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  • H Hooga Booga

    I watched it all, but didn't like the physics in it. The "blink drive" bugged me especially. "Oh let's plug this chip into our existing drive and all of a sudden we can be anywhere in the universe instantaneously."

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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    Gary Wheeler
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    Hooga Booga wrote:

    "Oh let's plug this chip into our existing drive and all of a sudden we can be anywhere in the universe instantaneously."

    I think it's called willing suspension of disbelief. It sounds like you need to stretch more :-D.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

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      Slow Eddie
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      Third Rock from the Sun, hands down. John Lithgow Is terrific. He was even better in Buckaroo Banzai across the 8th Dimension, my favorite movie. Also look at Repo Man, a close 2nd in the movies category.

      "Newer" is NOT automatically better, only Different. (And more complex and bug ridden when it comes to all of the "boutique" languages / frameworks out there)

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

        Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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        Alan Burkhart
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        If it qualifies, I'd have to toss in Marvel's Agents of SHIELD. SHIELD is/was a huge part of the Avengers, Captain America and Thor franchises and they credibly resurrected Agent Coulson in the TV series. It's up to season 5 and going strong. Aside from Clark Gregg (Coulson), several of the cast from the movies make appearances in the TV series. It's sort of "X-Files meets Mission: Impossible." Great show.

        Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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        • P phil o

          I really like The Expanse, whose third season is planned to air on April, 11th. A story where Earth is confronted to two other entities who arose upon space conquest: Mars, and its military-based society, and the people living in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. If you did not see it yet, you may enjoy it.

          "I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle

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          Alan Burkhart
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          I've seen an episode or two and liked them although they seemed a bit slow. I had forgotten about the show. Maybe I should give it another try.

          Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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            I've seen an episode or two and liked them although they seemed a bit slow. I had forgotten about the show. Maybe I should give it another try.

            Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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            phil o
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            I can get that, the first episodes take their time to install the characters and describe the geopolitical situation of the show. You may enjoy it if you can get past them.

            "I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle

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            • P phil o

              I can get that, the first episodes take their time to install the characters and describe the geopolitical situation of the show. You may enjoy it if you can get past them.

              "I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle

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              Alan Burkhart
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              I believe it's available on iTunes so I may try it again.

              Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

                Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                Steve Naidamast
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                For me, hands down Stargate-SG1 was the best of all the sci-fi franchises produced for television, followed by Battlestar Galactica... Planning on buying the entire SG1 series to see it all over again... :)

                Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

                  Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                  JohaViss61
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                  There is only one: Red Dwarf Never take the future seriously. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

                    Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                    Alister Morton
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                    How "early" do you go with Dr. Who? I barely remember Hartnell, I admit. I saw some of them, but I was young. Some of the Troughton episodes were, for their time, very good and scary - yetis roaming the London Underground system is one I remember well and it was well scary for it's time. Pertwee was a great Doctor, too. That era, with the continuing story of the Brigadier (a descendent of whom appeared in a recent Capaldi episode IIRC), and the story The green death in particular, was a classic. Ice warriors, Silurians, Cyber men, Daleks ... great enemies.

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                    • N Nicholas Marty

                      R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                      Star Trek Star Wars Stargate

                      Wait... These are not the same?

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Star Wars: dumb fantasy for children. Star Trek: documentary of future events. Stargate: the truth about pyramids. :)

                      Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                      • L Lost User

                        What! No one mentioned Tomorrow People? The UK one (70's). And there was; UFO ('70's) Some good Brit Sci Fi. And for the silliness: Lost In Space (70's). (at the time thought Judy was cute and always hoped Dr. Smith or Robot would really obliterate the snotnose Will.) And let's not forget TorchWood - Dr. Who spinoff but grown up and with more action.

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                        Paul Kemner
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                        UFO was a great series. It's unfortunate that Space 1999 replaced UFO season 2. :(( As I remember, the first episode or two of Lost in Space seemed fairly serious. Then they bought express tickets on the crazy train. I like that the galactic currency was the Squandrill. On the anime end of things, Planetes (2003-2004) is more hard SF than space opera, and has a political backdrop that goes beyond the usual cardboard cutouts. Legend of the Galactic Heroes (starting in 1988) is pretty interesting, though since it was an OVA series with zillions of episodes, instead of TV, they did a lot to economize on animation. The author of the books it's based on is a major history fan, and it shows. It features a war between a dictatorial empire that is reforming itself, vs a corrupt democracy. It isn't "Good vs Bad" - both sides have their good and bad points. (It's also a little David Weber-ish -- fleets of hundreds of huge ships obliterating each other.

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                        • S Steve Naidamast

                          For me, hands down Stargate-SG1 was the best of all the sci-fi franchises produced for television, followed by Battlestar Galactica... Planning on buying the entire SG1 series to see it all over again... :)

                          Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          All on Hulu, if you are able to get it.

                          Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                          • A Alister Morton

                            How "early" do you go with Dr. Who? I barely remember Hartnell, I admit. I saw some of them, but I was young. Some of the Troughton episodes were, for their time, very good and scary - yetis roaming the London Underground system is one I remember well and it was well scary for it's time. Pertwee was a great Doctor, too. That era, with the continuing story of the Brigadier (a descendent of whom appeared in a recent Capaldi episode IIRC), and the story The green death in particular, was a classic. Ice warriors, Silurians, Cyber men, Daleks ... great enemies.

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Alister Morton wrote:

                            How "early" do you go with Dr. Who?

                            Early but they are for canon; the more modern Dr Who (especially with Tennant) is the best.

                            Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                              Alister Morton wrote:

                              How "early" do you go with Dr. Who?

                              Early but they are for canon; the more modern Dr Who (especially with Tennant) is the best.

                              Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                              Alister Morton
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                              In the modern "reboot" era, Tennant was excellent, redefined the Doctor. Smith, Capaldi, not as good, which was disappointing. Eccleston had his moments. Tom Baker still takes some beating, mind.

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                                For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

                                Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                                willichan
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                                I can't believe nobody has mentioned Farscape yet. Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  For me, there are really only 4 TV/film sci-fi franchises: Dr Who Star Trek Star Wars Stargate I'm not that keen on Star Wars and some of the early Dr Who is pretty poor. Been watching some early Stargate and it was very good. Which is your favorite? Have I missed any? Honorable mention: Firefly/Serenity. Would have been the best of the best. Sigh. [EDIT] To clarify: I mean shows where there are both TV and film episodes as well as spin-off or secondary series (like Torchwood).

                                  Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                                  Gilles Plante
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                                  Someone watched Heaven (The name of a fictitious town in New England) ? That was mostly quite good, but a few seasons were weak compare to the others.

                                  Gilles Plante

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                                  • A Alister Morton

                                    In the modern "reboot" era, Tennant was excellent, redefined the Doctor. Smith, Capaldi, not as good, which was disappointing. Eccleston had his moments. Tom Baker still takes some beating, mind.

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                                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                                    Could not stand Pertwee or Baker. Hartnell was the best of the early Doctors.

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                                    • C CodeWraith

                                      Sure you have missed a lot, but in this case I don't even know if an English version ever existed: Raumpatrouille Orion[^] The commander notoriously disobeys orders and is a general pain in the rear for his superiors, but gets away with it (most of the time). Too bad they only made eight episodes, more like a mini series.

                                      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

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                                      Bitbeisser
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                                      Orion died because they couldn't match the production speed and spread that Star Trek had, also disadvantaged by being only still in black&white, while Star Trek was done already in color. But liked such small details as the pencil sharpeners as control elements on the flight control panel... ;P

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                                        Orion died because they couldn't match the production speed and spread that Star Trek had, also disadvantaged by being only still in black&white, while Star Trek was done already in color. But liked such small details as the pencil sharpeners as control elements on the flight control panel... ;P

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                                        CodeWraith
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                                        At least they obviously already had ironed out all design flaws. :-)

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          Babylon 5 - hard to find a close second

                                          . . . reverential gap . . .

                                          Dr Who - the early ones (up through Dr. No. 6) (not the '2005' franchise).
                                          - particularly bad are the xmas specials.
                                          Star Trek - as long as we pretend "Voyager, with Captain Mommy" never existed
                                          - also, anything with "Q" sucks, as well

                                          some up-and-comers include:
                                          Preacher

                                          .

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          Bitbeisser
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                                          Well, never been a fan of Dr.Who. And don't think Star Trek Voyager is bad because of a female captain (or little boy Crusher_, but I agree, I don't like that Q character either... In general might also be one of the few people that like both Star Trek and Star Wars. For me, they represent two totally different approaches to life in space. Star Trek as a view as to how humanity could evolve in a couple hundreds of years, with a clear connection of their history back in our current times. Star Wars however is a totally fictitious realm, a long time ago and far, far away, that is from the onset to be a work of fantasy... Babylon 5 wasn't bad, while Battleship Galactica never really caught my attention, Firefly/Serenity was a bit boring...

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