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Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics

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  • J Joe Woodbury

    There was no physics before they came along; it was all just magic. :)

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    Kaladin
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    Joe Woodbury wrote:

    it was all just magic

    Still is: have you heard about magnets?

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      Lopatir wrote:

      Just being pedantic: does that mean physics worked differently before they came along?

      Yes, they actually fixed it. :laugh: Natural languages are great aren't they? And we think AI will take over. Never, because it will never know what anyone is talking about. :laugh:

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      Then we all must be AIs here, because we have that problem with the other half of the population as well.

      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

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      • raddevusR raddevus

        In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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        Chapter one. Magnets. How the f*** do they work? M. Farady.

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        • raddevusR raddevus

          In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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          Chapter one. Magnets. How the f*** do they work? M. Faraday.

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            Chapter one. Magnets. How the f*** do they work? M. Faraday.

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            :laugh: :thumbsup: Lines of flux...blah...blah...

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            • J Joe Woodbury

              There was no physics before they came along; it was all just magic. :)

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              Astrophysics is still magic: you know, string theory and the like.

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              • L Lost User

                Just being pedantic: does that mean physics worked differently before they came along? or did they revolutionize the study of physics?

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                Physics is already "the study of".

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                • raddevusR raddevus

                  In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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                  raddevus wrote:

                  He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted

                  That would be rather problematic in the current era since wait times for colliders and space telescopes already span years. Real problem if every freshman physics student would need to reconfirm everything from first principles. Not to mention of course how many of them would get the process wrong and then claim that they 'proved' something new.

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                  • B Basildane

                    Chapter one. Magnets. How the f*** do they work? M. Farady.

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                    You sure that it wasn't Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope who asked that?

                    We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, VidMe and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                    • J jschell

                      raddevus wrote:

                      He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted

                      That would be rather problematic in the current era since wait times for colliders and space telescopes already span years. Real problem if every freshman physics student would need to reconfirm everything from first principles. Not to mention of course how many of them would get the process wrong and then claim that they 'proved' something new.

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                      Me : Hell yeah we proved it! Them : What did you prove? Me : (Head scratching) I don't know... something? What do you think I proved?

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                      • raddevusR raddevus

                        Lopatir wrote:

                        Just being pedantic: does that mean physics worked differently before they came along?

                        Yes, they actually fixed it. :laugh: Natural languages are great aren't they? And we think AI will take over. Never, because it will never know what anyone is talking about. :laugh:

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                        raddevus wrote:

                        And we think AI will take over. Never, because it will never know what anyone is talking about. :laugh:

                        Seeing as AI draws most of it's information from the internet: to ensure AI fails all we need to do is fill the internet up with stupid stuff and bullshit.... Oh wait!

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                        • G GenJerDan

                          You sure that it wasn't Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope who asked that?

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                          Appropriate for the person whose name is the unit of cap-ass-itance... I'll get my coat... Andy B

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                          • J Joe Woodbury

                            There was no physics before they came along; it was all just magic. :)

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                            It still is magic. :)

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                            • raddevusR raddevus

                              In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              Wow, college physics, I remember reading the book: Can you imagine the excitement Maxwell had when he realized that a moving magnetic field produced a moving electric field and vice versa, such that the electro-magnetic field could then travel through space without requiring a medium to travel through... == and for a brief instant I had 2 thoughts: - Oh Cool - Will this be on the test LOL

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                                Wow, college physics, I remember reading the book: Can you imagine the excitement Maxwell had when he realized that a moving magnetic field produced a moving electric field and vice versa, such that the electro-magnetic field could then travel through space without requiring a medium to travel through... == and for a brief instant I had 2 thoughts: - Oh Cool - Will this be on the test LOL

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                                raddevus
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                                Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                a moving magnetic field produced a moving electric field and vice versa

                                Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                the electro-magnetic field could then travel through space without requiring a medium to travel through

                                Two amazing discoveries, for sure. :thumbsup:

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                                • raddevusR raddevus

                                  In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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                                  Bruce Patin
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                                  Did it cover quaternions and how they got converted to the current system? Supposedly, Maxwell screwed up doing this and prevented discoveries yet to be made (by non-top-secret researchers anyway).

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                                    Did it cover quaternions and how they got converted to the current system? Supposedly, Maxwell screwed up doing this and prevented discoveries yet to be made (by non-top-secret researchers anyway).

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                                    raddevus
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                                    Bruce Patin wrote:

                                    Did it cover quaternions and how they got converted to the current system?

                                    INteresting. I have only gotten through half the book so far so we will see.

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                                    • raddevusR raddevus

                                      In between all these article I'm writing I'm also reading this fantastic book I stumbled upon. It tells the story of Faraday's life and his great discoveries. He is very inspiring because he always liked to do experiments himself to prove or disprove the science that was being discovered: he never took the answers for granted.:thumbsup: That is the core personality trait that the book cites that led to his great success. Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics[^] Really great book. Anyone else read it? I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in Electronics, etc. This is the guy who they named the measure of capacitance after (farads). :thumbsup:

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                                      Read it. Loved it. Learned a lot about these two greats and how they worked. Even understood Maxwell’s equations a little better. One a hands-on genius who didn’t know much math, the other a math genius. Amazing that it took both to unravel electromagnetics.

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                                        Just being pedantic: does that mean physics worked differently before they came along? or did they revolutionize the study of physics?

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                                        Since words have meaning, lets focus on that. phys·ics noun: physics the branch of science concerned with the nature and properties of matter and energy. The subject matter of physics, distinguished from that of chemistry and biology, includes mechanics, heat, light and other radiation, sound, electricity, magnetism, and the structure of atoms. sci·ence noun: science the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. Thus physics is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the nature and properties of matter and energy through observation and experiment. So they could easily have revolutionized that study, which is to say physics. Study of physics is reading a book of someone else's science.

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                                        • M matblue25

                                          Read it. Loved it. Learned a lot about these two greats and how they worked. Even understood Maxwell’s equations a little better. One a hands-on genius who didn’t know much math, the other a math genius. Amazing that it took both to unravel electromagnetics.

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                                          raddevus
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                                          Very cool that you've read this.

                                          matblue25 wrote:

                                          One a hands-on genius who didn’t know much math, the other a math genius. Amazing that it took both to unravel electromagnetics.

                                          That's a great summary! :thumbsup:

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