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  • Z ZurdoDev

    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

    so it's naive to think it wouldn't be a slippery slope.

    The difference is we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns. So, yes, as I stated it could be a slippery slope but because of the Constitution, I don't think it actually would be.

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    F ES Sitecore
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    We had laws that allowed people to own guns. What's the difference? Oh right...constitutions can't be amended so the second amendment can't ever be undone :doh:

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      Define an assault weapon.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      • F F ES Sitecore

        We had laws that allowed people to own guns. What's the difference? Oh right...constitutions can't be amended so the second amendment can't ever be undone :doh:

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        ZurdoDev
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        It's OK if I disagree with you, right? I'm OK if you disagree with me.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

          so it's naive to think it wouldn't be a slippery slope.

          The difference is we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns. So, yes, as I stated it could be a slippery slope but because of the Constitution, I don't think it actually would be.

          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Pualee
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          Not own guns... but rather bear arms. Consider the difference between a gun (sporting/hunting) and arms (military weapons). Just saying, you are redefining the Constitution for your own agenda and thinking that is not a slippery sloe. The same thing is being done with Freedom of Religion being redefined, and even Freedom of Speech.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            F-ES Sitecore wrote:

            so it's naive to think it wouldn't be a slippery slope.

            The difference is we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns. So, yes, as I stated it could be a slippery slope but because of the Constitution, I don't think it actually would be.

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            Pualee
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            Not own guns... but rather bear arms. Consider the difference between a gun (sporting/hunting) and arms (military weapons). Just saying, you are redefining the Constitution for your own agenda and thinking that is not a slippery sloe. The same thing is being done with Freedom of Religion being redefined, and even Freedom of Speech - both of which are much more important to me. But I am not naive enough to think the whole issue isn't related.

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              Define an assault weapon.

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              HobbyProggy
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              It's when "The ting goes skrrrahh, pap, pap, ka-ka-ka Skibiki-pap-pap, and a pu-pu-pudrrrr-boom Skya, du-du-ku-ku-dun-dun Poom, poom" Then it's an assault rifle.

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              • P Pualee

                Not own guns... but rather bear arms. Consider the difference between a gun (sporting/hunting) and arms (military weapons). Just saying, you are redefining the Constitution for your own agenda and thinking that is not a slippery sloe. The same thing is being done with Freedom of Religion being redefined, and even Freedom of Speech - both of which are much more important to me. But I am not naive enough to think the whole issue isn't related.

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                ZurdoDev
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                Pualee wrote:

                you are redefining the Constitution for your own agenda

                How so? And I'll pay you $100 if you can tell me what my agenda is. :doh:

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  Assault weapons need to be illegal, period. Let's at least start there. And no, it's not a slippery slope, at least I hope not.

                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  Le centriste
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                  I think that if the 18th century constitution writers could have foresee the kind of weapons we have to day and mass shootings, the second amendment would probably be very different, if there at all.

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    It's OK if I disagree with you, right? I'm OK if you disagree with me.

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    F ES Sitecore
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                    It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about what is factually correct. You seem to be implying that because it is in the constitution it can't be undone. I'm simply tell you that is wrong. Nothing to do with opinions. The prohibition of alcohol was a constitutional amendment which was then undone by a subsequent one.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Assault weapons need to be illegal, period. Let's at least start there. And no, it's not a slippery slope, at least I hope not.

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      realJSOP
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                      No such thing as an "assault weapon". And of course, you're wrong about both banning them, and that it won't be a slippery slope.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      • L Le centriste

                        I think that if the 18th century constitution writers could have foresee the kind of weapons we have to day and mass shootings, the second amendment would probably be very different, if there at all.

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        The Centrist wrote:

                        if there at all.

                        It would definitely be there but possibly altered some.

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                          den2k88
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                          I thought that was "torture"

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                          • F F ES Sitecore

                            It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about what is factually correct. You seem to be implying that because it is in the constitution it can't be undone. I'm simply tell you that is wrong. Nothing to do with opinions. The prohibition of alcohol was a constitutional amendment which was then undone by a subsequent one.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                            You seem to be implying that because it is in the constitution it can't be undone.

                            Nope. Not at all.

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              It's when "The ting goes skrrrahh, pap, pap, ka-ka-ka Skibiki-pap-pap, and a pu-pu-pudrrrr-boom Skya, du-du-ku-ku-dun-dun Poom, poom" Then it's an assault rifle.

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                              den2k88
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                              You mean I could be banned after I eat beans??!?

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                so it's naive to think it wouldn't be a slippery slope.

                                The difference is we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns. So, yes, as I stated it could be a slippery slope but because of the Constitution, I don't think it actually would be.

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                realJSOP
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                                ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns

                                The Constitution doesn't allow anything. It's purpose was to limit the powers of the federal government. The states wouldn't ratify the Constitution unless certain rights were enumerated (again, these rights are intended to limit the federal government).

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  No such thing as an "assault weapon". And of course, you're wrong about both banning them, and that it won't be a slippery slope.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  No such thing as an "assault weapon".

                                  Explain further.

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  hat it won't be a slippery slope.

                                  Even if it is, would you rather continue to have more mass shootings then? Do you have a solution? What is more likely, that our government will turn on its citizens or that another mass shooting will take place?

                                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  • Z ZurdoDev

                                    The Centrist wrote:

                                    if there at all.

                                    It would definitely be there but possibly altered some.

                                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    Le centriste
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                                    Contrary to popular belief among far-right, gun-nuts conservatives, gun control is not about removing the second amendment or to take away their guns. This has been explained a lot.

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                                      ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                      we have the Constitution that allows the right to own guns

                                      The Constitution doesn't allow anything. It's purpose was to limit the powers of the federal government. The states wouldn't ratify the Constitution unless certain rights were enumerated (again, these rights are intended to limit the federal government).

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      ZurdoDev
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                                      potato potato :rolleyes:

                                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      • L Le centriste

                                        Contrary to popular belief among far-right, gun-nuts conservatives, gun control is not about removing the second amendment or to take away their guns. This has been explained a lot.

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                                        ZurdoDev
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                                        The Centrist wrote:

                                        Contrary to popular belief among far-right, gun-nuts conservatives, gun control is not about removing the second amendment or to take away their guns. This has been explained a lot.

                                        OK? Was this a reply to my comment? I'm not seeing the connection.

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          The Centrist wrote:

                                          Contrary to popular belief among far-right, gun-nuts conservatives, gun control is not about removing the second amendment or to take away their guns. This has been explained a lot.

                                          OK? Was this a reply to my comment? I'm not seeing the connection.

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          Le centriste
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                                          Me neither :laugh: :laugh: Didn't get my coffee yet.

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