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  • Z ZurdoDev

    TNCaver wrote:

    What would you do in this situation?

    Look for a company that appreciates people. If you have 15 years experience then a simple 5 minute conversation should be enough to find out if you know what you claim to know. It sounds like the company may be too big and has to follow a ton of silly rules and procedures and that may be a glimpse of what it will be like working there. But, if you are interested, I would just put NA in the fields. If they think that lowers your value then you don't want to work for them anyway.

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    raddevus
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    ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

    Look for a company that appreciates people.

    :rolleyes: 7 years later... (see image - much better) https://i.stack.imgur.com/GQjxQ.png[^] Actually took me 15 years and about 7 companies. Did find one though.

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    • T TNCaver

      I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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      raddevus
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      1. Imagine you owned the company you are interviewing for and you're interviewing a programmer. 2. Imagine you knew that the code is a representation of the actual business itself -- via business processes, etc. 3. Imagine that when the developer wrote the code that s/he would own a part of the business itself via owning the business processes it represents. 4. Imagine that the developer could walk out at any time leave behind a mess of business process behind that some other poor unfortunate would have to maintain. 5. Imagine your business might lose time, customers, and/or money because of that. Now, what questions would you ask? :laugh:

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        TNCaver wrote:

        What would you do in this situation?

        Look for a company that appreciates people. If you have 15 years experience then a simple 5 minute conversation should be enough to find out if you know what you claim to know. It sounds like the company may be too big and has to follow a ton of silly rules and procedures and that may be a glimpse of what it will be like working there. But, if you are interested, I would just put NA in the fields. If they think that lowers your value then you don't want to work for them anyway.

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

        If you have 15 years experience then a simple 5 minute conversation should be enough to find out if you know what you claim to know.

        The only problem is that the interview done by HR...

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        • T TNCaver

          I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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          dandy72
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          What everybody else said. Don't try to "cover up" the fact that you've never used GitHub until now - the full history, with dates, is available, so they'll be able to tell you've hurriedly thrown something together for them to look at. I'd have no problem telling any potential employer I don't have a GitHub account. Or that I used to have one at a previous employer...but that code is theirs.

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          • T TNCaver

            I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Simply point them to the articles you have written for CP. Or tell them that you sell your code - how much are they willing to pay for it?

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            • D dandy72

              What everybody else said. Don't try to "cover up" the fact that you've never used GitHub until now - the full history, with dates, is available, so they'll be able to tell you've hurriedly thrown something together for them to look at. I'd have no problem telling any potential employer I don't have a GitHub account. Or that I used to have one at a previous employer...but that code is theirs.

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              TNCaver
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              Oh, I use GitHub for work, just not for personal code. Otherwise, yeah, I agree.

              If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                TNCaver wrote:

                unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time

                Er hum, cough. never. I only do it if someone is paying. Cant stand bloody computers.

                TNCaver wrote:

                proprietary code I've written for my current employer

                You should still keep your own library of code, so you can cut and paste it into new projects, then charge the client full whack for doing sod all. Use that.

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                TNCaver
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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                I only do it if someone is paying

                Me too. Coding at home would be like a dentist going home every night and practicing on his family and friends. I don't deal with clients. I have never worked for a code-for-hire shop (and don't plan to start now). I code for the needs of the company I work for, their web site, their intranet, their windows services, and now, their Salesforce implementation (yuck, and one of many reasons I'm leaving after 17 years here).

                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I guess being honest and saying you don't have any non-proprietary code to show them, but that you've spent the last 15 years writing code about 8 hours a day so that you probably know what you're doing, is out of the question? :rolleyes: I should say I know people who did that too and they are horrible programmers X|

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                  TNCaver
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                  That's probably what I'll end up doing, though. I'm not a horrible programmer, I don't think I would have lasted 30 years in the biz if I wasn't at least decent at it (15 years is just how long I've been doing .NET).

                  If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                  • G GuyThiebaut

                    Tell them what you have told us. If you are really keen on getting the job, you could also suggest that they set you a small project that would take no longer than a day to code then send back the resulting code to them. I say this because I really dislike coding tests in interviews and have always done really well when I am set something in advance that I can then be questioned about during interview.

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                    TNCaver
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                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                    you could also suggest that they set you a small project that would take no longer than a day to code

                    I like that idea. I'll float it at them and see what happens.

                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Simply point them to the articles you have written for CP. Or tell them that you sell your code - how much are they willing to pay for it?

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                      TNCaver
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                      Er, I come to CP to read the buggers, not write them. :laugh:

                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                      • T TNCaver

                        I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                        Gary R Wheeler
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                        I have a "portfolio" that includes code I've written for my employer and from my outside projects. I don't have any qualms about sharing bits and pieces of code from my employer, as it is only intended to illustrate my programming style.

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                        • T TNCaver

                          I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                          dan sh
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                          I too do not have a GIT (yuck) repository. However, I do share my CP profile if someone wants. Apart from this I have a library of things that I simply copy and paste to applications I work with. For instance, encryption utilities, hashing utilities, basic REST API scaffolding. If they are hell bent and you too are for the job, I might just dump it all somewhere and share.

                          "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                          • T TNCaver

                            I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                            Rage
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                            Tell them you would show them after they showed you some examples of people they hired in their hobby time. If you have to prove how much you like your job outside of work hours, then HR should at least do the same for you.

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                            • T TNCaver

                              I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                              If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                              JambeDuSinge
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                              I recently was asked to sit a sit a proprietary test at hackerrank [^]. I didn’t get around to it yet but I found that the training section has some good, short challenges that might be a good way of demonstrating your coding style and approach without the tedium of running your own project. Good luck!

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                              • T TNCaver

                                I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                Nebojsa Kurjakov
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                                I've tried rewriting some of my code, but ended up telling the people that interviewed me that all of my work is done for a client and that I'm not able to share it with 3rd party. To my surprise, they were happy enough with my answer and told me that even they don't have it. Keep in mind that for this to work, you will have to make good impression in the rest of the interview process.

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                                  Simply point them to the articles you have written for CP. Or tell them that you sell your code - how much are they willing to pay for it?

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                                  glennPattonWork3
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                                  I did that,:thumbsup: got the job!:cool:

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                                  • T TNCaver

                                    I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                    In this case I think I would * try to find code from my current job unrelated to business logic, more like library utilities, print it, and say that you cannot leave it with them * talk to the interviewer on the phone about my predicament. Chances are, you are up against hordes of kids with github repos galore. It could happen that they are spoiled with easily comparable candidates... I was 52 when I got my current job, I think without my github I wouldnt be here.

                                    ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                                    • T TNCaver

                                      I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                      F ES Sitecore
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                                      1. Create a repo on GitHub 2) Upload the following project

                                      public class Program
                                      {
                                      static void Main(string[] args)
                                      {
                                      Console.WriteLine("Hello, world!");
                                      }
                                      }

                                      1. Include it in your application 4) Profit
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                                      • T TNCaver

                                        I've received an email from a prospective employer inviting me to set up a job interview. A note at the end requests a link to my GitHub code repo or sample code/projects prior to the interview. I don't have a personal GitHub repo or code samples because, unlike probably most here, I no longer do programming as a hobby on my own time. Everything I've done in the last 15 years that the interviewer would be interested in is proprietary code I've written for my current employer, and I don't feel comfortable sharing that outside the company, even though the two industries are not related by any stretch of the imagination, so they wouldn't be able to benefit. What would you do in this situation? Rewrite some of your code to remove any hints of its purpose or value to your employer? Write new code?

                                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                        Member 11261991
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                                        Do not, under any circumstances, give any code for a previous employer. Doing that is asking for trouble and may even be a trick question to see if you are reliable security person. If they cannot assess your abilities from the interview ,this does not speak highly for the company you applied to. If the interview went without anyone fron the SW Dept. being present is also a bad indicator. all in all, probably a bad employer.

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                                        • T TNCaver

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          I only do it if someone is paying

                                          Me too. Coding at home would be like a dentist going home every night and practicing on his family and friends. I don't deal with clients. I have never worked for a code-for-hire shop (and don't plan to start now). I code for the needs of the company I work for, their web site, their intranet, their windows services, and now, their Salesforce implementation (yuck, and one of many reasons I'm leaving after 17 years here).

                                          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                          kalberts
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                                          That is like a truck driver who doesn't own a car but walks to the supermarket and the movie theater. (Which is a good thing to do, but it might take the entire evening to get there.)

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