Other than being able to be kept in a pocket, why would anyone want a $1K iPhone instead of a notebook & pad?
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
As a Bay Area tech worker, I would totally spend that much on an smartphone. Maybe not an iPhone, but the new Pixels are coming out in October, and my current Pixel XL is at least 6 months old. Maybe you should just give one a try? They don't all cost over $1000. Get an Android, as a developer you can easily put your own apps on it. Then maybe it will make sense.
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I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment. $1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
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You need a high end laptop, some would prefer having a high end smartphone instead of having a computer and/or laptop and/or tablet. Where I live only few people have computers, everyone has a smartphone. As for 1000USD, if you're rich then the price doesn't matter, else, well, bragging rights of course. Personally I'd never buy an iPhone, just too pricey, just like I'd never buy a fancy car
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Hmmm.... Did you do the math??? HP Pavillion 15 Notebook = $500 ASUS Transformer 10" Pad = $250 Samsung Phone = $40 Sony Walkman = $170 Digital Camera = $100 ------------------------------- Total = $1060 Granted you cannot do pro stuff like you do on your Laptop, but Walkman and Camera (IPhone does have a really nice camera or so I've heard). Now given that most people are not devs and don't require that extra power behind their laptop and really need a full-blown laptop. Not to mention you can put it in your pocket use for a full day on a tiny battery compared to all the batteries required by all other gadgets. With no baggage and everything fitted into one place, for most people this is just a good purchase with little fuss. Personally I'd never buy a $1000 Phone on principle. The best thing to do is wait a couple of months and all the companies will follow suite and make a competing powered phone for a little less. Wait a whole year and you can get same specs for half the price from a brand.
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Rohan Leuva wrote:
95% people use this as status symbol,to look ric
Maybe. But you are talking about the percentage of people using an IPhone. Only a very small percentage use an IPhone.
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I really wish it was a small percentage used iphones it seems the majority of my customers use them and I usually have the following conversation at least 3 or 4 times per week My phone says "Cannot get mail" is it an iphone? Yes then throw it out the window and get something that works
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
I agree with you 110%! I have exactly what you have (are you my doppelganger?) except a trak phone for emergencies only. Apple does not need my hard earned dollars!
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PeejayAdams wrote:
Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it!
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Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it! An old acquaintance of mine once spent a stupid amount of money on a bowl. The conversation went something like this: ME: How much????!!!! HIM: A hundred quid. ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowl????!!!! HIM: It's not just any bowl, it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! It's amazing! ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowl doesn't do? HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowls do that normal people's bowls don't do? HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function. ME: Don't all bowls combine form and function? HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's do. ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowl from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid. HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowl. ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
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Minor edits: I am in my gastroenterologist's office, inquire about replacing my touchy colon and am given a price quote: ME: How much????!!!! HIM: A hundred quid. ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowel????!!!! HIM: It's not just any bowel, it's Kelly Hoppen's bowel! It's amazing! ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowel doesn't do? HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowel! ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowels do that normal people's bowels don't do? HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function. ME: Don't all bowels combine form and function? HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's does. ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowel from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid. HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowel. ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
It is all of the "hipsters" wanting to be "cool". It is the same phenomenon as the fools riding bicycles on congested city streets, during peak traffic hours, risking their lives in the process. (btw you never see them riding when it is raining ;P ) They are like dim sheep following the latest trend and Apple marketing gurus take advantage of it gearing their ads to the hipsters. It is a clear cut case of form and appearance over functionality. To quote the sergeant from the movie "M.A.S.H", "I'm too old for this sh*t".:cool:
It's hell getting old... but it beats the alternative!
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
The Insanity is amazing. I used a TREO. back then, very expensive by comparison. But I had all my data transfer over from my palm device. It was worth it. I knew someone who spent DAYS re-entering info into their phone. If that is your argument. I get it. Time is money. My daughter can type 50 WPM on her iPhone (5s)... The samsung keyboard is not that good, I will admit it. But I have a computer when I have any amount of typing to do. I don't even like to SURF on my phone. I love a phone with all my contacts, and a chance to get to my emails (especially when Irma takes down the power, and you are traveling). The camera is nice on the phone. I don't video chat. I see a SMART phone as a useful tool. I can see spending $200 - $500 depending on usage, expecting to keep it 2-4yrs... But I agree... $1,000 on a phone... One that has KNOWN flexibility issues... (Pun Intended) Is insane. That is more than I paid for my first 2 cars (each).
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
I just got increase in my day rate as iOS dev. I used "increase in price of equipment" as one of the reasons :)
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charlieg wrote:
I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
:confused: But he spent $1000 on 4 devices that even together in many ways aren't as good as the phone. I'm not suggesting that a high end smart phone is the right fit for everyone but I find it amazing that so many folks here (on a tech site) are so short sighted as to not see beyond their own personal situation. Sheesh!
So you are saying that a 15" screen notebook or a 10" screen pad is not better than a 5" screen smartphone? I can whip out that pad pretty much anywhere, although the smartphone is a little more convenient, like when walking down the street (I would have to stop walking to effectively use the pad).
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Really? 4 average (at best) devices that probably use at least 3 different charging cables and you need a purse or backpack to carry them all with you. Data transfer between the 4 devices is crappy (at best). And there isn't a decent camera on any of them. You really don't understand the idea of a really nice smart phone?
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So you are saying that a 15" screen notebook or a 10" screen pad is not better than a 5" screen smartphone? I can whip out that pad pretty much anywhere, although the smartphone is a little more convenient, like when walking down the street (I would have to stop walking to effectively use the pad).
swampwiz wrote:
So you are saying that a 15" screen notebook or a 10" screen pad is not better than a 5" screen smartphone?
No, but it all depends on what you're doing. You may do things that warrant a 15" screen. Others may not. Again...
My Quote:
I'm not suggesting that a high end smart phone is the right fit for everyone but I find it amazing that so many folks here (on a tech site) are so short sighted as to not see beyond their own personal situation.
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swampwiz wrote:
A digital camera does not have as good of a camera as a smartphone?
- Depends on the camera and the smart phone. 2) You didn't mention a digital camera in your post when I replied. 3) That's a 5th device to carry, charge and transfer data to & from. :rolleyes:
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.) EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100. So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
Don't forget to mention the fact that Apple claims (in court) that users can't expect this to last more than a year? Plus, they are claiming that it is not a design flaw nor a manufacturing flaw. So, you could shell out for Apple's planned obsolescence OR get an Android phone at half the price that does pretty much the same things but will last for years. It's a no-brainer.
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charlieg wrote:
I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment.
<Luddite mode> OMG! Who on earth would spend almost 2 thousand dollars on a stupid laptop? Idiots, that who. I have a $150 Chromebook that does everything I need. Anybody who spends more than $500 on a laptop is just doing it as a status symbol. Pretentious pricks every one!</Luddite mode> :rolleyes:
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You need a high end laptop, some would prefer having a high end smartphone instead of having a computer and/or laptop and/or tablet. Where I live only few people have computers, everyone has a smartphone. As for 1000USD, if you're rich then the price doesn't matter, else, well, bragging rights of course. Personally I'd never buy an iPhone, just too pricey, just like I'd never buy a fancy car
So where does this leave the smartphone that can be plugged into a docking station? I buy cheap laptops because they get broken very easily. I buy old models of phones because I don't need the latest whizz bang tech. The only thing I spend a lot of money on is sitting next to me.
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