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That Linux praise?...I take at least part of it back.

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Yep, it is close, but just fails at the final hurdle. I am having issues with 17.10 and nvidia drivers, (massively high) resolutions, blank screens. Perhaps go back to an older Ubuntu with the unity shell?

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    George Swan
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    I would try Linux Mint before giving up.

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    • G George Swan

      I would try Linux Mint before giving up.

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      Munchies_Matt
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      No plans to give up! Not that I intend to use it, I just need to get a kernel with some extra tracing/step through running so I can see why my USB device isnt working properly on linux.

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        Good CD, very good actually, but I prefer Macrium. Or you can just turn off updates...

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        Nelek
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        For the Win10 Laptop I have changed to Macrium too... Hiren's was not working anymore and I needed a substitute. Pity :sigh: I tested the one that OG recommends, the software was nice, but the boot CD sucked. Macrium is a bit more complicated, but the Boot CD worked fine for me.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • G George Swan

          Could I please make a few representations for the defence? It's not surprising that a PC built to run Windows does not run Linux as efficiently. Also, it takes two to network, if Linux doesn't network well with Windows it's equally true that Windows does not network well with Linux. As for the final statement, 'Linux...you're so close, yet still so far from actually being usable.' How can you explain that, according to Wikipedia, 'Linux has the largest installed base of all general-purpose operating systems. Linux is also the leading operating system on servers and other big iron systems such as mainframe computers'?

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          dandy72
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          George Swan wrote:

          How can you explain that, according to Wikipedia,

          Easily.

          George Swan wrote:

          'Linux has the largest installed base of all general-purpose operating systems.

          These days they include Android phones in the count when you hear that statement

          George Swan wrote:

          Linux is also the leading operating system on servers and other big iron systems such as mainframe computers'?

          Notice how they leave out desktops...which is the sort of environment I'm trying to use it in and where it's failing.

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            Yep, it is close, but just fails at the final hurdle. I am having issues with 17.10 and nvidia drivers, (massively high) resolutions, blank screens. Perhaps go back to an older Ubuntu with the unity shell?

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            dandy72
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            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            Perhaps go back to an older Ubuntu with the unity shell?

            I've been thinking about that. Perhaps something that was current at the time the latest Linux drivers for my video chipset came out. Maybe I'll do that if the system (now back on Windows 10) starts running into errors installing updates again... It's important though in this case that I use something lightweight. Unity is all but that.

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            • D dandy72

              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              Perhaps go back to an older Ubuntu with the unity shell?

              I've been thinking about that. Perhaps something that was current at the time the latest Linux drivers for my video chipset came out. Maybe I'll do that if the system (now back on Windows 10) starts running into errors installing updates again... It's important though in this case that I use something lightweight. Unity is all but that.

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              I believe at login you can chose unity 2D instead of 3D. 2D is lighter I believe.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                I believe at login you can chose unity 2D instead of 3D. 2D is lighter I believe.

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                dandy72
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                I'll try to find out if/when I reinstall Linux on that machine. Right now that's not in my plans.

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                • L Lost User

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                  keep looking long after others have given up.

                  My gawd! I wish I had known you in the old days when I was hiring computer experts like you. But now I'm retired. Sorry! :-D By the way: I dumped Ubuntu years ago, when it did not have a driver for a plain Soundblaster card. I never tried it again.

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Daniel Wilianto
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                  Not surprising. It also missing drivers for all sort of graphic cards other than Intel, making gaming / video editing / photo editing a pain in the butt because of how sluggish it is.

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                  • G George Swan

                    The problem is not with the CPU, it's the lack of driver support for the bungled hardware. See this piece regarding Nvidia.

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                    Daniel Wilianto
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                    That middle finger salute is laughable. Nvidia is a money making corporation, it is not a charity foundation. They have no obligation to make drivers for open source OS, which gives them zero income. They have workers who have families to be fed.

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                    • D Daniel Wilianto

                      That middle finger salute is laughable. Nvidia is a money making corporation, it is not a charity foundation. They have no obligation to make drivers for open source OS, which gives them zero income. They have workers who have families to be fed.

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                      George Swan
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                      I think the main complaint is that Nvidia do not disclose sufficient information to allow others to build efficient drivers for its hardware.

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                      • G George Swan

                        I think the main complaint is that Nvidia do not disclose sufficient information to allow others to build efficient drivers for its hardware.

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                        Daniel Wilianto
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                        Those are company secret :-)

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