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  • A Andy Lanng

    Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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    Wearwolf
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    I believe it's correct because it's a part of a noun phrase. "Those who code" is the object of the sentence but "who" isn't the object of the phrase.

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    • J Jim_Snyder

      You mean "Thou"? :laugh:

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      R Erasmus
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      Keeping with the subject :-P

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      • R R Erasmus

        Keeping with the subject :-P

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        Jim_Snyder
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        Yep, a slight path alteration, but not recursive.

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        • C ClockMeister

          Nope, the grammar is correct! (for those who [write] code). You would *not* say "for those whom write code".

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          Jim_Snyder
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          Not unless you were a stuffy know-it-all!

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          • J Jim_Snyder

            Not unless you were a stuffy know-it-all!

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            ClockMeister
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            LOL! Funny the stuff we get into arguments about in these threads, eh? ;-)

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            • C ClockMeister

              LOL! Funny the stuff we get into arguments about in these threads, eh? ;-)

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              Jim_Snyder
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              Actually, I think most of us need a chuckle and the more preposterous something is, the better.

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              • A Andy Lanng

                Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                Kirill Illenseer
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                It's right here, "Who code" is a compound noun in itself. The people who code. "Whom" would be right in "For whom? Well, for those who code!"

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                • Q qmartens

                  AFAIK, the only way to correctly determine when to who vs. whom, is to use grammar rules that don't really exist in the English language (unless you're a linguist). Native German speakers get this right by intuition, because German does have those rules. It boils down to whether the pronoun refers to the accusative object ('who'), or the dative object ('whom'). Here's a really bad analogy for us geeky types: Using the C++ or C# member access operators, . is 'who', and -> is 'whom'. A better example would be the sentence "Who did what to whom?". Commence flame wars re: ...but isn't "Who" in that example actually the subject (in the grammatical sense)?

                  Eagles my fly, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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                  GuyThiebaut
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                  qmartens wrote:

                  better example would be the sentence "Who did what to whom?"

                  :thumbsup: I like that as it fits in with my "he did that to him" rule.

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                  • K Kirill Illenseer

                    It's right here, "Who code" is a compound noun in itself. The people who code. "Whom" would be right in "For whom? Well, for those who code!"

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                    Herbie Mountjoy
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                    Slow down! i'm still trying to get my head round Python. I haven't got time to learn English as well.

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                    • H Herbie Mountjoy

                      Slow down! i'm still trying to get my head round Python. I haven't got time to learn English as well.

                      We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                      Jim_Snyder
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                      Did Horton chime in? He only hears 'who'...

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                      • H Herbie Mountjoy

                        Slow down! i'm still trying to get my head round Python. I haven't got time to learn English as well.

                        We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                        Kirill Illenseer
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                        Most of Python's syntax is English-like. Which reminds me, I've read a blog post a while ago, from a Russian dude who learned programming before he learned English so both he and his teacher just memorized "print" as a meaningless token instead of English-like term "Well, this might output something".

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