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    With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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      With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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        With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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          With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't?

          [This](https://askgramps.org/files/2016/06/pen-and-paper.jpg) ;)

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            Good one.

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              The Cloud: centralised computing rebooted.

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              Yeah, I can't believe that one didn't come to mind. To us old farts the Cloud really means "someone else just does it for you... with VMs and a web interface."

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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't?

                [This](https://askgramps.org/files/2016/06/pen-and-paper.jpg) ;)

                Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                :rolleyes:

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                  With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                    With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                    Absolutely! I didn't realise until recently that NoSQL and document-oriented database systems Like MongoDB are based on pre-relational database systems. As for XML it reminds me a bit of my first IT job as a COBOL programmer in 1989, although the analogy is more with regards to the set up required in order to write a few lines of logic. The actual code that contained the logic was perhaps only ten lines but the code to define the report and set everything up could easily span 300+ lines.

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                      XAML comes to mind.... but then again, this really should not be surprising. The industry tends to burn out the veterans, so the noobs get to learn all of our mistakes again :)

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                        Python == DOS BASIC

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                          With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                          The More Things Change - bitquabit[^]

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                            ASP.NET MVC's introduction in 2010 was just a rehash of Classic ASP with more bells & whistles... Besides, the entire framework already existed in .NET form with The Castle Project's, MonoRails...

                            Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                              Absolutely! I didn't realise until recently that NoSQL and document-oriented database systems Like MongoDB are based on pre-relational database systems. As for XML it reminds me a bit of my first IT job as a COBOL programmer in 1989, although the analogy is more with regards to the set up required in order to write a few lines of logic. The actual code that contained the logic was perhaps only ten lines but the code to define the report and set everything up could easily span 300+ lines.

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                              That is what I have been saying for years. I started in the profession in 1974...

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't?

                                [This](https://askgramps.org/files/2016/06/pen-and-paper.jpg) ;)

                                Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                Ah yes, the low bandwidth non-volatile variable writability storage medium once used by the Ancients. Interesting bit of trivia, it was originally designed to be written to using a voice to text slave device using a an amusingly termed process called 'dick-tation'.

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                                  With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                                  Are not most data centric websites just another form of green screen? :~


                                  Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                    With all this talk about Docker and how containers are the future, etc. I can't help but think, Macs have been doing this for decades now (in a rudimentary way) with their apps. Everything is always bundled into one file. I mean everything. To "uninstall" an app, you simply delete its file. Boom. Done. The longer you are in the industry, the more you see things come back around that's already been around in one shape or another (looking at you XML). And instead of getting surprised and excited it's more like "well, that figures." And I can't help but think this is what getting old feels like. Like you've seen it all before. It's the same old tune, but in a different song. Does anyone else know of good examples of rehashed ideas we just assume are novel in tech when they aren't? Note: I do not hate PCs. And, I'm only going to reply to smart replies, not the kiddie Mac bashing replies that's based on zero education and extreme prejudice.

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                                    Windows -- C-style DLLs (no registartion, use PATH var to find them) were incarnated into the .Net assembly DLLs. Dror

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                                      Yeah, I can't believe that one didn't come to mind. To us old farts the Cloud really means "someone else just does it for you... with VMs and a web interface."

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                                      Yep - the cloud is just mainframes redux.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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