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    From today’s daily news: Microsoft pleads for more enterprise Windows 10 Insider recruits[^] Well, I did opt in with 1 of my home PC’s, the one with no important programs / data. Last Friday I was the lucky one to receive the fall update, nice, from 20:00 till 01:00 the computer was totally unusable. At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7, have to upgrade someday. This “nice” update experience really made me doubt about Windows 10 (as a service, if I deliver such service I can look for another job) in our production environment. Twice a year a reimage of all physical PC’s, we don’t have the resources. Citrix in a box, we have some experience but doesn’t exist anymore. Terminal server (remote apps), have some nice and more important, less nice experience. Maybe just go back to Windows XP on a segmented network with a nice firewall, even Linux comes to mind. Porting our software to Linux will cost a huge amount of resources, which we don’t have. Don’t know which way Microsoft Windows 10 is going but it looks like “from us”, not “towards us” Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

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      From today’s daily news: Microsoft pleads for more enterprise Windows 10 Insider recruits[^] Well, I did opt in with 1 of my home PC’s, the one with no important programs / data. Last Friday I was the lucky one to receive the fall update, nice, from 20:00 till 01:00 the computer was totally unusable. At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7, have to upgrade someday. This “nice” update experience really made me doubt about Windows 10 (as a service, if I deliver such service I can look for another job) in our production environment. Twice a year a reimage of all physical PC’s, we don’t have the resources. Citrix in a box, we have some experience but doesn’t exist anymore. Terminal server (remote apps), have some nice and more important, less nice experience. Maybe just go back to Windows XP on a segmented network with a nice firewall, even Linux comes to mind. Porting our software to Linux will cost a huge amount of resources, which we don’t have. Don’t know which way Microsoft Windows 10 is going but it looks like “from us”, not “towards us” Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

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      The problem for me is that I used to be an MS beta tester in the DOS days (when they called it "beta testing" rather than "RTM") and the overwhelming feeling you got was "screw you". Find a problem - who cares? Here's some software that not only doesn't fix it it breaks other stuff. I gave up, because it was all hassle without reward. And there doesn't appear to have been any change ...

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        From today’s daily news: Microsoft pleads for more enterprise Windows 10 Insider recruits[^] Well, I did opt in with 1 of my home PC’s, the one with no important programs / data. Last Friday I was the lucky one to receive the fall update, nice, from 20:00 till 01:00 the computer was totally unusable. At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7, have to upgrade someday. This “nice” update experience really made me doubt about Windows 10 (as a service, if I deliver such service I can look for another job) in our production environment. Twice a year a reimage of all physical PC’s, we don’t have the resources. Citrix in a box, we have some experience but doesn’t exist anymore. Terminal server (remote apps), have some nice and more important, less nice experience. Maybe just go back to Windows XP on a segmented network with a nice firewall, even Linux comes to mind. Porting our software to Linux will cost a huge amount of resources, which we don’t have. Don’t know which way Microsoft Windows 10 is going but it looks like “from us”, not “towards us” Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

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        With all the money MSFT makes in selling this stuff and with their new data slurping window 10 .. why should users suffer..

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          From today’s daily news: Microsoft pleads for more enterprise Windows 10 Insider recruits[^] Well, I did opt in with 1 of my home PC’s, the one with no important programs / data. Last Friday I was the lucky one to receive the fall update, nice, from 20:00 till 01:00 the computer was totally unusable. At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7, have to upgrade someday. This “nice” update experience really made me doubt about Windows 10 (as a service, if I deliver such service I can look for another job) in our production environment. Twice a year a reimage of all physical PC’s, we don’t have the resources. Citrix in a box, we have some experience but doesn’t exist anymore. Terminal server (remote apps), have some nice and more important, less nice experience. Maybe just go back to Windows XP on a segmented network with a nice firewall, even Linux comes to mind. Porting our software to Linux will cost a huge amount of resources, which we don’t have. Don’t know which way Microsoft Windows 10 is going but it looks like “from us”, not “towards us” Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

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          Peter Sentveld wrote:

          Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

          And testing your new platform to see how your product works in the future is not part of your "work"? Is a test-PC deemed "too expensive"?

          Peter Sentveld wrote:

          At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7

          Sounds very secure, I hope I'm not a customer :D

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            Peter Sentveld wrote:

            Opt in the insider program with a work PC, no way. It’s there to get work done, not to wait for a 5 hour update before you boot and wait another hour before you can actually use it for any work.

            And testing your new platform to see how your product works in the future is not part of your "work"? Is a test-PC deemed "too expensive"?

            Peter Sentveld wrote:

            At my work (24x7x365) we still using Windows 7

            Sounds very secure, I hope I'm not a customer :D

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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            We do test, on 4 PCs. Last week patched them (one after the other) and started the automated tests. Next day an email with the differences, if any. With this update its goanna take a week before we know the result on 4 PC’s We make small well defined changes, making sure we stay in control. The Windows.Old directory after the “Fall update” is nearly 30 GB. It really makes me nervous. Who is in control? I’m pretty sure you have something with parts originating our company. Consider those made in a controlled environment, with well tested in-house made software making sure nothing is wrong with the quality.

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              We do test, on 4 PCs. Last week patched them (one after the other) and started the automated tests. Next day an email with the differences, if any. With this update its goanna take a week before we know the result on 4 PC’s We make small well defined changes, making sure we stay in control. The Windows.Old directory after the “Fall update” is nearly 30 GB. It really makes me nervous. Who is in control? I’m pretty sure you have something with parts originating our company. Consider those made in a controlled environment, with well tested in-house made software making sure nothing is wrong with the quality.

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              Peter Sentveld wrote:

              It really makes me nervous. Who is in control?

              Dunno; but the changes were pleasant enough to make me try Ubuntu.

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