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  • W W Balboos GHB

    Foothill wrote:

    moving to small town U.S.A.

    Been there (eleven years worth).     Absolutely no way!

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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    Foothill
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    I can understand. The internet out there is sort of crappy. It's pretty quick here but I've been waiting years for Google to expand their fiber network to here so that I can get off of cable and jump up to 750MBS+ and say good-bye to HD video buffering.

    if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Lost User
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      Jump now. Life is too unpredictable and can be cut short at any time.

      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      eventual social security

      :laugh: :laugh: When did you become an optimist?

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      • F Foothill

        I can understand. The internet out there is sort of crappy. It's pretty quick here but I've been waiting years for Google to expand their fiber network to here so that I can get off of cable and jump up to 750MBS+ and say good-bye to HD video buffering.

        if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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        W Balboos GHB
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        No - you misunderstand - it's not the internet - if it were the internet, one could presume that even a small college/university would cause installation of decent speed. At home, I'm content with 25Mb - and it's more than I ever use. It's the small town. The lifestyle, the people, the whole hellish snake pit. If you've grown up that way it's probably wonderful. To me, a nightmare.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • D Dan Neely

          Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

          Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

          Doing that legally needs work visas not tourist ones. If you try flying under the radar you're only 1 ooops from being deported or jailed. :doh:

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Duncan Edwards Jones
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          Man - not being a member of a single market (with intrinsic freedom of movement) is a pain. OK - step 1 - become European.

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Talk to your company. See if they will let you go part time, take sabbaticals. If you are useful, they will say yes. If not, they will tell you something else, unrepeatable in the Lounge. :)

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              No - you misunderstand - it's not the internet - if it were the internet, one could presume that even a small college/university would cause installation of decent speed. At home, I'm content with 25Mb - and it's more than I ever use. It's the small town. The lifestyle, the people, the whole hellish snake pit. If you've grown up that way it's probably wonderful. To me, a nightmare.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Foothill
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              For the sake of clarity, what do you consider a small town. For me, I have classified a small town as between 100 and 150 thousand ever since I lived in Chicago and San Diego.

              if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Talk to your company. See if they will let you go part time, take sabbaticals. If you are useful, they will say yes. If not, they will tell you something else, unrepeatable in the Lounge. :)

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                W Balboos GHB
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                That option would likely be in their interest.   I generously comment my code but pretty much half the business is running on frameworks I built. They'll run a long time - but if they want to make changes - good luck to that. If I go that route and they say 'no', I'm a rather expensive per diem contractor. But, then, that's if they perceive me as useful. The place has changed over the years, especially recently, and "vision" isn't what I'd call a specialty.

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • F Foothill

                  For the sake of clarity, what do you consider a small town. For me, I have classified a small town as between 100 and 150 thousand ever since I lived in Chicago and San Diego.

                  if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  No number in particular. I put down five years in Chicago - what I referred to, then, as "a small town of two million". It's all a matter of cultural norms.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • W W Balboos GHB

                    That option would likely be in their interest.   I generously comment my code but pretty much half the business is running on frameworks I built. They'll run a long time - but if they want to make changes - good luck to that. If I go that route and they say 'no', I'm a rather expensive per diem contractor. But, then, that's if they perceive me as useful. The place has changed over the years, especially recently, and "vision" isn't what I'd call a specialty.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    You never know how they will respond, but letting you go part time saves them money, so it is attractive, provided they get the work done when they need it. And as you know, as a permie, a lot of time is spent doing not much. Part time you would be more focused, like a contractor, on problem tasks. So ask them, sounds like win win to me.

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      No number in particular. I put down five years in Chicago - what I referred to, then, as "a small town of two million". It's all a matter of cultural norms.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Foothill
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                      Not going to argue with that. I don't much care for the predominant cultural norms of my current area of residence but I don't exactly have the ability to pick up and leave. There's a lot of good people here but the religious crusader minority has borrowed from the NRA playbook and is very politically active while the rest of us are too busy working to even follow what's going on in the state legislature. So, we get a lot of laws passed that are not supported by the silent majority so we have shifted to a revolving door legislature for the last couple of elections.

                      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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                      • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                        Man - not being a member of a single market (with intrinsic freedom of movement) is a pain. OK - step 1 - become European.

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                        Dan Neely
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                        moving around like that, how long do you get before you're expected to register locally for tax purposes? That could turn into a cluster :elephant: fast.

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          moving around like that, how long do you get before you're expected to register locally for tax purposes? That could turn into a cluster :elephant: fast.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          Duncan Edwards Jones
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                          You get taxed in whatever jurisdiction your employer is actually paying your salary. (For freelancers you'd need to register as soon as you got your first gig)

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                          • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                            You get taxed in whatever jurisdiction your employer is actually paying your salary. (For freelancers you'd need to register as soon as you got your first gig)

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                            Dan Neely
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                            In that case I hope your politicians don't listen to the good idea fairy and decide to steal the idiotic beggar they neighbor jocktax* the loons here came up with. I haven't heard of them trying to go after normal business travelers yet; but given the combination of greed and stupid involved in politics assume it's only a matter of time. X| * a few years ago one of the towns hosting a major sports area decided that the visiting sports team should pay local income taxes because they were working in their jurisdiction for the game. It gave them a very short term windfall, which lasted only as long as it took every other city hosting a team to do the same thing either due to their own greed (early adopters) or just to replace the taxes they were losing to everyone else (late teams). In the end the only winners were the accountants who got to charge everyone in the team down to the waterboy making minimum wage $1000ish to fill out a dozen or more sets of state and local taxes. :doh: :doh:

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              H Brydon
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                              I'm on the other side of that decision. I got retired in 2010 with the golden handshake and am retired now with a pension. I did some contract work (with the company and otherwise) and did some further college work. Fully retired and goofing off now (except for occasional FOSS stuff). Recommendations: - Make sure that you have your ducks lined up for medical coverage for yourself and whomever is a dependent of yours. In the US, if you get any kind of retiree medical coverage from the company, you can drop existing dependents (eg. college students) but not make any other changes. Before retiring, I thought that the Obamacare yada yada was just a bunch of political noise. I retired, then got married, then discovered I couldn't cover my new wife, then discovered how truly remarkably awful is this Obamacare thing. Trust me, medical coverage is a major point. - Make sure that you can truly live on your nest egg plus benefits. Don't forget the implications of a bad health event, divorce or an unanticipated legal issue. Before and after social security. - Make sure that your skills are saleable if you have to go back to work. - If you see a downturn in your company's business, they will likely cut back personnel, with the "old guys" first. You will get $$$ incentives and extra bennies to leave on their schedule. You won't get this if you leave on your schedule. It might pay greatly to wait a couple of years (and this will be in your favor for social security benefits). So, I did an approximation to all of the above and am now enjoying the best years of my life. Just what retirement is supposed to be. TADA!

                              I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                              • W W Balboos GHB

                                No number in particular. I put down five years in Chicago - what I referred to, then, as "a small town of two million". It's all a matter of cultural norms.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Jim_Snyder
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                                Columbus is referred to as a "city in the corn field" and there are still corn fields within the outer belt including one about 1000 yards from my desk. Chicago is also called the "windy city" due to the democrat political machine.

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                                  Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

                                  Doing that legally needs work visas not tourist ones. If you try flying under the radar you're only 1 ooops from being deported or jailed. :doh:

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  Blue Iguana
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                                  Not to mention, it is pretty difficult to find an employer that will allow remote work in another country. I tried for years and finally gave up and moved back to the US.

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    There are other employers out there. Make your (apparent) desire to be part-time known, and a part of any negotiation (including with your current employer). You: "Hey, I don't need the money, but I enjoy the work and it keeps me busy. How about if we work a deal where I come in four days/week. I'm willing to give up x% of my salary (more than 20), so you're getting a break for letting me do this." Them: "No, we're dumb, unimaginative management. Our heads would explode if we were to consider anything outside the normal bounds." You: "OK. How about I come in zero hours per week, instead?" I'm in the same kind of boat, I think the first part of next year we will have this kind of conversation. I also need to start researching whether there are just the kind of "help out" gigs. Maybe some volunteer work, or the kind of maintenance that needs to be done but organizations never have time to do them. Low stress, where I could do them to keep busy, take a low rate, and both of us get something out of the deal.

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                                      Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                                      Find a company that will let you work remotely, travel the world and hotdesk. (Most cities in the world now have daily/weekly hotdesk spaces to rent)

                                      Doing that legally needs work visas not tourist ones. If you try flying under the radar you're only 1 ooops from being deported or jailed. :doh:

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      Plus finding that company may take longer than the remainder of your lifespan.

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                                      • W W Balboos GHB

                                        So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        SeattleC
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                                        Once you retire, it's hard to get back in. Be sure you are sure before quitting.

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          So - I've spent years managing my money, along with a like-minded and cooperative Mrs. Between that and some pensions, eventual social security, and savings, I can retire whenever I want. Point:   I still have lots of fun coding and seeing the software being used year after year. I am, as I often put it, paid to play. Spent a whole lifetime doing that. Counterpoint: I'm healthy enough now to get lots of traveling in, but am severely limited by employer vacation limits (unpaid leave is not gladly given). I have lots of things I need to get done that have been put off too long. So, the question is "what am I waiting for?", or perhaps "do I wish to jump headlong into the abyss?"

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          Kirk 10389821
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                                          To be clear, you are saying you can now easily live off of the return you get every year, without touching your nest egg? If that stopped, do you have enough time left? (the two biggest mistakes I have seen, I will assume you thought it through, with REAL inflation numbers, based on Energy and Food prices as true Inflation). Then... I would approach your current employer, and negotiate the work schedule/vacation that you want. I would gladly cut an employees salary in 1/2, and cut them down to 6 months, etc. To keep their knowledge base around. Heck, depending on the company size, etc, I would work with you to get you what you want, while keeping your expertise at our fingertips. Below 1 day/week, I am not sure it has that value. And it could be incremental over the next 5 years or so. But, I have seen MANY employers who cannot fathom a special deal. All employees are EQUAL and must be treated as such, no favors. I watched people QUIT because they could not attend a NEEDED WEEKLY AA course because it happened in the AM, where this person felt comfortable, and the company played hard ball... (use vacation first (scheduled), then sick time, then PTO, etc. etc.) so, it depends. It never hurts to ask when you are in the position that their firing you ONLY helps you decide. LOL

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