Other than being able to be kept in a pocket, why would anyone want a $1K iPhone instead of a notebook & pad?
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it! An old acquaintance of mine once spent a stupid amount of money on a bowl. The conversation went something like this: ME: How much????!!!! HIM: A hundred quid. ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowl????!!!! HIM: It's not just any bowl, it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! It's amazing! ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowl doesn't do? HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowls do that normal people's bowls don't do? HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function. ME: Don't all bowls combine form and function? HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's do. ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowl from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid. HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowl. ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
If you don't buy it the ghost of Steve Jobs will appear and demand an annual stipend and a large cut of all future sales of your software.
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...especially since you can get all these functionalities in a no-brand smartphone for about 1/10th of that price...
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment. $1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Really? 4 average (at best) devices that probably use at least 3 different charging cables and you need a purse or backpack to carry them all with you. Data transfer between the 4 devices is crappy (at best). And there isn't a decent camera on any of them. You really don't understand the idea of a really nice smart phone?
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Really? 4 average (at best) devices that probably use at least 3 different charging cables and you need a purse or backpack to carry them all with you. Data transfer between the 4 devices is crappy (at best). And there isn't a decent camera on any of them. You really don't understand the idea of a really nice smart phone?
really. I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
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really. I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
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charlieg wrote:
I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
:confused: But he spent $1000 on 4 devices that even together in many ways aren't as good as the phone. I'm not suggesting that a high end smart phone is the right fit for everyone but I find it amazing that so many folks here (on a tech site) are so short sighted as to not see beyond their own personal situation. Sheesh!
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Really? 4 average (at best) devices that probably use at least 3 different charging cables and you need a purse or backpack to carry them all with you. Data transfer between the 4 devices is crappy (at best). And there isn't a decent camera on any of them. You really don't understand the idea of a really nice smart phone?
Don't think a notebook and a smartphone have the same functions anyway. Spending 1K for a really nice smartphone that doesn't what you want to but, has a really good camera, awesome video quality and does everything else in the world. Good trade I'd say.
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I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment. $1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
charlieg wrote:
I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment.
<Luddite mode> OMG! Who on earth would spend almost 2 thousand dollars on a stupid laptop? Idiots, that who. I have a $150 Chromebook that does everything I need. Anybody who spends more than $500 on a laptop is just doing it as a status symbol. Pretentious pricks every one!</Luddite mode> :rolleyes:
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
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Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it! An old acquaintance of mine once spent a stupid amount of money on a bowl. The conversation went something like this: ME: How much????!!!! HIM: A hundred quid. ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowl????!!!! HIM: It's not just any bowl, it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! It's amazing! ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowl doesn't do? HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowls do that normal people's bowls don't do? HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function. ME: Don't all bowls combine form and function? HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's do. ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowl from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid. HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowl. ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
PeejayAdams wrote:
Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it!
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I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment. $1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
I like the iPhone - it works well though I think it a tad expensive. Having said that, my iPhone 6 is still going strong and I see no reason to upgrade until the phone stops working - it's over 3 years old and still works without a problem. I tried an android phone and it was ok but lacks the finesse of the apple product. Buy what suits your needs.
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Because they can. The same could said about cars, breakfast cereal, pencils,... Let 'em buy whatever they want to, if they have the cash good for them. As for me I have a $12 flip phone, and I think that was $5 too much.
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
As a Bay Area tech worker, I would totally spend that much on an smartphone. Maybe not an iPhone, but the new Pixels are coming out in October, and my current Pixel XL is at least 6 months old. Maybe you should just give one a try? They don't all cost over $1000. Get an Android, as a developer you can easily put your own apps on it. Then maybe it will make sense.
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I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment. $1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
You need a high end laptop, some would prefer having a high end smartphone instead of having a computer and/or laptop and/or tablet. Where I live only few people have computers, everyone has a smartphone. As for 1000USD, if you're rich then the price doesn't matter, else, well, bragging rights of course. Personally I'd never buy an iPhone, just too pricey, just like I'd never buy a fancy car
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Hmmm.... Did you do the math??? HP Pavillion 15 Notebook = $500 ASUS Transformer 10" Pad = $250 Samsung Phone = $40 Sony Walkman = $170 Digital Camera = $100 ------------------------------- Total = $1060 Granted you cannot do pro stuff like you do on your Laptop, but Walkman and Camera (IPhone does have a really nice camera or so I've heard). Now given that most people are not devs and don't require that extra power behind their laptop and really need a full-blown laptop. Not to mention you can put it in your pocket use for a full day on a tiny battery compared to all the batteries required by all other gadgets. With no baggage and everything fitted into one place, for most people this is just a good purchase with little fuss. Personally I'd never buy a $1000 Phone on principle. The best thing to do is wait a couple of months and all the companies will follow suite and make a competing powered phone for a little less. Wait a whole year and you can get same specs for half the price from a brand.
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Rohan Leuva wrote:
95% people use this as status symbol,to look ric
Maybe. But you are talking about the percentage of people using an IPhone. Only a very small percentage use an IPhone.
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I really wish it was a small percentage used iphones it seems the majority of my customers use them and I usually have the following conversation at least 3 or 4 times per week My phone says "Cannot get mail" is it an iphone? Yes then throw it out the window and get something that works
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
I agree with you 110%! I have exactly what you have (are you my doppelganger?) except a trak phone for emergencies only. Apple does not need my hard earned dollars!
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PeejayAdams wrote:
Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it!