Whats the biggest change between your childhood versus your own children
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My parents grew up in one country (NL), I (and my siblings) in another (NZ), my children in yet another (SG). The world is getting smaller, and home is wherever you hang up your clothes at night.
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SG, South Georgia? Thats a hell of a remote island to bring up a family! :)
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I went to school by walking, cycling or bus. No one came by car except the odd sixth-former in their dad's car. We played in the street until it got dark, or just went off exploring the local quarries and caves, and our parents thought nothing of it. There was only one single safe-space, and that was the world. If you found parts of it unsafe or uncomfortable, then hard luck you just got on with it.
Yep, aint that the truth.
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
Not only in food, but in every aspect - and I mean every! - of our life kids are taking more part than we used to. We let our parents to decide for us on food, clothes, school, summer camp, and almost never thought to argue about them... Today - at least my kids - will not accept nothing without double-checking it, and even the kind of the cheese in the elevenses is subject to a half hour of research of the refrigerator... In most cases it is for the good - especially that I let them do the things (shopping, research and actual making, like those elevenses), so they are much more independent than I were at their age... As for the whining part over food (and others) - I do cook and prepare, but to set the table and clean vegetables, or cut the bread it is for them to do. Otherwise there is no meal and they can cry all day long... One thing I see is that I server them every morning to get to the school bus in time, they server me at weekends when no need them to rush - they are aware that they are not helping us - the parents - as we did, but they are part of our home and as they take part in the ice creme, they take part in the dish-washing after that...
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
Playing Outside, and running their mouths!
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
The biggest difference is... BEING BORED There were times of ultimate boredom (only 3 channels on TV, no computers, no video games, etc). And we'd go outside and learn things. I remember when I discovered how a magnifying glass could focus the sun's rays. Fantastic. Creation out of boredom! :) Kids now are never bored. There is always some kind of entertainment about which allows them to never have to create their own entertainment. That is what they are actually missing out on. Parents (and I am guilty too) have seen their children be bored and have provided some activity for them. In that past (at least in mine), parents did not normally provide activities for kids unless it was work. Parents were busy back then working and doing things. Now parents make it their number one thing to insure that their kids are not bored. However, kids seem to be losing their ability to be creative. Why imagine when you can watch a show, pull up youtube, download another app? :sigh:
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
The biggest change, and I would suspect it be the same for you as well, is that we make way more money than our parents did back then, thus our kids live better financially, overall. I had to eat everything on my plate, because I grew up poor. My kids are not growing up poor, so they don't have to eat everything on their plate. Although I do my best to make this happen, I don't always win. :)
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
Pom Pey wrote:
but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining
"D-a-a-a-a-a-d, I'm Hungry" "Hi hungry, I'm dad". Problem solved at the _n_th iteration.
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The biggest difference is... BEING BORED There were times of ultimate boredom (only 3 channels on TV, no computers, no video games, etc). And we'd go outside and learn things. I remember when I discovered how a magnifying glass could focus the sun's rays. Fantastic. Creation out of boredom! :) Kids now are never bored. There is always some kind of entertainment about which allows them to never have to create their own entertainment. That is what they are actually missing out on. Parents (and I am guilty too) have seen their children be bored and have provided some activity for them. In that past (at least in mine), parents did not normally provide activities for kids unless it was work. Parents were busy back then working and doing things. Now parents make it their number one thing to insure that their kids are not bored. However, kids seem to be losing their ability to be creative. Why imagine when you can watch a show, pull up youtube, download another app? :sigh:
I agree with your statements very much. :thumbsup:
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The biggest difference is... BEING BORED There were times of ultimate boredom (only 3 channels on TV, no computers, no video games, etc). And we'd go outside and learn things. I remember when I discovered how a magnifying glass could focus the sun's rays. Fantastic. Creation out of boredom! :) Kids now are never bored. There is always some kind of entertainment about which allows them to never have to create their own entertainment. That is what they are actually missing out on. Parents (and I am guilty too) have seen their children be bored and have provided some activity for them. In that past (at least in mine), parents did not normally provide activities for kids unless it was work. Parents were busy back then working and doing things. Now parents make it their number one thing to insure that their kids are not bored. However, kids seem to be losing their ability to be creative. Why imagine when you can watch a show, pull up youtube, download another app? :sigh:
raddevus wrote:
Why imagine when you can watch a show, pull up youtube, download another app?
I solved that problem - and it is very common around here... We have no TV (can watch online if approved, two hours a week), the kids have limited access to internet (only one hour a week for free (form age 8), all the other have to be justified with work from school), no smart phones or tablets (there is a laptop they share)...
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I went to school by walking, cycling or bus. No one came by car except the odd sixth-former in their dad's car. We played in the street until it got dark, or just went off exploring the local quarries and caves, and our parents thought nothing of it. There was only one single safe-space, and that was the world. If you found parts of it unsafe or uncomfortable, then hard luck you just got on with it.
Same here: about 2 1/2 miles each way, rain or shine for me. Mostly walking, as my cycle mending skills weren't that good in those days...
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The biggest change, and I would suspect it be the same for you as well, is that we make way more money than our parents did back then, thus our kids live better financially, overall. I had to eat everything on my plate, because I grew up poor. My kids are not growing up poor, so they don't have to eat everything on their plate. Although I do my best to make this happen, I don't always win. :)
Slacker007 wrote:
so they don't have to eat everything on their plate
I would say, they can chose to what to eat, but the moment they picked and put on their plate - they have to eat it...
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
I still remember When we had the whole neighborhood as the play area. we would be "inventing" games or we modify the game of cricket ( with a stick and plastic bottle) and play all day long. But now my kids need a proper game and environment.
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
Interesting question, especially omitting the tech changes, which affect just about every aspect of life. 1 - Education. I went to public schools for the most part, hated it, learned crap that was useless, unlearned it as fast as possible, and in high school I realized I didn't even have to bother learning it. Yeah, I barely graduated. :laugh: Conversely, my son went to Waldorf school K-12, learned amazing artistic skills, learned how to be a critical thinker, and had (for the most part) a much more rounded social experience. 2 - D&D. I know you said "ignoring the obvious technology changes" but I played pen & paper D&D, and it was quite fun playing online D&D with my son. Though he also glommed onto the books and did the pen & paper version too. 3 - The Cold War. I grew up thinking about (and having nightmare dreams of) nuclear war. It was different for my son. Let's hope it stays that way. 4 - Climate change / global warming. It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject, the difference is that cc/gw was not in my consciousness (or my parents) as a kid. They were and are as part of my son's. 5 - Recycling. As a kid, say what? As my son growing up, he was very aware of recycling. 6 - Health care. As a kid, you just trusted the doctor knew what he was doing. When I was a parent, the whole world of health changed, from alternative medicines (some legitimate, some obvious quackery), questioning vaccinations, etc. 7 - Food. As a kid, "organic" -- what??? My son grew up eating organic food, grass fed beef, free range chicken (really free range, not the FDA concept of prisoners with one hour a day of outside time.) That's a few.
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Ignoring the obvious technology changes. Mine is cooking different meals; when I was young I got what I was given. My dad often told me ifyou dont eat it now you'rehaving it for breakfast. I remember the same plate of liver and onions being put in front of me everyday for a week. For my kids I did Carbonara at the weekend, except the boy doesn't like sauce so I had to give him plain pasta, bacon, and cheese all seperate on the plate (not touching). I'm too soft on them but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining if I hadn't have done it.
Everything! I could play outside for hours with friends or on my own. I put thousands of miles on my bicycle, sometimes going 50 miles away from home just to see the countryside and get fresh air - often with my elder brother but later entirely by myself or with a couple of friends. My mother didn't seem to worry as long as I made it home for meals. We had no TV until I was 10 and that was rented especially to watch the moon landing. A stick made a great toy. Now it has to be something named and marketed as something "cool". D&D came along when I was in college (pen and paper only; there were only two rule books). AD&D came later. I wasn't restricted in my internet use because home computers didn't exist and neither did the internet! Computers were large things with spinning tapes and banks of flashing lights (in the movies only). Men had not yet walked on the moon but I looked forward to my chance to work on one of the many future moon-bases! I *knew* that when I grew up I would have my own flying car and/or possibly a personal jet-pack to get around in. I could go on for hundreds of pages about the differences... Was it better back then? Hmmm.... Not sure, really.
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Interesting question, especially omitting the tech changes, which affect just about every aspect of life. 1 - Education. I went to public schools for the most part, hated it, learned crap that was useless, unlearned it as fast as possible, and in high school I realized I didn't even have to bother learning it. Yeah, I barely graduated. :laugh: Conversely, my son went to Waldorf school K-12, learned amazing artistic skills, learned how to be a critical thinker, and had (for the most part) a much more rounded social experience. 2 - D&D. I know you said "ignoring the obvious technology changes" but I played pen & paper D&D, and it was quite fun playing online D&D with my son. Though he also glommed onto the books and did the pen & paper version too. 3 - The Cold War. I grew up thinking about (and having nightmare dreams of) nuclear war. It was different for my son. Let's hope it stays that way. 4 - Climate change / global warming. It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject, the difference is that cc/gw was not in my consciousness (or my parents) as a kid. They were and are as part of my son's. 5 - Recycling. As a kid, say what? As my son growing up, he was very aware of recycling. 6 - Health care. As a kid, you just trusted the doctor knew what he was doing. When I was a parent, the whole world of health changed, from alternative medicines (some legitimate, some obvious quackery), questioning vaccinations, etc. 7 - Food. As a kid, "organic" -- what??? My son grew up eating organic food, grass fed beef, free range chicken (really free range, not the FDA concept of prisoners with one hour a day of outside time.) That's a few.
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4 - Climate change / global warming. It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject, the difference is that cc/gw was not in my consciousness (or my parents) as a kid. They were and are as part of my son's.
Yeah if you ignore the toxic rivers and lakes, acid rain, over fishing and myriad other environmental problems we had (and yes, still have) back then. The reason why business like global warming is (1) it's a lot harder to follow the stench up stream to an singular source, and (2) with carbon credit bullshit not only they can buy their way out but come out looking like good world citizens. The thing is dislike (not disagree) with global climate change is that it's making a lot of other very real (and in some cases worse) invisible, OIOW: let's continue dumping shit in the sea because everybody's looking up at the sky anyway. (And when they do look down at the dying sea what's the first thing they blame? FFFS) It's the biggest ever cover up, and more than half the world has bought it. Stupid FiretrUKS.
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Interesting question, especially omitting the tech changes, which affect just about every aspect of life. 1 - Education. I went to public schools for the most part, hated it, learned crap that was useless, unlearned it as fast as possible, and in high school I realized I didn't even have to bother learning it. Yeah, I barely graduated. :laugh: Conversely, my son went to Waldorf school K-12, learned amazing artistic skills, learned how to be a critical thinker, and had (for the most part) a much more rounded social experience. 2 - D&D. I know you said "ignoring the obvious technology changes" but I played pen & paper D&D, and it was quite fun playing online D&D with my son. Though he also glommed onto the books and did the pen & paper version too. 3 - The Cold War. I grew up thinking about (and having nightmare dreams of) nuclear war. It was different for my son. Let's hope it stays that way. 4 - Climate change / global warming. It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject, the difference is that cc/gw was not in my consciousness (or my parents) as a kid. They were and are as part of my son's. 5 - Recycling. As a kid, say what? As my son growing up, he was very aware of recycling. 6 - Health care. As a kid, you just trusted the doctor knew what he was doing. When I was a parent, the whole world of health changed, from alternative medicines (some legitimate, some obvious quackery), questioning vaccinations, etc. 7 - Food. As a kid, "organic" -- what??? My son grew up eating organic food, grass fed beef, free range chicken (really free range, not the FDA concept of prisoners with one hour a day of outside time.) That's a few.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
4 - Climate change / global warming.
Growing up in the 70s, I was told I had to worry about global cooling. Then in the 80s it was acid rain. Then in the 90s it was the ozone layer. Then in the 2000s it was global warming. Then in the 2010s that was renamed to climate change, because ultimately it wouldn't get warmer *everywhere*. It also nicely encapsulates the cooling we were talking about in the 70s, thus ensuring that Al Gore can claim he was correct no matter what happens.
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It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject,
Based on what I've seen, I'd say this much is correct.
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Interesting question, especially omitting the tech changes, which affect just about every aspect of life. 1 - Education. I went to public schools for the most part, hated it, learned crap that was useless, unlearned it as fast as possible, and in high school I realized I didn't even have to bother learning it. Yeah, I barely graduated. :laugh: Conversely, my son went to Waldorf school K-12, learned amazing artistic skills, learned how to be a critical thinker, and had (for the most part) a much more rounded social experience. 2 - D&D. I know you said "ignoring the obvious technology changes" but I played pen & paper D&D, and it was quite fun playing online D&D with my son. Though he also glommed onto the books and did the pen & paper version too. 3 - The Cold War. I grew up thinking about (and having nightmare dreams of) nuclear war. It was different for my son. Let's hope it stays that way. 4 - Climate change / global warming. It doesn't matter what our views are on the subject, the difference is that cc/gw was not in my consciousness (or my parents) as a kid. They were and are as part of my son's. 5 - Recycling. As a kid, say what? As my son growing up, he was very aware of recycling. 6 - Health care. As a kid, you just trusted the doctor knew what he was doing. When I was a parent, the whole world of health changed, from alternative medicines (some legitimate, some obvious quackery), questioning vaccinations, etc. 7 - Food. As a kid, "organic" -- what??? My son grew up eating organic food, grass fed beef, free range chicken (really free range, not the FDA concept of prisoners with one hour a day of outside time.) That's a few.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Recycling. As a kid, say what?
I'd have to disagree there: we recycled bottles (1d deposit on each one!), cardboard boxes (no bags from the supermarket in those days - you packed your goods into boxes that the product arrived at the shop in).
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Everything! I could play outside for hours with friends or on my own. I put thousands of miles on my bicycle, sometimes going 50 miles away from home just to see the countryside and get fresh air - often with my elder brother but later entirely by myself or with a couple of friends. My mother didn't seem to worry as long as I made it home for meals. We had no TV until I was 10 and that was rented especially to watch the moon landing. A stick made a great toy. Now it has to be something named and marketed as something "cool". D&D came along when I was in college (pen and paper only; there were only two rule books). AD&D came later. I wasn't restricted in my internet use because home computers didn't exist and neither did the internet! Computers were large things with spinning tapes and banks of flashing lights (in the movies only). Men had not yet walked on the moon but I looked forward to my chance to work on one of the many future moon-bases! I *knew* that when I grew up I would have my own flying car and/or possibly a personal jet-pack to get around in. I could go on for hundreds of pages about the differences... Was it better back then? Hmmm.... Not sure, really.
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AD&D? We always translated that as Absolut Dumm & Dämlich. I will not translate that here, but we used to play it anyway. :-)
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oh shit I feel like Im not doing it right now. Have you got a recipie please.
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Pom Pey wrote:
but couldn't be arsed with the constant I'm hungry whining
"D-a-a-a-a-a-d, I'm Hungry" "Hi hungry, I'm dad". Problem solved at the _n_th iteration.
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