What OS do you use at work / home?
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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MacOSX. Managing Linux servers for clients it does what I need: 1) easy to use interface 2) I can ssh into/from it from the moment it is installed 3) the Windows VMs on it does the bits I don't yet have native on MacOSX 4) M$ "supports" it well enough for Office & RDP stuff. 5) Most "apps" have Mac support before Linux ;( 6) I did mention: "It just work(tm)" for me.... other than when I HAckintosh things :D
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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For more than ten years, from the late 1990 to about 2010, I felt a "professional obligation" to run Linux at home (next to Windows). Actually, even though our main OS at work was Solaris (ie. Unix for Sun computers) our employer would not to support Linux at home: Maintenance and administration tended to require so many work hours that "home office days" brought far less results than for those who stuck to the rather problem free Windows (as long as you play by its rules, and refrain from forcing it). Nevertheless, RH 5.x arrived with the promise of almost maintaining itself. So I went for it. And spent an unbelivable amount of time to intstall it, make it run, make it access my peripherals, ... I was myself a professional software guy, using Solaris at work, and when I cannot make it work, how can Linux guys (at that time, Linux guys were still not quite mature youngsters, not like serious workhorse Unix guys) claim that this is end user friendly? I did have RH available for a couple years. Using it for ... nothing. My home needs didn't have the Linux applications. Linuxers all the time claimed that Finally there is a Linux application for this need and that need - try it! I did, again and again, and it failed miserably, again and again. When Ubuntu popularity started growing, strong linux supporters brought me stories that were almost exact blueprints of the RH 5.x stories I had been told ten years later: Now, you just plug it in, and it will run! Just as user friendly as Windows, and with thousands of applications for all imaginable task. Now, people run Linux on their (home) machines for one of two reasons: Either they really want to run Linux, because Linux is fun and modern and robust and ... (and about a hundred other ways to say "the best"). They want Linux because it is Linux. Or, their primary application of their home computer is for tasks requiring software that is only available on Linux (or Linux based software has a significant higher quality). This is often the case at work (more so ten years ago than today): You couldn't get your work done without the Linux software. I sat down considering: I do enough fiddeling around with OSes at work to satisfy that psychological need; the first point doesn't apply to me. At home I just wants to do my thing: Write my stories, edit my videos and mix my sound recordings and produce my DVD movies and CD I do for others. I trace all my expenses in my private accounting system. In my living room, I can run all the IR re
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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At work it's all Microsoft. At home, Ubuntu with VMWare Workstation for those times when I need Microsoft. I like the ease of use and control Ubuntu/Linux provides.
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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Very simply: Windows everywhere but my Android phone. At work we have Linux on many servers and a few people (about 7%) have chosen a Mac. If I want to get work done or I want to play I go to Windows. I can get every tool I need. If I need something special I can make it easily. If I do not like how something in the OS interface works I can make a tool that works around it.
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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When Windows 10 came out and I found out about the tracking, the lack of control of updates, etc, I started dual booting. I first dual booted with Win 10 and BSD. I like the BSD philosophy (designed vs Linuxes evolved) quite a bit but it's not very up to date with new hardware. I then tried dual booting Win 10 and Linux (Mint). So far, I've had no problems with Mint Linux (17.3). I now dual boot my laptops and my desktops. The laptops have Win 10 and Mint Linux. The desktops have Win 10 and Devuan Linux (no systemd). All my general computing needs are met by Linux and Win 10 handles my gaming. I really like the control that BSD and Linux give you versus Win 10. Also, I've had a lot less maintenance issues with Linux then I've had with Windows 10.
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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I'm retired but I use Windows 7 ala Visual Studio 2017 for desktop and web apps. I also do embedded programming on Raspberry Pi using Linux using various methods to create apps. Also embedded on Arduino and there is no OS so I use Atmel Studio which use the Visual Studio Isolated shell. I'm finding learning Linux, after working on other systems for so many years is like trying to feed chopped liver to a baby. You get the baby to digest a little but the most gets rejected.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
I'm with Mike. I am retired from the corporate world as well but still use Windows for all my development endeavors. Since I have a brand new laptop and workstation, both from DELL, both are running Windows 10 with Stardock's, Start10 software, to provide me with a Windows 7 Start/Menu. I have Visual Studio 2015 on my laptop but have moved my work to Visual Studio 2017 on my workstation. I have tried many desktop flavors of Linux in the past, including Ubuntu, and like Mike here, I found it more of a nuisance to work with than anything else. This could mean that Mike and I have become institutionalized over these many years but it also means we know Windows well enough to work with all of its idiosyncrasies and weaknesses... :)
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I'm with Mike. I am retired from the corporate world as well but still use Windows for all my development endeavors. Since I have a brand new laptop and workstation, both from DELL, both are running Windows 10 with Stardock's, Start10 software, to provide me with a Windows 7 Start/Menu. I have Visual Studio 2015 on my laptop but have moved my work to Visual Studio 2017 on my workstation. I have tried many desktop flavors of Linux in the past, including Ubuntu, and like Mike here, I found it more of a nuisance to work with than anything else. This could mean that Mike and I have become institutionalized over these many years but it also means we know Windows well enough to work with all of its idiosyncrasies and weaknesses... :)
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
Yep I agree Started out on DEC VMS and when they went toes up switched to Windows. But I have broke down and got serious about Linux and am determined to learn it well enough to program.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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I use Linux Mint, MATE version on my desktop, server, kitchen and backup computers. I've found that Linux does everything I need so I got rid of Windows many years ago. I like to go the Windows help sites and see all the crap that Windows users are going through. I'm glad I don't have to deal with all those issues. Since this is a programming site I will say that I use Qt for application programming and Python for everything else. If you're not happy with the command line utilities then use Python since there are libraries to do damn near everything.
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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At work mostly Win10 and a little iOS. At home mostly a combination of microwave, freon, and DVR
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Work laptop is win10. Home is win7 and OpenVMS.
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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.
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I use 99% Windows OS. The 1% is running Pi as HT streaming videos to TV. Work: Mainly Windows 7. Company hasn't get around to certified any thing beyond 7 (Security issue). Home: Windows 7 (20%), Windows 10 (80%). Have a laptop (Acer S3) refused to work with Windows 10 and I hate Windows 8, so remain in Windows 7. Development: Visual Studio (Exclusively). VS2017(H + W). At home I also use Atmel's Studio, which is based Visual Studio for embedded micro-controller programming. After 10+ years of exclusive living in command line world (Unix, DOS) I'm tired of it and too old to remember those critics commands and options.
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I'm the complete opposite. Exclusively Windows. 7 as work, company didn't trust anything beyond that yet.
You're lucky.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
OpenVMS
Awesome sauce! Details please!
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Win 10, desktop and tablet - I work at home, so the desktop is mostly work, the tablet is wholly home. In addition, I use an Android Tablet (technically, I have 2 1/2 android tablets - it's complicated) and an Android phone. Win10 still isn't as good as Win7 from a user POV, and it's still an ugly bugger. It's insistence on trying - seemingly increasingly desperately - to make me use Edge is annoying but unsuccessful.
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Windows 10, as our servers have been Windows based. But in the process of swapping all our software (database, languages, GIS infrastructure, tools) over to open source. Some of the tools and packages we use will only run comfortably on linux, so I will be dual-booting / migrating to Ubuntu over time. About the only MS product I am doing anything on anymore is Visual Studio Code (Python dev). MS Office has been switched out for Libre Office, Opera does for email, SQL Server / SSIS / SSRS has been replaced by open source based off PostgreSQL / Python / RabbitMQ.
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That is awesome! Spent a good part of my career in OpenVMS and may still have some opportunities to do so.
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That is awesome! Spent a good part of my career in OpenVMS and may still have some opportunities to do so.
My education and career up until 2002 was OpenVMS. I see no opportunities and I'm not looking for any. Joining the OpenVMS Hobbyist program allows me to keep from getting too rusty.
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My education and career up until 2002 was OpenVMS. I see no opportunities and I'm not looking for any. Joining the OpenVMS Hobbyist program allows me to keep from getting too rusty.
When I started college in 1982, applications were done on punch cards on Apple II computers. However, over the Christmas break, a VAX/VMS system was installed. So, my college days finished out with VAX/VMS. Then, for work, it was at a cereal manufacturing facility working in VAX/VMS - the first two years were rewriting applications from a PDP-11 to VAX/VMS in Fortran and FMS forms; after that, it was develop other system and maintain what was in place. From there, it was a pulp and paper mill maintaining an ERP system on VAX/FMS, also in Fortran and FMS with some C for the check-writing application. In 2011, I switched companies and didn't work with VMS anymore. But... I recently started a new job and in the interview process, I was asked what my experience with OpenVMS was.. so there is hope yet! Even if it is rewriting applications into a Windows environment and shutting down the OpenVMS application.
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I'm with Mike. I am retired from the corporate world as well but still use Windows for all my development endeavors. Since I have a brand new laptop and workstation, both from DELL, both are running Windows 10 with Stardock's, Start10 software, to provide me with a Windows 7 Start/Menu. I have Visual Studio 2015 on my laptop but have moved my work to Visual Studio 2017 on my workstation. I have tried many desktop flavors of Linux in the past, including Ubuntu, and like Mike here, I found it more of a nuisance to work with than anything else. This could mean that Mike and I have become institutionalized over these many years but it also means we know Windows well enough to work with all of its idiosyncrasies and weaknesses... :)
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
All of my professional work, for the last twenty-odd years, has been in the MS stack. Over the course of those years there have been plenty of death marches, or overtime working, from home. So, I'm forced to us MS... in a VBox VM running on linux. Granted, I'm using Ubuntu (and I've upgraded every six months to the latest flavor), but I started way back when RedHat was still a hobby, before it went all enterprise-ey. Eventually, I switched to Ubuntu because I had neither the time, nor the mental capacity, to keep track of all the configuration files and settings of RedHat. I must admit, however, that Visual Studio Code, and .NET CORE, look awfully interesting from a linux perspective. The summit of Mt. Everest is composed of marine limestone.
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I'm the complete opposite. Exclusively Windows. 7 as work, company didn't trust anything beyond that yet.
Wow - a lot of Windows users! Me, I've been OpenSUSE for about 10 years, and mostly Linux since since 1993. After about 2000, other 'nixes (eg Solaris) went by the board. Used Windows (XP/7) from about 2006-2012 as required by some corporate environments I contracted to, but never really got used to them, and happily left them behind :).
