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  • P PeejayAdams

    I really like Opera but the inevitable problem is that so many sites only support the "big 3" and therein lies the problem. Microsoft have completely lost the plot with the IE/Edge development path. Chrome used to be great but now just eats memory. Firefox, which also used to be great, is now just bloatware. But because they established the big market shares back in the days when they were better, they're the ones that get supported - it's a Catch 22. A quick glance at [browser market share stats](https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?options={"filter"%3A{"%24and"%3A[{"deviceType"%3A{"%24in"%3A["Desktop%2Flaptop"]}}]}%2C"dateLabel"%3A"Trend"%2C"attributes"%3A"share"%2C"group"%3A"browser"%2C"sort"%3A{"share"%3A-1}%2C"id"%3A"browsersDesktop"%2C"dateInterval"%3A"Monthly"%2C"dateStart"%3A"2016-12"%2C"dateEnd"%3A"2017-11"%2C"segments"%3A"-1000"}) shows how valuable what I would call "legacy popularity" is. It's a similar situation to Android - Android used to be cool, now it gets progressively worse due to the pointless tinkering that comes with every "upgrade" but because it was good for long enough for it to have become the only phone/tab OS in town, it's difficult to see how it will ever get dislodged.

    98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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    PeejayAdams wrote:

    I really like Opera but the inevitable problem is that so many sites only support the "big 3" and therein lies the problem.

    It's been years since the last time I ran into something that didn't work in a niche browser (probably not since I stopped using the Presto version of Opera). Since then the only time I've seen a site acknowledging a 3rd party browser is one of my CC companies having an outdated browser version check that's faster on the uptake about new Vivaldi releases than the update notifier in the browser itself. :laugh:

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    • J Johnny J

      It works perfectly. But that's not new, they've had that for a loooong time... :doh:

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      Andre Pereira
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      Yeah, they had, except you had 50 step setup, compared to chrome's "sign in once and you're done".

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      • C Chris Maunder

        ...has inexplicably and suddenly become my new browser of choice. Just like that. Sorry Chrome. It was good while it lasted. Except for the bits where you used up all my RAM and then kept crashing.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Lost User
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        Same observation. (Runs in the background even when closed ... probably mining bitcoins). Also, trashed Edge. Edge will always (in our case) default to the "last site" (when it crashes); which in the case of a hosed / "end task" web site, means a "deadlock". Couldn't find any reference to changing that default behaviour (before trashing it).

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        • C Chris Maunder

          ...has inexplicably and suddenly become my new browser of choice. Just like that. Sorry Chrome. It was good while it lasted. Except for the bits where you used up all my RAM and then kept crashing.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          agolddog
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          ..has inexplicably and suddenly become my new browser of choice

          If true, that doesn't seem inexplicable.

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          • D Dan Neely

            PeejayAdams wrote:

            I really like Opera but the inevitable problem is that so many sites only support the "big 3" and therein lies the problem.

            It's been years since the last time I ran into something that didn't work in a niche browser (probably not since I stopped using the Presto version of Opera). Since then the only time I've seen a site acknowledging a 3rd party browser is one of my CC companies having an outdated browser version check that's faster on the uptake about new Vivaldi releases than the update notifier in the browser itself. :laugh:

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            PeejayAdams
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            It's nowhere near as frequent as it used to be but you still get the odd site where something doesn't work in Opera. There a couple of sites I use that will only play nicely with IE or Chrome. It's a pain because it means Opera is my main browser rather than my only browser as I'd prefer it to be.

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            • P PeejayAdams

              It's nowhere near as frequent as it used to be but you still get the odd site where something doesn't work in Opera. There a couple of sites I use that will only play nicely with IE or Chrome. It's a pain because it means Opera is my main browser rather than my only browser as I'd prefer it to be.

              98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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              IYDMA What sites? In several years of using first New Opera and then Vivaldi as my main browser at home I've never encountered a single issue.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                IYDMA What sites? In several years of using first New Opera and then Vivaldi as my main browser at home I've never encountered a single issue.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                PeejayAdams
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                There are a couple of fairly prominent UK bookmakers' sites that don't behave too well in Opera. Admittedly, these are pretty complex sites with a mix of labyrinthine page routing, multiple live feeds, video streaming and some (hopefully) pretty heavy security wrappers - so there's plenty of scope for things to go wrong with them.

                98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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                • D DaveAuld

                  Not as if you were using that RAM for anything else, so it was fair game. Did you get you experience the free Mr Robot plugin that FF deployed with the update?

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  You're right - if VS, Office or, say, Windows itself had needed that RAM it would have taken it already, right? No Robot for me. I live in hope, though.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    ...has inexplicably and suddenly become my new browser of choice. Just like that. Sorry Chrome. It was good while it lasted. Except for the bits where you used up all my RAM and then kept crashing.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Alan Burkhart
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                    Been using FF for years. Chrome is my #2. IE and Edge are not in the equation.

                    Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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                    • M Maximilien

                      Yep. Transferring passwords and bookmarks; will see how it works.

                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                      Lost User
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                      I'm curious how FF does in regards to synchronizing bookmarks across devices (PC, phone & tablet). Does it require me setting up a FF account to do so? Or can it use my Google account or some other magic?

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