Internet Mail Server Recomendations
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Okay Guys, We have been using Exchange for some time now but we are considering changing our internet mail server platform (since all we really need is a POP/SMTP server and none of the other bells and whistles that come with Exchange). What are the options? We are running Windows 2000 Server. Thanks - Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]
If you want to wait n number of months to find out whether or not the mail server I'm working on is ready yet, you can do that. If you don't want to wait for the world's best email server (the one I talked about above), you can look here[^]. It's free, open source and reasonably good. Once you get it running, you can forget all about it. I used it a bit for testing/comparison when I was just starting to work on my own mail server. The author told me that it's used by an ISP which has over 50,000 accounts. This is about one year back. I'm sure it has come a long way since then and is much better now. There are versions for Windows, *nix and Solaris. No bells and whistles, no wizard or MMC snap in, no configuration program even (but you can write your own, it's just a matter of writing to some text files). Nothing but a POP/SMTP server, and does only what an email server should do - send and recieve emails. And there is a mailing list for support, and a lot of people, including the author himself, are there to solve any problem you might face. There are also a lot of small add-ons for it, on the same page, which you may find useful too.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
If you want to wait n number of months to find out whether or not the mail server I'm working on is ready yet, you can do that. If you don't want to wait for the world's best email server (the one I talked about above), you can look here[^]. It's free, open source and reasonably good. Once you get it running, you can forget all about it. I used it a bit for testing/comparison when I was just starting to work on my own mail server. The author told me that it's used by an ISP which has over 50,000 accounts. This is about one year back. I'm sure it has come a long way since then and is much better now. There are versions for Windows, *nix and Solaris. No bells and whistles, no wizard or MMC snap in, no configuration program even (but you can write your own, it's just a matter of writing to some text files). Nothing but a POP/SMTP server, and does only what an email server should do - send and recieve emails. And there is a mailing list for support, and a lot of people, including the author himself, are there to solve any problem you might face. There are also a lot of small add-ons for it, on the same page, which you may find useful too.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: If you don't want to wait for the world's best email server (the one I talked about above), You must be talking about the one I'm writing,then ;) (Already in beta) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Okay Guys, We have been using Exchange for some time now but we are considering changing our internet mail server platform (since all we really need is a POP/SMTP server and none of the other bells and whistles that come with Exchange). What are the options? We are running Windows 2000 Server. Thanks - Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]
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Okay Guys, We have been using Exchange for some time now but we are considering changing our internet mail server platform (since all we really need is a POP/SMTP server and none of the other bells and whistles that come with Exchange). What are the options? We are running Windows 2000 Server. Thanks - Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]
Never used it personally, but I see it mentioned all over the place: http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/index.html[^] Also, Windows Server 2003 contains a POP3 service, though I don't know how good it is.
Jon Sagara
In India, when someone says "mad cow", you know it's actually a bull charging at him. -- Rohit Sinha -
Okay Guys, We have been using Exchange for some time now but we are considering changing our internet mail server platform (since all we really need is a POP/SMTP server and none of the other bells and whistles that come with Exchange). What are the options? We are running Windows 2000 Server. Thanks - Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]
You have a couple of options. There are several freeware/shareware servers out there, and a lot of commercial ones. How many accounts do you need on it, and how much are you ready to pay? Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers, so you might be able to use that one... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Rohit Sinha wrote: If you don't want to wait for the world's best email server (the one I talked about above), You must be talking about the one I'm writing,then ;) (Already in beta) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Already in beta So how about posting a link in the Collaboration/Testing forum, then? :) Others will be able to test it for you.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
You have a couple of options. There are several freeware/shareware servers out there, and a lot of commercial ones. How many accounts do you need on it, and how much are you ready to pay? Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers, so you might be able to use that one... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers <scared voice>Does this mean we can forget about our mail servers? Especially me, since mine is in the pre pre alpha stage.</scared voice>
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
Anders Molin wrote: Already in beta So how about posting a link in the Collaboration/Testing forum, then? :) Others will be able to test it for you.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaHmmm, I still need the Admin GUI App, it's only the server stuff that's ready, and I really like to get the admin stuff ready before releasing it to too many people... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Anders Molin wrote: Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers <scared voice>Does this mean we can forget about our mail servers? Especially me, since mine is in the pre pre alpha stage.</scared voice>
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaI thought the same thing.... The POP3 server in Windoes 2003 is integrated with windows users and domains, so I still think people is going to buy 3rd party mailservers so they can create mail-users that are not windows users... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I thought the same thing.... The POP3 server in Windoes 2003 is integrated with windows users and domains, so I still think people is going to buy 3rd party mailservers so they can create mail-users that are not windows users... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Ah, that's a comforting thought...
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
You have a couple of options. There are several freeware/shareware servers out there, and a lot of commercial ones. How many accounts do you need on it, and how much are you ready to pay? Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers, so you might be able to use that one... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Hmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to steal just the POP3 stuff off the trial CD and make it work with Win2K Server?:-O "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
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Hmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to steal just the POP3 stuff off the trial CD and make it work with Win2K Server?:-O "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
LOL, probably not :( - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I thought the same thing.... The POP3 server in Windoes 2003 is integrated with windows users and domains, so I still think people is going to buy 3rd party mailservers so they can create mail-users that are not windows users... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: The POP3 server in Windoes 2003 is integrated with windows users and domains That is an option YES! But if you choose *NOT* to do Domain Authentication, you can use standard clear text to any user or domain name. :confused: ... Actually lets just setup a new Mail server on 2003 and find out what it can and can't do ... :wtf:
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Hmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to steal just the POP3 stuff off the trial CD and make it work with Win2K Server?:-O "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
I tried installing IIS 6 on XP Pro, to put it simply I was given the option to retreat or the self destruct sequence would start. I decided to try my luck on self destruct. Long story short the self-destruct crashed after deleting it self and the possibility of installing IIS 5 on XP without a little "tweaking". Matt
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Okay Guys, We have been using Exchange for some time now but we are considering changing our internet mail server platform (since all we really need is a POP/SMTP server and none of the other bells and whistles that come with Exchange). What are the options? We are running Windows 2000 Server. Thanks - Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]
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Anders Molin wrote: The POP3 server in Windoes 2003 is integrated with windows users and domains That is an option YES! But if you choose *NOT* to do Domain Authentication, you can use standard clear text to any user or domain name. :confused: ... Actually lets just setup a new Mail server on 2003 and find out what it can and can't do ... :wtf:
What I mean is... To add a mail account you have to make a new windows user. On my mailserver I have something like 50 or 60 users that use it every day, but none of them are windows users on that machine, they are only created in the mailserver. You cannot do that with the Windows 2003 POP3 Server... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Anders Molin wrote: Windows 2003 Server have built-in both POP3 and SMTP servers <scared voice>Does this mean we can forget about our mail servers? Especially me, since mine is in the pre pre alpha stage.</scared voice>
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: Does this mean we can forget about our mail servers? Especially me, since mine is in the pre pre alpha stage. Well... You made me curious... You didn't started coding your mail server thinking it was the first one on Earth, right? And there are lots of free ones, too. I deduce probably your mail server has some feature targeting a specifc niche that other mail servers don't have. So, how would this change on your plans? My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
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I tried installing IIS 6 on XP Pro, to put it simply I was given the option to retreat or the self destruct sequence would start. I decided to try my luck on self destruct. Long story short the self-destruct crashed after deleting it self and the possibility of installing IIS 5 on XP without a little "tweaking". Matt
Matt Newman wrote: I tried installing IIS 6 on XP Pro, to put it simply I was given the option to retreat or the self destruct sequence would start. I decided to try my luck on self destruct. Long story short the self-destruct crashed after deleting it self and the possibility of installing IIS 5 on XP without a little "tweaking". IIS 6 now runs at kernel level, and uses several new Windows 2003 APIs. It wouldn't work. My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
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Matt Newman wrote: I tried installing IIS 6 on XP Pro, to put it simply I was given the option to retreat or the self destruct sequence would start. I decided to try my luck on self destruct. Long story short the self-destruct crashed after deleting it self and the possibility of installing IIS 5 on XP without a little "tweaking". IIS 6 now runs at kernel level, and uses several new Windows 2003 APIs. It wouldn't work. My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
Daniel Turini wrote: IIS 6 now runs at kernel level, and uses several new Windows 2003 APIs. It wouldn't work. That explains alot, I wasn't expecting it to work, but I thought I would give it a shot. Matt
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Rohit Sinha wrote: Does this mean we can forget about our mail servers? Especially me, since mine is in the pre pre alpha stage. Well... You made me curious... You didn't started coding your mail server thinking it was the first one on Earth, right? And there are lots of free ones, too. I deduce probably your mail server has some feature targeting a specifc niche that other mail servers don't have. So, how would this change on your plans? My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
Daniel Turini wrote: You didn't started coding your mail server thinking it was the first one on Earth, right? No, but if one comes integrated with Windows itself, people might have little incentive to look elsewhere. Yes, there are free ones out there too. I got into all this knowing fully well what I was getting into, so yes, I should not get too disturbed over this. It doesn' change my plans, except hurry up a bit. ;)
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa