I have a horrible feeling I've been using a pattern for years...
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I admit I googled ... mostly Beer companies, which may be appropriate.
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Success. :-D
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:laugh: That's actually a pretty good name for it, considering!
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Joke aside, I believe there is a pattern called the flyweight pattern that is fitting the description.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Because most patterns are a waste of time, but worshipped as the One True Holy Grail of Computing by those that learn it. And then force all applications they write to fit that pattern regardless of the appropriateness.
..you are interacting with the wrong kind of people. Regardless of your silver bullet, I will not follow in the procession. "Most patterns"? Which are you referring to? They're used throughout the .NET Framework, from factories and adapters to decorators. Just my favourite, the memento, isn't included (afaik, which doesn't mean much). A pattern is simply a formalized piece of code that solves a problem. You have a list of those in your intellisense, don't you? Those snippets are formalized pieces of code that follow a specific pattern and that have a name. Now how does one take one of those templated pieces of code and make a holy grail of it? Is it some consultant, yammering to implement an event-receiver in C#? Code needs to be kissable clean; no patterns "just" to show of that you know something, the simplest solution is always the preferred one. But please, do follow the pattern of wrapping your connections and commands in a using-clause, do use parameterized queries, and please, use the factory-method that is included in the connection object to create your command. It saves a lot of time when rewriting to another provider. ..maybe I should just put my rambling in an article, as a lot of devs that I respect are not too fond of patterns for some weird reason. Tell me, do you vary your code to show a form, or does that happen to be another unnamed pattern that you repeat? :rolleyes:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
maybe I should just put my rambling in an article,
Why not? Do it... I really think it might bring a nice debate in the board
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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Yes, it's called the "static cling" pattern as nothing put into the dictionary ever gets garbage collected. ;)
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It is the Tinder pattern. (A collection of singletons)
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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OriginalGriff wrote:
So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
I only see a downside
you create an "instance" and fill it with data // no problems
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later fetch your "instanse" and do the work // ...wow, that went pretty quickall you've done is taken away the ability of the code editor/compiler to check the item exists and built in another opportunity for a hard to find run-time problem. (if you missed it check the spelling, because the compiler wont do that for you.) and the upside isn't there, a separately declared list left empty takes few resoures.
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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OriginalGriff wrote:
I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
Bullshit! :-) Design patterns were never intended to be the last word and the answer for everything. There is no law against coming up with your very own way of doing something, no matter what some gurus want to have you believe. The SOLID faction would condemn you for breaching the single responsibility principle and using something akin to global variables and singletons. So what? My personal sin is a message broker that I use in almost any UI. When compared to awkward wasteful automatic routing in a large UI tree or fragile code bloating manual routing, having a message broker as a singleton is a blessing. Some object registers with the broker to be notified when a specific message is sent, another object sends the message at some time and the broker looks up all subscribers and calls their event handlers. This is reasonably fast (no searching the entire UI tree) and absolutely unproblematic. The only weak spot is that an object better unregister its subscriptions when it is being destroyed, otherwise the broker may get bogged down servicing dead subscriptions. Yes, global variables or singletons may be problematic, but sometimes you can have all of the benefits without any complications. I would immediately redesign if any complications materialized, but not simply for the purity of some design philosophy's sake. Why throw away something that has proven itself to be useful often enough? But that's just me. I have always been conservative with redesigning and been building libraries, even when that meant to store machine code routines on cassette tapes and manually relocating them into a new program.
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Yes, it's called the "static cling" pattern as nothing put into the dictionary ever gets garbage collected. ;)
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Global variables of any flavor have that problem, that's why I would only do something like that for things that remain mostly constant throughout the program's lifetime. Remember the Win32 hInstance parameter? It was passed to WinMain() as a parameter and remained unchanged from then on and you needed it for many Win32 API calls. The four bytes for a global variable were not much of a problem (yes, it was memory that was not cleaned up until the program ended) and it sure beats passing around that value to every window and dialog. When memory hogging is under control, state is not problematic (or even constant), and when I need it all over the place, I will not go through the trouble of routing that object or variable to the remotest parts of the application.
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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A behavioral pattern?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Because most patterns are a waste of time, but worshipped as the One True Holy Grail of Computing by those that learn it. And then force all applications they write to fit that pattern regardless of the appropriateness.
..you are interacting with the wrong kind of people. Regardless of your silver bullet, I will not follow in the procession. "Most patterns"? Which are you referring to? They're used throughout the .NET Framework, from factories and adapters to decorators. Just my favourite, the memento, isn't included (afaik, which doesn't mean much). A pattern is simply a formalized piece of code that solves a problem. You have a list of those in your intellisense, don't you? Those snippets are formalized pieces of code that follow a specific pattern and that have a name. Now how does one take one of those templated pieces of code and make a holy grail of it? Is it some consultant, yammering to implement an event-receiver in C#? Code needs to be kissable clean; no patterns "just" to show of that you know something, the simplest solution is always the preferred one. But please, do follow the pattern of wrapping your connections and commands in a using-clause, do use parameterized queries, and please, use the factory-method that is included in the connection object to create your command. It saves a lot of time when rewriting to another provider. ..maybe I should just put my rambling in an article, as a lot of devs that I respect are not too fond of patterns for some weird reason. Tell me, do you vary your code to show a form, or does that happen to be another unnamed pattern that you repeat? :rolleyes:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
maybe I should just put my rambling in an article, as a lot of devs that I respect are not too fond of patterns
I am sure I would learn something valuable, if you did !
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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Interesting, Griff, I've played with some similar patterns. It probably was not your intent to show all of your code, but your mention of "heavy resources" made me wonder if you implement IDisposable, or the newer CLassName~ finalizer thingee.
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It is the Tinder pattern. (A collection of singletons)
Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
the Tinder pattern
That's a very tricky one since you have to implement your own MultiTassking, and MultiBedding.
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Interesting, Griff, I've played with some similar patterns. It probably was not your intent to show all of your code, but your mention of "heavy resources" made me wonder if you implement IDisposable, or the newer CLassName~ finalizer thingee.
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IDisposable - and needless to say there are ways to remove items from the
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
maybe I should just put my rambling in an article, as a lot of devs that I respect are not too fond of patterns
I am sure I would learn something valuable, if you did !
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Yes, 10 novel ways to obfuscate your code and get a higher LOC :rolleyes: Working on it, and trying to make it usefull, instead of another summary on which pattern does what and whether it is creational or recriational.
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Yes, it's called the "static cling" pattern as nothing put into the dictionary ever gets garbage collected. ;)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
nothing put into the dictionary ever gets garbage collected.
Is there no way to handle that >?
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Because most patterns are a waste of time, but worshipped as the One True Holy Grail of Computing by those that learn it. And then force all applications they write to fit that pattern regardless of the appropriateness.
..you are interacting with the wrong kind of people. Regardless of your silver bullet, I will not follow in the procession. "Most patterns"? Which are you referring to? They're used throughout the .NET Framework, from factories and adapters to decorators. Just my favourite, the memento, isn't included (afaik, which doesn't mean much). A pattern is simply a formalized piece of code that solves a problem. You have a list of those in your intellisense, don't you? Those snippets are formalized pieces of code that follow a specific pattern and that have a name. Now how does one take one of those templated pieces of code and make a holy grail of it? Is it some consultant, yammering to implement an event-receiver in C#? Code needs to be kissable clean; no patterns "just" to show of that you know something, the simplest solution is always the preferred one. But please, do follow the pattern of wrapping your connections and commands in a using-clause, do use parameterized queries, and please, use the factory-method that is included in the connection object to create your command. It saves a lot of time when rewriting to another provider. ..maybe I should just put my rambling in an article, as a lot of devs that I respect are not too fond of patterns for some weird reason. Tell me, do you vary your code to show a form, or does that happen to be another unnamed pattern that you repeat? :rolleyes:
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I don't care for patterns in my code and I definitely don't care for vague terms like "clean" code. I only care for code that's short, safe to fail, easy to test, and understandable by a college freshman in less than 2 weeks. Nevertheless, please write about the patterns you think are worthwhile; preferably with a not-too-generic example. You might teach us something worthwhile. Also, if anyone knows of a must-read regarding the use of factory-pattern, please share. I really hate it and I'm looking for material to nuance my feelings towards it.
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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Seems like an Appalachian version of DI, just missing a banjo duel :)
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I don't care for patterns in my code and I definitely don't care for vague terms like "clean" code. I only care for code that's short, safe to fail, easy to test, and understandable by a college freshman in less than 2 weeks. Nevertheless, please write about the patterns you think are worthwhile; preferably with a not-too-generic example. You might teach us something worthwhile. Also, if anyone knows of a must-read regarding the use of factory-pattern, please share. I really hate it and I'm looking for material to nuance my feelings towards it.
killbot5000 wrote:
understandable by a college freshman in less than 2 weeks.
If you can't explain your pattern in 5 minutes time, then you probably don't understand it. That is assuming that your freshman knows how to code :)
killbot5000 wrote:
Also, if anyone knows of a must-read regarding the use of factory-pattern, please share.
That's the pattern I'm opening the article with. May take another day or two.
killbot5000 wrote:
I really hate it
Yah, then you had the wrong explanation. Most important question to answer is always "what's in it for me?", and a factory has an easy to explain benefit :thumbsup:
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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Hmm. I don't see anything wrong with it, other than the name "
all" for the container, which isn't terribly descriptive. I've used similar "patterns", where constructors and destructors maintain global constructs as a side effect. The global constructs usually simplify finding one of the instances in some way, or in accessing the entire collection of 'live' instances. In some cases I also use them for orderly shutdowns, to insure that all instances get destroyed properly. For what it's worth, I've never read the GoF Patterns book.Software Zen:
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I use this when the instances are going to be resource heavy - maybe have a couple of images in them - and / or I want one example of each instance through the whole system. So I have a private constructor, a static Dictionary containing all created instances, and a static method which fetches the instance:
private static Dictionary all = new Dictionary();
private MyClass(string name, List data )
{
...
all.Add(name, this);
}
public static MyClass Get(string name, List data)
{
if (all.ContainsKey(name)) return all[name];
return new MyClass(name, data);
}And it works really well. But ... is that a pattern? I hope not, I might have to stop using it ... :~
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