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  • K Kevin Marois

    OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    What happens if your system dies? Ypu'd have to reinstall the OS, reinstall your various programs, then restore your backup files. Why not image backup to a portable USB HDD (or even better a couple of them)? And add incremental/fie backups onto that. It's not the backup that's important, it's the ability (and amount of work involved) to restore that actually matters. Web backups really only useful for secondary storage, I don't care what the vendors tout, it's all crap - they can fail, they can close shop, they can demand money once they have your data (I'd only ever store files that don't matter on web storage - and even then absolutely never as an only backup.)

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      What happens if your system dies? Ypu'd have to reinstall the OS, reinstall your various programs, then restore your backup files. Why not image backup to a portable USB HDD (or even better a couple of them)? And add incremental/fie backups onto that. It's not the backup that's important, it's the ability (and amount of work involved) to restore that actually matters. Web backups really only useful for secondary storage, I don't care what the vendors tout, it's all crap - they can fail, they can close shop, they can demand money once they have your data (I'd only ever store files that don't matter on web storage - and even then absolutely never as an only backup.)

      Installing Signature... Do not switch off your computer.

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      I'd agree - and a'd encrypt the data before it left my systems as well. That's one of the problems I have with the whole cloud thing - you have no idea who you are actually dealing with, what data security procedures they use, how well backed up the data you send them is. Or even if they will still be in business next week when you actually need the data.

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      • K Kevin Marois

        OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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        Kevin Marois wrote:

        Free would be nice.

        Don't; unless you don't really care about your data. Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data. I have been using Online Cloud Backup | IDrive®[^] for a few years and find it well worth the money.

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          Kevin Marois wrote:

          Free would be nice.

          Don't; unless you don't really care about your data. Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data. I have been using Online Cloud Backup | IDrive®[^] for a few years and find it well worth the money.

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          Kevin Marois
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          Can you give a brief explanation of how it works? It is automatic? set easy? backup anything?

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            What happens if your system dies? Ypu'd have to reinstall the OS, reinstall your various programs, then restore your backup files. Why not image backup to a portable USB HDD (or even better a couple of them)? And add incremental/fie backups onto that. It's not the backup that's important, it's the ability (and amount of work involved) to restore that actually matters. Web backups really only useful for secondary storage, I don't care what the vendors tout, it's all crap - they can fail, they can close shop, they can demand money once they have your data (I'd only ever store files that don't matter on web storage - and even then absolutely never as an only backup.)

            Installing Signature... Do not switch off your computer.

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            Kevin Marois
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            So following your plan... I just replaced my external last week with a 3TB drive. Assume I put another 3tb into my server. We store everything there, then image that each week to the external. Sound right?

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Can you give a brief explanation of how it works? It is automatic? set easy? backup anything?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              Easy as pie. You just need to download the app to your PC, configure which directories to back up, and tell it when you want backups to run. The application then does all the work and gives you a quick summary of the number of files backed up at each run. Recovery is extremely simple from a web page. You can adjust your schedules and directories at any time. If you have a ton of data to backup first then you can request an external disk from them, copy everything onto it and send it back to them by courier, and they will create your first backup. I did this from the UK and it worked seamlessly.

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                Easy as pie. You just need to download the app to your PC, configure which directories to back up, and tell it when you want backups to run. The application then does all the work and gives you a quick summary of the number of files backed up at each run. Recovery is extremely simple from a web page. You can adjust your schedules and directories at any time. If you have a ton of data to backup first then you can request an external disk from them, copy everything onto it and send it back to them by courier, and they will create your first backup. I did this from the UK and it worked seamlessly.

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                Kevin Marois
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                Your thoughts on Lopatir's reply?

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Your thoughts on Lopatir's reply?

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  He is entitled to his opinion.

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                    Kevin Marois wrote:

                    Free would be nice.

                    Don't; unless you don't really care about your data. Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data. I have been using Online Cloud Backup | IDrive®[^] for a few years and find it well worth the money.

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                    I was just going to say that. Why is "free" even a contender if you actually care about the data? How invested can anyone be in providing a free service? They have to monetize through some other means. What's the long-term prospect? Use the freebies as an extra backup only, if you insist on putting anything online to begin with. But "free" should never be the first solution.

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                      I was just going to say that. Why is "free" even a contender if you actually care about the data? How invested can anyone be in providing a free service? They have to monetize through some other means. What's the long-term prospect? Use the freebies as an extra backup only, if you insist on putting anything online to begin with. But "free" should never be the first solution.

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                      I don't think you meant this message for me.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I don't think you meant this message for me.

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                        dandy72
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                        Only the "I was going to say that" part. OP is assumed to continue reading through the threads he starts. :-)

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                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          Free would be nice.

                          Don't; unless you don't really care about your data. Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data. I have been using Online Cloud Backup | IDrive®[^] for a few years and find it well worth the money.

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                          jschell
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                          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                          Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data.

                          Keep in mind however that the guarantee only extends to point that company manages to remain solvent. True of any company of course.

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            Spoon Of Doom
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                            I've been using Backblaze for a while now - not free, but pretty cheap. I haven't needed to restore yet (aside from a couple of specific files here and there), so maybe I'm not fully qualified to recommend the service, but I've heard good things from other users.

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                              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                              Pay for a proper service that guarantees your data.

                              Keep in mind however that the guarantee only extends to point that company manages to remain solvent. True of any company of course.

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                              Well that applies to everything that you buy. And a paid for service is still less likely to disappear without notice.

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                              • S Spoon Of Doom

                                I've been using Backblaze for a while now - not free, but pretty cheap. I haven't needed to restore yet (aside from a couple of specific files here and there), so maybe I'm not fully qualified to recommend the service, but I've heard good things from other users.

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                                I can healthily second BackBlaze.

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                                  I'd agree - and a'd encrypt the data before it left my systems as well. That's one of the problems I have with the whole cloud thing - you have no idea who you are actually dealing with, what data security procedures they use, how well backed up the data you send them is. Or even if they will still be in business next week when you actually need the data.

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                                  Herbie Mountjoy
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                                  True. I got caught out when Microsoft Store closed down. I was bitten again when British Telecom decided to abandon their attempt at cloud storage. These days I have a library of portable spinning discs. Yes, sometimes they fail but a couple of copies of important stuff seems to be the way to go.

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    User 10388727
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                                    https://www.veeam.com/windows-endpoint-server-backup-free.html?ad=menu-products[^]

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      r2jf
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                                      You should take a look at Acronis True Image there's a subscription where you can add Cloud Storage if you want, I use it for local backups only to an external drive and it has worked great the 2 times I had to recover data (one time the full System and other time only some files)

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                                      • K Kevin Marois

                                        OK, so I had a close call and almost lost all my important data. I want to set up some cloud based backup. I'm considering using Google Drive and DropBox. I have AOMIE Backupper, but it turns out it doesn't to cloud backup. Can you guys recommend something. Free would be nice.

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                        Robert Not The Pirate
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                                        If one of the biggest credit reporting services gets hacked, then any big company is vulnerable. I have a SQL Server box, a Web server box, an email server, and 2 workstations. Backing up is critical. I purchased 6 1TB drives and a 6TB Western Digital My Cloud Home, which I use as a NAS. I backup weekly to the 1TB drives. I use TeraByte Unlimited image to backup each box. Much faster than backing up to the cloud.

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