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  • W W Balboos GHB

    So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

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      Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

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      Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

      Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

      Doing that legally needs work visas not tourist ones. If you try flying under the radar you're only 1 ooops from being deported or jailed. :doh:

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        Might be time to look into a company doing short term contracting.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Might be time to look into a company doing short term contracting.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          W Balboos GHB
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          Well - I already did the contractor thing - most of the time with my current employer. If looking into work, I was thinking about trying to get involved in teaching some of the CED courses they give in the community.   Pay isn't that great, but it it could be stimulating. Since all of the students are paying because they want to learn it shouldn't be bad. Or (although I wouldn't be the first CP'er to do so) I could get into local politics.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Marc Clifton
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            W∴ Balboos wrote:

            do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?

            Jump. It sounds like you'll be able to enjoy the abyss with a nice parachute. ;)

            Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              I agree with DEJ. Went through that some 25 years ago. Took it. Contracted to an outfit setting up (wired) networks and systems at trade shows, Comdex, Internet World (big in those days) as well as a lot of small shows. Did some programming for support stuff, lead generation, etc. mostly scripts. Slung 17-20" CRT monitors, argued with W95, OS/2 and such. Traveled the US, took time to see stuff after shows packed up. Paid my way (including MRS) plus some spending money. Did that for about 5 years. Later hooked up with a couple of outfits that I could support remotely using VPN to hardware firewalls. If nothing else was available, I used a MiFi. Quit one, still do the other. Written lots of small programs/scripts to support them. One failed adventure into a retail program (earned almost $.05 an hour from sales). BEWARE: Some companies will offer to hire you "part time". That, to me, should be 20 hours a week or so. For them, it was 60 hours a week for 4 weeks. Maybe. Make sure you retire TO something, not FROM something. Watching the grass grow in the back yard sucks. :)

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Well you got 2 choices, 1. work at a well paid job and save lots for your dreams - only to find despite having the funds you're too old and decrepit to do those things (for instance, like walk the great wall) 2. seeing as you're OK enough to retire do them now while you can still walk. You mention you would find something to go back to, even if at the community centre teaching for less money - you can't take it with you so if less money is still enough then great, so that's what you do when you get back. As others also mentioned never retire to 'do nothing,' it's 100% a sure way to shorten your life. (seen it with my own eyes - my parents, their friends, my friends parents... way too many times to believe it's a coincidence).

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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?

                  Jump. It sounds like you'll be able to enjoy the abyss with a nice parachute. ;)

                  Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  Yeah - in a sense my considering it means I think the parachute's in good shape. It's so tempting - the paranoia is maintained in that, at my age, re-employment as a developer is an unlikely possibility. If I make it through into 2018, I'd like to put in at least the first 1/3 year so I have what Social Security refers to as 'substantial income'. Social Security, for that matter, is still off in the future a bit. Yet - as you observed - I sort of defined the situation with a built-in answer.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Well you got 2 choices, 1. work at a well paid job and save lots for your dreams - only to find despite having the funds you're too old and decrepit to do those things (for instance, like walk the great wall) 2. seeing as you're OK enough to retire do them now while you can still walk. You mention you would find something to go back to, even if at the community centre teaching for less money - you can't take it with you so if less money is still enough then great, so that's what you do when you get back. As others also mentioned never retire to 'do nothing,' it's 100% a sure way to shorten your life. (seen it with my own eyes - my parents, their friends, my friends parents... way too many times to believe it's a coincidence).

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    That's paranoia #2 - keeping my mind stimulated. I've actually started a list of what I'd be doing (much more positive than a bucket list). Practicality is part of it. For example - the teaching - it would not surprise me if the only people who get those gigs are connected (which I am not). The list serves the duel purpose of being an eye-opener to what do I do with myself and simultaneously a series of fall-back plans. Of the later, there must be sufficient items purely in my own control to prevent that lethal disaster.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      Well - I already did the contractor thing - most of the time with my current employer. If looking into work, I was thinking about trying to get involved in teaching some of the CED courses they give in the community.   Pay isn't that great, but it it could be stimulating. Since all of the students are paying because they want to learn it shouldn't be bad. Or (although I wouldn't be the first CP'er to do so) I could get into local politics.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Well, if money is not an issue then teaching is a viable option. They do get lots of time off. Do you have the credentials to teach at the university level or were you thinking about teaching at a technical school?

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                        Well, if money is not an issue then teaching is a viable option. They do get lots of time off. Do you have the credentials to teach at the university level or were you thinking about teaching at a technical school?

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        I've the credential to teach Chemistry at the university level - but not a likely option. The plan was relaxing CED courses - not a big money maker. A thing to do to keep busy that'd stimulate keeping up with the field(s).

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • W W Balboos GHB

                          So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          I currently take 2 months unpaid leave a year, and it is still not enough for the things I need to do.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          • W W Balboos GHB

                            I've the credential to teach Chemistry at the university level - but not a likely option. The plan was relaxing CED courses - not a big money maker. A thing to do to keep busy that'd stimulate keeping up with the field(s).

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            Well, if you don't mind moving to small town U.S.A.†, there are dozens of small universities that would hire you to teach computer science even with the chemistry background. Depending on the size, you might be able to do both. At the university here, one of my computer science professors also taught physics. The smaller universities are a little more lenient with professors crossing curriculum boundaries since they lack the staff. †population < 150K

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                              Well, if you don't mind moving to small town U.S.A.†, there are dozens of small universities that would hire you to teach computer science even with the chemistry background. Depending on the size, you might be able to do both. At the university here, one of my computer science professors also taught physics. The smaller universities are a little more lenient with professors crossing curriculum boundaries since they lack the staff. †population < 150K

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              Foothill wrote:

                              moving to small town U.S.A.

                              Been there (eleven years worth).     Absolutely no way!

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Foothill wrote:

                                moving to small town U.S.A.

                                Been there (eleven years worth).     Absolutely no way!

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Foothill
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                                I can understand. The internet out there is sort of crappy. It's pretty quick here but I've been waiting years for Google to expand their fiber network to here so that I can get off of cable and jump up to 750MBS+ and say good-bye to HD video buffering.

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Jump now. Life is too unpredictable and can be cut short at any time.

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                                  eventual social security

                                  :laugh: :laugh: When did you become an optimist?

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                                  • F Foothill

                                    I can understand. The internet out there is sort of crappy. It's pretty quick here but I've been waiting years for Google to expand their fiber network to here so that I can get off of cable and jump up to 750MBS+ and say good-bye to HD video buffering.

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                                    W Balboos GHB
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                                    No - you misunderstand - it's not the internet - if it were the internet, one could presume that even a small college/university would cause installation of decent speed. At home, I'm content with 25Mb - and it's more than I ever use. It's the small town. The lifestyle, the people, the whole hellish snake pit. If you've grown up that way it's probably wonderful. To me, a nightmare.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    • D Dan Neely

                                      Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                                      Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

                                      Doing that legally needs work visas not tourist ones. If you try flying under the radar you're only 1 ooops from being deported or jailed. :doh:

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      Duncan Edwards Jones
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                                      Man - not being a member of a single market (with intrinsic freedom of movement) is a pain. OK - step 1 - become European.

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                                      • W W Balboos GHB

                                        So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        Talk to your company. See if they will let you go part time, take sabbaticals. If you are useful, they will say yes. If not, they will tell you something else, unrepeatable in the Lounge. :)

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                                          No - you misunderstand - it's not the internet - if it were the internet, one could presume that even a small college/university would cause installation of decent speed. At home, I'm content with 25Mb - and it's more than I ever use. It's the small town. The lifestyle, the people, the whole hellish snake pit. If you've grown up that way it's probably wonderful. To me, a nightmare.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          Foothill
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                                          For the sake of clarity, what do you consider a small town. For me, I have classified a small town as between 100 and 150 thousand ever since I lived in Chicago and San Diego.

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