How many of you really believe UFO stories?
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Vunic wrote:
I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things?
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i guess they would love to die while fighting Aliens or they just want to show off anything. Nod idea but yeah i guess it's a US thing.
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Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US
In fairness, that's only true of American movies, so is understandable enough. Japanese cinema/anime has no shortage of aliens landing in or attacking Japan... and there's always The Arrival of Wang, a wonderful Italian interpretation of the genre, for those of you wanting something a bit different to get your teeth into.... ...but yeah, never miss an opportunity to laugh at the US - they do seem to have more than their fair share of loony toons... :laugh:
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As the technology advances, so do these monsters. Wands become lightsabers.
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They do indeed - the Monster Under The Bed now has a webcam and gang tattoos...
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Vunic wrote:
I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things?
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i guess they would love to die while fighting Aliens or they just want to show off anything. Nod idea but yeah i guess it's a US thing.
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}Real life UFO sightings don't just occur in the US. They occur near air force bases all over the world.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Former Navy pilot describes encounter with UFO studied by secret Pentagon program[^] Never settle! :doh: I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things? :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Yes. No. Maybe. UFO sightings are a worldwide phenomenon, they are not just restricted to the USA. Are they true? Who knows: 1: If there were alien craft and they didn't want to be seen, they wouldn't be seen. Maybe they don't care if we see them. 2: If there were aliens and they were belligerent, we'd already be dead. 3: Why would they come to this mudball planet out at the edge of an unremarkable galaxy? Why are we so interesting? 4: How come they always land in Asshole, Alabama and not on the White House lawn? Is there life out there, either in our solar system or on planets around other stars? Highly likely. As has been said, either we are alone or we are not. Either way the implications are staggering.
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UFO's and alien abductions are a modern thing; the pre-1950's equivalent was witches or fairies, the devil or succubi. Before UFOs, witches were seen flying across the sky on brooms - now presumably they have all been shot down by the UFOs and take a taxi ... DO I believe them? No chance. Just look at the people who report the sightings - would they be a credible expert witness in a court trial? :laugh:
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There was an interesting book called something like "blah blah blah Bichemeral mind" which discussed this and how over the centuries fairy and demon abductions have turned into UFO abductions.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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There are many credible accounts from pilots, backed up by radar tracking from the ground, of unknown objects travelling in odd ways; stopping, accelerating at ridiculous rates etc. AT the same time it is very likely there is life elsewhere in the universe. Given the ability of life to utilise extreme environments on earth (deep sea ocean vents, a heat and sulphur system, as opposed to the surface, which is a sunlight and carbon cycle system) we could well have life on Europa for example. Are these alien spacecraft? We just dont know. They could be, they could be some weird unknown natural effect, like ball lightening for example. It can do some very odd things.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
There are many credible accounts from pilots
...and there's my problem - for some reason pilots, policemen and soldiers are always completely in control of their perceptions and unable to be deceived by them. There is an element in pilot training called 'human factors' which very clearly show how easy it is for even pilots to be deceived by their senses. Although of course being able to back up these claims with radar does add something to their claims.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
There are many credible accounts from pilots
...and there's my problem - for some reason pilots, policemen and soldiers are always completely in control of their perceptions and unable to be deceived by them. There is an element in pilot training called 'human factors' which very clearly show how easy it is for even pilots to be deceived by their senses. Although of course being able to back up these claims with radar does add something to their claims.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
It is the radar back up that shows it isnt just pilot hallucination. There was a case over NZ, between north and south islands, backed up by radar, for example. Of course it could be some natural phenomenon. Ball lightening, as I mentioned does some strange things. ball lightning - Google Search[^] Ball lightning - Wikipedia[^] It can hover, enter a room, move about. Very strange stuff.
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Former Navy pilot describes encounter with UFO studied by secret Pentagon program[^] Never settle! :doh: I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things? :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
I am a bit skeptical of the UFO stories that are in abundance on the web. For starters, why do none of professional star gazers find them? Heck, what about wide majority of amateurs who too have decent equipment. Do I believe UFOs exist? Yes. If I find something flying which I have not seen earlier, by definition, is UFO for me. Do I believe there are flying objects from another civilization somewhere? May be. I don't know. It would not be smart to deny their existence. However, I wonder if they exist, do they just come here for a stroll? This is a vast topic IMHO and easily ventures into various fields of study that simply confuses me.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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UFO's and alien abductions are a modern thing; the pre-1950's equivalent was witches or fairies, the devil or succubi. Before UFOs, witches were seen flying across the sky on brooms - now presumably they have all been shot down by the UFOs and take a taxi ... DO I believe them? No chance. Just look at the people who report the sightings - would they be a credible expert witness in a court trial? :laugh:
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Are you not aware of the event in the 50's when UFO's buzzed Washington, were tracked on RADAR from Andrews Air Force Base, were intercepted by fighter jets and were witnessed by hundreds of eye witnesses included the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES himself? And the event happened again the next day. In broad daylight. If that's not credible enough then nothing is.
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Are you not aware of the event in the 50's when UFO's buzzed Washington, were tracked on RADAR from Andrews Air Force Base, were intercepted by fighter jets and were witnessed by hundreds of eye witnesses included the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES himself? And the event happened again the next day. In broad daylight. If that's not credible enough then nothing is.
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Vunic wrote:
I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things?
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i guess they would love to die while fighting Aliens or they just want to show off anything. Nod idea but yeah i guess it's a US thing.
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}HobbyProggy wrote:
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i
You clearly watch and parse rather selectively. Japan was a favorite UFO target just about forever. "The Mysterians" was one of my favorite movies when I was little. Damn - they even put a long pointy nose on a robot. If one goes by length as defining a movie, Dr Who's invasions were primarily of London (when on earth, at least). However - I'm willing to compromise on this. How about we call it fair and put out signals so the next main attack is Quebec? Who-TF would care? We can let the aliens win and call it the mother of all win-win situations.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Former Navy pilot describes encounter with UFO studied by secret Pentagon program[^] Never settle! :doh: I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things? :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
You do realize that "unidentified flying objects" doesn't require it come from space. Take it literally (ye-gads!). It means just what it says.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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If it's not on the Internet, then it didn't happen. -- Abraham Lincoln
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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HobbyProggy wrote:
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i
You clearly watch and parse rather selectively. Japan was a favorite UFO target just about forever. "The Mysterians" was one of my favorite movies when I was little. Damn - they even put a long pointy nose on a robot. If one goes by length as defining a movie, Dr Who's invasions were primarily of London (when on earth, at least). However - I'm willing to compromise on this. How about we call it fair and put out signals so the next main attack is Quebec? Who-TF would care? We can let the aliens win and call it the mother of all win-win situations.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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If it's not on the Internet, then it didn't happen. -- Abraham Lincoln
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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HobbyProggy wrote:
Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US, i
You clearly watch and parse rather selectively. Japan was a favorite UFO target just about forever. "The Mysterians" was one of my favorite movies when I was little. Damn - they even put a long pointy nose on a robot. If one goes by length as defining a movie, Dr Who's invasions were primarily of London (when on earth, at least). However - I'm willing to compromise on this. How about we call it fair and put out signals so the next main attack is Quebec? Who-TF would care? We can let the aliens win and call it the mother of all win-win situations.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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By the way, I'm a big skeptic myself, especially of the "lone farmer in Wyoming" who sees something. But after studying this event, I was shaken.
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Every freaking UFO / Alien attack (In Movies) takes place in the US
In fairness, that's only true of American movies, so is understandable enough. Japanese cinema/anime has no shortage of aliens landing in or attacking Japan... and there's always The Arrival of Wang, a wonderful Italian interpretation of the genre, for those of you wanting something a bit different to get your teeth into.... ...but yeah, never miss an opportunity to laugh at the US - they do seem to have more than their fair share of loony toons... :laugh:
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Former Navy pilot describes encounter with UFO studied by secret Pentagon program[^] Never settle! :doh: I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things? :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
> How many of you really believe UFO stories? Strictly speaking? Yes, I do believe there are UFO stories out there. Whether I believe *in* them is another matter altogether. What I'm amazed by is how the majority of people immediately make an association between "Unidentified Flying Object" with extraterrestrials when clearly, there's nothing in the definition that infers any of that.
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Former Navy pilot describes encounter with UFO studied by secret Pentagon program[^] Never settle! :doh: I think it's mainly in the US, people are so crazy about this funny UFO things? :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
We obsess because they're unidentified. That bothers us on a fundamental and cultural level; we like to pretend that easily defined boxes are a bad thing, then freak out when things aren't in easily defined boxes.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli