Evil Norton
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
There was a time when Norton was good and loved by all. Norton Commander anyone? It could be removed simply with del *.* Ok there were some people that used xTree Gold but we don't talk about them.
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
When I buy a new machine like this, I blow out everything and start fresh with a clean install of the OS, then take it from there. IMHO, you are wasting your time trying to delete from the machine what you don't want; some of which, will never leave. Just a thought. :thumbsup:
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Chris Maunder wrote:
It says "Get layered protection
You know, when the rest of the world says this... it means something totally different.
Jeremy Falcon
For Chris it means he's going out for a long bike ride in -10°C temperatures.
Software Zen:
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
That was when he was an elite programmer/writer/teacher. Now he's a rich company owner, what did you expect? :-) Also, I bet he's not remotely involved in the software design/functionality - probably spends most of his time in his beach mansion on some fancy pacific island. :-D
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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Another Trojan removed, methinks. WINE is becoming good enough these days, that I can't imagine a situation in which my own money will ever pay for another copy of Windows again. When usage stats were automatically sent and the ability to forgo updates was removed, they jumped the shark. Removing Aero and also the visual cues a 3d interface provide shows they let the young kids that didn't bother with history drive the ship. When I've gotta pay (for stuff I don't want) to play every day, they can just elephant right off. My network access is expensive (mobile broad-band). It's an added expense for the ability to use a product which delivers a diminished experience. A total no-brainer for me. Others naturally, get far better mileage since the horror-show change of direction started with Win8.
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That was when he was an elite programmer/writer/teacher. Now he's a rich company owner, what did you expect? :-) Also, I bet he's not remotely involved in the software design/functionality - probably spends most of his time in his beach mansion on some fancy pacific island. :-D
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Peter hasn't been involved with Norton Utilities for aeons. Unfortunately.
cheers Chris Maunder
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When I buy a new machine like this, I blow out everything and start fresh with a clean install of the OS, then take it from there. IMHO, you are wasting your time trying to delete from the machine what you don't want; some of which, will never leave. Just a thought. :thumbsup:
I just gave up on trying to be Mr Nice Guy. Blowing away partition and starting from scratch. Why does this have to be so painful? (and as a Windows user I have to say: Apple does this WAY, way better)
cheers Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
It says "Get layered protection
You know, when the rest of the world says this... it means something totally different.
Jeremy Falcon
I can't believe it took 13hrs for someone to make that joke.
cheers Chris Maunder
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For Chris it means he's going out for a long bike ride in -10°C temperatures.
Software Zen:
delete this;I think about -4C was my coldest this season. I am getting soft in my old age.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Peter hasn't been involved with Norton Utilities for aeons. Unfortunately.
cheers Chris Maunder
They'll say the same about you too soon I'd imagine. *Remember Chris Maunder, the Aussie MFC hacker who wrote all those neat controls. Well, now he's a fat middle aged beer drinker living in Canada* :-D
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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I just gave up on trying to be Mr Nice Guy. Blowing away partition and starting from scratch. Why does this have to be so painful? (and as a Windows user I have to say: Apple does this WAY, way better)
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Why does this have to be so painful?
I often ask myself the same question, and I often get no answers. :sigh:
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They'll say the same about you too soon I'd imagine. *Remember Chris Maunder, the Aussie MFC hacker who wrote all those neat controls. Well, now he's a fat middle aged beer drinker living in Canada* :-D
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Hey - I didn't call Peter fat! (But if being fat and drinking beer is what's needed to be as successful as he is, where do I sign?)
cheers Chris Maunder
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I think about -4C was my coldest this season. I am getting soft in my old age.
cheers Chris Maunder
Same here. I haven't run outside in over a month, for largely the same reason.
Software Zen:
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
I was on the support team at Symantec when they released Norton Utilities v.3 for Windows 95. I always felt bad for the callers who were mystified that after installing the entire product they could not find their deleted files in the recovery tool. They didn't read the manual; didn't use the floppy boot disk DOS-based recovery tool. Oops...
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enhzflep wrote:
WINE is becoming good enough these days
It has been for centuries! I personally enjoy few glasses of a nice Cabernet Shiraz... :)
:laugh: :thumbsup: I'm surprised it took this long for someone to come at the [recursive backronym](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine\_(software)) from this angle. Fun.
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I can't believe it took 13hrs for someone to make that joke.
cheers Chris Maunder
Better late than never.
Jeremy Falcon
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I always buy a copy of windows to install onto a new laptop. Their pre-installed windows is usually polluted with crap that doesn't work all the way. I understand the reason they (the laptop manufacturers) do it, but they should also provide a restore point that allows you to eliminate the crap-ware in one fell swoop instead of forcing you to either a) delete each crap-ware package one at a time, or b) force you to do it the way I do it - with an unfettered copy of Windows (which takes a LOT less time).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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I just gave up on trying to be Mr Nice Guy. Blowing away partition and starting from scratch. Why does this have to be so painful? (and as a Windows user I have to say: Apple does this WAY, way better)
cheers Chris Maunder
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
I remember fixing a PC pestered with bloatware and the Norton uninstaller didn't work. It simply didn't want me to uninstall Norton. So I surgically removed it. Looked for everything where Norton was sittng and removed it carefully. After removing all things Norton, the network stack was broken. Those imbecils @ Symantec whom ought to be forbidden from touching a computer ever again managed to tie Norton with the network stack in a way to make the network stack not work without Norton components! This is meaner than what most parasites do, this is pretty much what the facehugger does: Making sure that it's poor host dies when the parasite is removed. After this occurence, I took an oath to never ever touch Norton again except for killing it with holy fires of "Down with crap".
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I remember when Peter Norton was a legend among legends, and Norton Utilities were a must-have in your toolkit. I'm just setting up a new desktop (an Acer) and am cleaning out the bloatware that seems to have metastasised throughout the machine. I'm up to Norton anti-virus and on the uninstall screen is a checkbox (pre-checked) at the end of the "Are you sure you want to uninstall" dialog that looks exactly like a "I agree to the terms of use" checkbox. Except it isn't. It says "Get layered protection by allowing Norton Security Scan to be activated and periodically scan your computer for viruses, spyware malware and other threats". So on the "I want to uninstall Norton Security" dialog is a pre-checked dim grey checkbox specifically asking you to allow them to install a Norton security product. :|
cheers Chris Maunder
I remember fixing a PC pestered with bloatware and the Norton uninstaller didn't work. It simply didn't want me to uninstall Norton. So I surgically removed it. Looked for everything where Norton was sittng and removed it carefully. After removing all things Norton, the network stack was broken. Those imbecils @ Symantec whom ought to be forbidden from touching a computer ever again managed to tie Norton with the network stack in a way to make the network stack not work without Norton components! This is meaner than what most parasites do, this is pretty much what the facehugger does: Making sure that it's poor host dies when the parasite is removed. After this occurence, I took an oath to never ever touch Norton again except for killing it with holy fires of "Down with crap".
