For the Climate Change Nazis
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err... we still have to take drastic steps to save humanity. And if anyone's a Nazi, it's the right wing climate change deniers who basically want to not save humanity
effayqueue wrote:
we still have to take drastic steps to save humanity
Who is capable of living in the arctic, and the sahara, in temperatures of -50 C to + 50C Just what the hell is a 2C rise going to cause us to do, put on a bit more sun cream? Wake up and smell reality for gods sake. We are the MOST adaptable animal because of our technology.
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Here you go: deaths in the UK due to fuel poverty - Google Search[^] Green levies add £110 a year to fuel bills. Green polices are killing people. Today. In the UK.
110 pounds a year? That does not seem extreme. And I am pretty sure there is fuel poverty without that extra fee, particularly since UK spends millions to help those people.
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Nazis? What makes you relate climate alarmists to nazis. Please explain. I never saw climate scientists kill 6 million jews or ram a car into a climate change deniers crowd.
Le centriste wrote:
I never saw climate scientists kill 6 million jews or ram a car into a climate change deniers crowd.
Maybe you are not looking hard enough. :-D
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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110 pounds a year? That does not seem extreme. And I am pretty sure there is fuel poverty without that extra fee, particularly since UK spends millions to help those people.
Poor people find the £10 a month hard to find, so they turn the heating down, move into one room in their flats. The incidence of respiratory diseases is increasing and is costing our NHS a lot of money. Green policies are killing people. Right now. In europe. All to save some other people who *might* be affected in 50 years. Its a disgrace. A foul and nasty disgrace.
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Humanity has proven time and again that they don't want to be saved. If/when they have REAL science to support their panic, I'll listen. But the current climate fraud is being propped up by sh|t they simply made up.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Humanity has proven time and again that they don't want to be saved.
Aha! You've finally slipped up, and revealed that you're either an alien or a robot. Probably one of those gun-slinging robots from Westworld. :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Humanity has proven time and again that they don't want to be saved. If/when they have REAL science to support their panic, I'll listen. But the current climate fraud is being propped up by sh|t they simply made up.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Humanity has proven time and again that they don't want to be saved.
With you on this one.. the root of all our problems is overpopulation of the planet. How anyone thought we could take our population from 1 billion to almost 8 billion in just over a century without any consequences, I have no idea.. However, it's still increasing and will continue until some kind of disaster (from our perspective) takes care of things. We're a pretty dumb species.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Poor people find the £10 a month hard to find, so they turn the heating down, move into one room in their flats. The incidence of respiratory diseases is increasing and is costing our NHS a lot of money. Green policies are killing people. Right now. In europe. All to save some other people who *might* be affected in 50 years. Its a disgrace. A foul and nasty disgrace.
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Poor people find the £10 a month hard to find, so they turn the heating down, move into one room in their flats. The incidence of respiratory diseases is increasing and is costing our NHS a lot of money. Green policies are killing people. Right now. In europe. All to save some other people who *might* be affected in 50 years. Its a disgrace. A foul and nasty disgrace.
Stop blaming a petty green fee for the death of people. Without that fee, people would be dying of respiratory diseases anyway. There is no direct cause.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Humanity has proven time and again that they don't want to be saved.
With you on this one.. the root of all our problems is overpopulation of the planet. How anyone thought we could take our population from 1 billion to almost 8 billion in just over a century without any consequences, I have no idea.. However, it's still increasing and will continue until some kind of disaster (from our perspective) takes care of things. We're a pretty dumb species.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels. In 20 years the worlds population will decline. By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
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Stop blaming a petty green fee for the death of people. Without that fee, people would be dying of respiratory diseases anyway. There is no direct cause.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Britain has some of the oldest housing in Europe. It needs a lot of heating. Without it it gets damp. Quickly. Mold grows, peoples lungs get infected. They die.
I don't think 10 pounds a month make a lot of difference.
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".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013"Weather different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Stocks different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Moar people fleeing their country then predicted; hoax unraveling."
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels. In 20 years the worlds population will decline. By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels.
Yeah, you've made that argument before, here are the actual figures.. - [World Population Growth - Our World in Data](https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth/) It's a nice sounding argument to try and distract from actually doing anything about the problem (and it is a big, big problem).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
In 20 years the worlds population will decline.
Yes, and everyone will be free from work, food will be plentiful, people will all get on, la-de-dah.. Meanwhile, I'm going to forecast the price of gold for the next 20 years (something much easier to predict than human behaviour)..
Munchies_Matt wrote:
By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Termites actually have very little impact on the world on a global scale. Pretty much everything termites do is either neutral or beneficial to their environment. Pretty much everything we do is detrimental. And talking of termites, just bear in mind that when the population of any species gets out of control, there's always a wild counter-effect in nature that brings things back into balance. If you think we're somehow excluded from that, you're very much mistaken.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels.
Yeah, you've made that argument before, here are the actual figures.. - [World Population Growth - Our World in Data](https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth/) It's a nice sounding argument to try and distract from actually doing anything about the problem (and it is a big, big problem).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
In 20 years the worlds population will decline.
Yes, and everyone will be free from work, food will be plentiful, people will all get on, la-de-dah.. Meanwhile, I'm going to forecast the price of gold for the next 20 years (something much easier to predict than human behaviour)..
Munchies_Matt wrote:
By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Termites actually have very little impact on the world on a global scale. Pretty much everything termites do is either neutral or beneficial to their environment. Pretty much everything we do is detrimental. And talking of termites, just bear in mind that when the population of any species gets out of control, there's always a wild counter-effect in nature that brings things back into balance. If you think we're somehow excluded from that, you're very much mistaken.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
you've made that argument before
Because it is a fact: [^] Your link: "200 years ago " Yes, we know what happened in the past, my data shows what is happening today, and the logical affect that will have in 20 years is to start a leveling off of population. The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds | NASA[^] So in fact the future looks very rosy indeed.
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"Weather different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Stocks different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Moar people fleeing their country then predicted; hoax unraveling."
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".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Brent Jenkins wrote:
you've made that argument before
Because it is a fact: [^] Your link: "200 years ago " Yes, we know what happened in the past, my data shows what is happening today, and the logical affect that will have in 20 years is to start a leveling off of population. The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds | NASA[^] So in fact the future looks very rosy indeed.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s:
Sounds lovely.. I guess that's why we're so happy with the increasing population here in Britain? And why people in the world have never been so happy.. "Childish" is not accepting a problem that can clearly be seen.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s:
Sounds lovely.. I guess that's why we're so happy with the increasing population here in Britain? And why people in the world have never been so happy.. "Childish" is not accepting a problem that can clearly be seen.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Population increase in Britain is due entirely to immigration. Native birth rate is below maintenance.
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Population increase in Britain is due entirely to immigration. Native birth rate is below maintenance.
Population across the planet is increasing, as shown in the charts in the previous links. Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Population across the planet is increasing, as shown in the charts in the previous links. Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Yes, it is increasing now, but in 20 years it will level off. Mass migration is a result of war, famine, repression, and a desire to make a better life in the west. Why would the migrants go from a less populated country to one that is more populated if overpopulation was a motivating factor? Clearly it isnt.
