This from a guy with his country's flag waving in his sig... ;P ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:

          "When I wake up in the morning, I just can't get started until I've had that first, piping hot pot of coffee. Oh, I've tried other enemas..." Emo Phillips

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          Rohit Sinha
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          I said pseudo nationalism. ;P By which I meant "something which looks like nationalism to those practising it, but which does more harm than good to their country".
          Regards,

          Rohit Sinha

          Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
          - Mother Teresa

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          • D David Wulff

            People drive less carefully, assuming the safety features will save them? :~


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            Isn't it funny how people get less careful about driving once they start thinking their ass is safe? This is also one of the reasons why big truck drivers often run over people or cyclists. You'll rarely see a truck collide with another. This is also the reason why drivers of Maruti never, or very rarely have an accident. Because a Maruti car is so small and so light and so fragile, you could turn it upside down with just a hard kick ( ;P ), the drivers are extra careful while driving it. Awrright, time for breakfast. Mmmm poha... :drool:
            Regards,

            Rohit Sinha

            Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
            - Mother Teresa

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            • C co7eguy

              For Canadians only: (unless you are really good at economics and want to answer anyways). How does buying Canadian products help our economy?

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              Chris Maunder
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              Money staying in your country is better then money going out of your country. I know someone in my apartment is being parochial: the smell of cooking back-bacon and maple syrup this morning was enough to make even the squirrels run for cover. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Colin Davies wrote: Like "Compulsary Seatbelt usage" kills more pedestrians !! :omg: howzat?

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                Like they others have suggested. There was a study by Peltzman in 1975 that concluded with this. People driving with seatbelts feel safer. So people with seatbelts are more likely to have accidents. However the seatbelts save drivers and wearers lives. Unfortunately a driver wearing a seatbelt provides no more protection to a pedestrian. At first the statement sounds illogical doesn't it, but on later reflection it makes sense. At least to me. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                • P PJ Arends

                  Like Peterchen said, by buying products made in your own country, you are giving your fellow citizens work. If they are working they are paying taxes, rather than living off welfare. The same goes for shopping at Canadian owned stores instead of foreign owned ones. Shop at Rona instead of Home Depot, Zellers instead of Wal-Mart, Overwaitea instead of Safeway, etc. Everybody, regardless of which country they live in, should buy their own countries products as much as possible.


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                  ](http://www.canucks.com)Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                  If we in the US followed that advice we would ruin Europe - Japan - China. Hey its starting to sound better and better. Notice I did not mention Canada - or Mexico - they really are a very minority player. We don't need them and they desperatly need us. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                    peterchen wrote: Um... money goes to canadians, rather than Rednecks. Canadian companies can pay the wages to canadian workers. Canadian workers can proudly buy more canadian products. Rednecks go on dole, and don't re-elect Bush. World sighs in relief, and stock markets stabilize. Dream on. We'uns is a gonna keep a vote'n fer the Bush famly 'til we plumb run out of 'em - than we's gonna start a vote'n fer their next a kin. Cause it's just too much fun list'n to the Europeans and Canadians a whine'n. Hell, they ain't been right bout nuttin yet - what er the odds they's right this time? ;P

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                    :laugh: You *do* deserve the gubment you have ;)


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                    • R Rohit Sinha

                      I said pseudo nationalism. ;P By which I meant "something which looks like nationalism to those practising it, but which does more harm than good to their country".
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                      - Mother Teresa

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                      Why does buying local products harm your country? it only harms the Oil barons...


                      "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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                        If we in the US followed that advice we would ruin Europe - Japan - China. Hey its starting to sound better and better. Notice I did not mention Canada - or Mexico - they really are a very minority player. We don't need them and they desperatly need us. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                        Rohit Sinha
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                        You are talking as if the US got all its money by buying things from all over the world. :| It's a two way street dude. If both sides start playing pseudo patriot, both will be affected. And if you do stop buying all things made overseas, where would you get them? Don't tell me US is self sufficient.
                        Regards,

                        Rohit Sinha

                        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                        - Mother Teresa

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                        • P peterchen

                          Why does buying local products harm your country? it only harms the Oil barons...


                          "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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                          Rohit Sinha
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                          peterchen wrote: Why does buying local products harm your country? Colin has given an excellent explanation in his reply to the person who started this thread. :)
                          Regards,

                          Rohit Sinha

                          Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                          - Mother Teresa

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                          • P PJ Arends

                            Like Peterchen said, by buying products made in your own country, you are giving your fellow citizens work. If they are working they are paying taxes, rather than living off welfare. The same goes for shopping at Canadian owned stores instead of foreign owned ones. Shop at Rona instead of Home Depot, Zellers instead of Wal-Mart, Overwaitea instead of Safeway, etc. Everybody, regardless of which country they live in, should buy their own countries products as much as possible.


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                            ](http://www.canucks.com)Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                            PJ Arends wrote: Overwaitea You guys have a store called Overwaitea? Pronounced as "Over weighta"? That rocks, got to love honesty :-D

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                              You are talking as if the US got all its money by buying things from all over the world. :| It's a two way street dude. If both sides start playing pseudo patriot, both will be affected. And if you do stop buying all things made overseas, where would you get them? Don't tell me US is self sufficient.
                              Regards,

                              Rohit Sinha

                              Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                              - Mother Teresa

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                              Richard Stringer
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                              Rohit  Sinha wrote: You are talking as if the US got all its money by buying things from all over the world. Economics is not one of your strong points is it. :) Rohit  Sinha wrote: Don't tell me US is self sufficient. Nope - but we are much more sufficient than the other major industrial nations and in a pissing contest would have a tremendous advantage. And if push came to shove we could be pretty much independant and self sufficient with the exception of a few critical raw materials that we don't have - check out WWII for example. We could bring many countries a great deal of economic hardship by just removing them from our defense umbrella and making them absorb the cost of creating and maintaining a military of sufficient strength to provide for national defense. Think for a second what it would cost Europe if we decided tomorrow to withdraw all our roops and no longer be a mamber of NATO . Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                PJ Arends wrote: Overwaitea You guys have a store called Overwaitea? Pronounced as "Over weighta"? That rocks, got to love honesty :-D

                                Paul Watson
                                Bluegrass
                                Cape Town, South Africa

                                brianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.

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                                PJ Arends
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                                http://www.overwaitea.com[^] It's "Over Weighty":-D A great name for a grocercy store


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                                  Rohit  Sinha wrote: You are talking as if the US got all its money by buying things from all over the world. Economics is not one of your strong points is it. :) Rohit  Sinha wrote: Don't tell me US is self sufficient. Nope - but we are much more sufficient than the other major industrial nations and in a pissing contest would have a tremendous advantage. And if push came to shove we could be pretty much independant and self sufficient with the exception of a few critical raw materials that we don't have - check out WWII for example. We could bring many countries a great deal of economic hardship by just removing them from our defense umbrella and making them absorb the cost of creating and maintaining a military of sufficient strength to provide for national defense. Think for a second what it would cost Europe if we decided tomorrow to withdraw all our roops and no longer be a mamber of NATO . Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                  Rohit Sinha
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                                  Richard Stringer wrote: Economics is not one of your strong points is it. ;P How did you guess? Richard Stringer wrote: Nope - but we are much more sufficient than the other major industrial nations and in a pissing contest would have a tremendous advantage. Advantage only in the short term. In the long term everyone would have to get up from their asses and work. And even in the short term I'm not as confident as you. For example, if you remember, sanctions were imposed on India in 1998-1999 when we tested our nukes. Prior to that, India was America's most favoured nation for textile (still is, I think, now that the sanctions are removed). Your diamonds were sent here to be cut. You got a lot of fruits, sugar, rice, woodwork from here. A lot of US companies had Indian programmers working for them. Etc etc (read, I can't think of more examples right now ;P ). Now when America stopped giving all this work to India, what happened? We took our wares elsewhere. No problem. As long you have something to sell, you can make money. But the US industrialists started facing problems. Labour was not cheap any more. They knew that the sanctions would be lifted someday (due to their own lobby), so they didn't want to put up local prodution units, which would cost them a lot both in the short term and long term anyway. But it's because of those sanctions (and some other things that our Finance Ministers did) that India was able to (had to?) break away from its dependence on the US economy. At a time when the US is going through a tough time, India is still going strong (relative to its own position) because we were forced to break our dependence from the US. Now we don't ride the same wave that the US does. We have a steady growth rate of over 6% and as much as 17-18% in some sectors. In the next 20 years, we are targetting to become a "developed nation" and not remain a "developing country" or a "third world nation" any more. Imagine what would happen if every country severed its ties from the US. There will be an initial period of chaos and confusion, but eventually the dust will settle down. And then? Richard Stringer wrote: Think for a second what it would cost Europe if we decided tomorrow to withdraw all our roops and no longer be a mamber of NATO . Certainly the cost to Europe would be great. But what about the US? Why do you think it's there in the first place? Charity?
                                  Regards,

                                  Rohit Sinha

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                                    Richard Stringer wrote: Economics is not one of your strong points is it. ;P How did you guess? Richard Stringer wrote: Nope - but we are much more sufficient than the other major industrial nations and in a pissing contest would have a tremendous advantage. Advantage only in the short term. In the long term everyone would have to get up from their asses and work. And even in the short term I'm not as confident as you. For example, if you remember, sanctions were imposed on India in 1998-1999 when we tested our nukes. Prior to that, India was America's most favoured nation for textile (still is, I think, now that the sanctions are removed). Your diamonds were sent here to be cut. You got a lot of fruits, sugar, rice, woodwork from here. A lot of US companies had Indian programmers working for them. Etc etc (read, I can't think of more examples right now ;P ). Now when America stopped giving all this work to India, what happened? We took our wares elsewhere. No problem. As long you have something to sell, you can make money. But the US industrialists started facing problems. Labour was not cheap any more. They knew that the sanctions would be lifted someday (due to their own lobby), so they didn't want to put up local prodution units, which would cost them a lot both in the short term and long term anyway. But it's because of those sanctions (and some other things that our Finance Ministers did) that India was able to (had to?) break away from its dependence on the US economy. At a time when the US is going through a tough time, India is still going strong (relative to its own position) because we were forced to break our dependence from the US. Now we don't ride the same wave that the US does. We have a steady growth rate of over 6% and as much as 17-18% in some sectors. In the next 20 years, we are targetting to become a "developed nation" and not remain a "developing country" or a "third world nation" any more. Imagine what would happen if every country severed its ties from the US. There will be an initial period of chaos and confusion, but eventually the dust will settle down. And then? Richard Stringer wrote: Think for a second what it would cost Europe if we decided tomorrow to withdraw all our roops and no longer be a mamber of NATO . Certainly the cost to Europe would be great. But what about the US? Why do you think it's there in the first place? Charity?
                                    Regards,

                                    Rohit Sinha

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                                    Rohit  Sinha wrote: But what about the US? Why do you think it's there in the first place? Charity? It did not start out as charity but it has evolved into that. With the fall of the USSR the need for NATO ceased to exist. Yet the US still spends 100 Billion with a B each year to sustain troops in Europe that will never be needed or used for their original purpose . There are many reasons why we don't just bring them home but one of the principle reasons has been the effect on local economies. The latest little diplomatic flap over Iraq has brought this aspect under scrutiny once again and I really expect to see the number of troops either reduced or moved in the near future. I expect that the Army units ( Infantry and Arnmor ) will be the targest while the Air Force units remain. In just Germany alone this will probably be a 30 Billion dollar hit. Of course politics being what it is who knows. But right now - as conditions stand - yes it is a form of charity. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                    • C ColinDavies

                                      Like they others have suggested. There was a study by Peltzman in 1975 that concluded with this. People driving with seatbelts feel safer. So people with seatbelts are more likely to have accidents. However the seatbelts save drivers and wearers lives. Unfortunately a driver wearing a seatbelt provides no more protection to a pedestrian. At first the statement sounds illogical doesn't it, but on later reflection it makes sense. At least to me. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                                      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                      Warning Link to the minion's animation, do not use. It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                                      This is why so many SUVs have accidents in bad weather. Driver over-confidence.

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