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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

    Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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    Have you watched: Mad Max (1979) The man who fell to earth (1976) Solaris (1972) Westworld (1973) And perhaps a few more from this list: [Rolling Stone](https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/50-best-sci-fi-movies-of-the-1970s-20150114/the-man-who-fell-to-earth-1976-20150113) The Thing and Capricorn One are of course epic must-have-seens, but are they really that good?

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

      Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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      I'm not a sci-fi buff but had a quick look at the list. 2001 on top. Hard to argue with that. I wonder how many other lists Kubrick would top. [edit] Ah alphabetical - well poetic justice.

      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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        so you are the only one whose opinion counts dare anyone suggest your opinion is crap we can go f* ourselves? Oh, but it was "just a bit of fun" so poking fun at your choices is not allowed? Think carefully: WHO IS BEING RUDE? Now I will be rude: GROW UP!

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        No but if you don;t like my list, create your own and don't get personal, which you did. You offer some advice which you'd be good to take for yourself.

        Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

          Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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          I would add Men In Black to my list because I'm unsophisticated, uncultured and found the movie amusing. Some good films on your list though. I haven't heard of a lot of them because I'm not a sci-fi aficionado. Good conversation starter though.

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          • M megaadam

            Have you watched: Mad Max (1979) The man who fell to earth (1976) Solaris (1972) Westworld (1973) And perhaps a few more from this list: [Rolling Stone](https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/50-best-sci-fi-movies-of-the-1970s-20150114/the-man-who-fell-to-earth-1976-20150113) The Thing and Capricorn One are of course epic must-have-seens, but are they really that good?

            ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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            Yup. All good (except Solaris which I did not like).

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              I'm not a sci-fi buff but had a quick look at the list. 2001 on top. Hard to argue with that. I wonder how many other lists Kubrick would top. [edit] Ah alphabetical - well poetic justice.

              Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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              pwasser wrote:

              2001 on top. Hard to argue with that.

              I have never understood why that incredibly over-long boring movie was ever considered a great movie. But I am glad you enjoyed it!

              I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                pwasser wrote:

                2001 on top. Hard to argue with that.

                I have never understood why that incredibly over-long boring movie was ever considered a great movie. But I am glad you enjoyed it!

                I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                Like all significant creative acts it broke new ground. You had to be there.

                Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                  Like all significant creative acts it broke new ground. You had to be there.

                  Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                  Hey - I was 4 when it came out - I was there - I just wasn't - there there. You see? :laugh:

                  I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

                    Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                    Oh come on, Woody Allen Sleeper? Has to be in there, it is classic! Running Man? Dark Star? Silent Running? These are classic si-fi. Good to see District 9 is in your list, one of the best films made of the genre. And just why the hell dont we see more SA films if they can make them this goof? Weird.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

                      Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                      Sunshine, not on your list, but one of my favorites :D Awesome soundtrack as well![^]

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. :-) 2001 28 Days Later 5th Element A Clockwork Orange Alien Back to the Future Blade Runner Capricorn One Dawn of the Dead District 9 Escape from New York Ex Machina Forbidden Planet Galaxy Quest Idiocracy Metropolis Moon Oblivion Pitch Black Planet of the Apes (original) Predator RoboCop (1987) Serenity Silent Running Soylent Green SpaceBalls Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan Star Trek: First Contact Star Wars - A New Hope Stargate Terminator I and II The Andromeda Strain The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) The Man from Earth The Matrix The Omega Man The Thing (with Kurt Russel) They Live Total Recall (1990)

                        Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                        It doesn't specify which Dawn of the Dead. And I rather liked the newer Planet of the Apes movies.

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                          Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more you list Metropolis (barely sci fi) but not Brazil (even though also barely sci fi is way better)? spaceballs? really? How old are your judges? 3? 4? 1. way too many good movies missing obviously because you've never seen them. 2. way too much crap because you've no taste (and just added some you've heard of as being famous but also not ever watched) NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.

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                          Lopatir wrote:

                          Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more

                          My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section. So differentiating is going to be a bit of a problem unless you provide an exact definition. Not to mention that I suspect the vast majority of "science fiction" movies are in fact fantasy in that they are seldom realistic even a little bit as to the science and make vast leaps to tell the story.

                          Lopatir wrote:

                          NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.

                          But it is in fact a list. Of which without your list, one can certainly not compare to validate your claim.

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                            R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                            In your ever so humble opinion

                            And that's my point too, this list is your opinion, it's not "the best."

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                            Lopatir wrote:

                            And that's my point too, this list is your opinion, it's not "the best."

                            Apparently you are unclear on exactly what "best" means in general and most definitely do not understand in the context of this.

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                              Right. Have your judges watch Gravity and Edge of Tomorrow, and then tell me that they aren't on the list because they aren't very good movies.

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                              TNCaver wrote:

                              Have your judges watch Gravity

                              A good movie but rather dull science fiction movie.

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                              and Edge of Tomorrow,

                              Can't say that this is really great. I liked it but I liked the first Transformers as well. Doesn't mean I really want to watch it again though. I needed to look it up just to remember what it was.

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                                Have you watched: Mad Max (1979) The man who fell to earth (1976) Solaris (1972) Westworld (1973) And perhaps a few more from this list: [Rolling Stone](https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/50-best-sci-fi-movies-of-the-1970s-20150114/the-man-who-fell-to-earth-1976-20150113) The Thing and Capricorn One are of course epic must-have-seens, but are they really that good?

                                ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                                megaadam wrote:

                                Westworld (1973)

                                Interesting idea but the execution wasn't that great.

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                                  It doesn't specify which Dawn of the Dead. And I rather liked the newer Planet of the Apes movies.

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                                  jschell wrote:

                                  It doesn't specify which Dawn of the Dead.

                                  2004. Bloody excellent film.

                                  jschell wrote:

                                  And I rather liked the newer Planet of the Apes movies.

                                  The very latest versions are pretty good but looking at the original film - it was brilliant and shocking and very well done with an excellent twist. Based on a pretty good book - Monkey Planet by Pierre Boulle who also wrote Bridge over the River Kwai. Pierre Boulle[^]

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                                    Lopatir wrote:

                                    Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more

                                    My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section. So differentiating is going to be a bit of a problem unless you provide an exact definition. Not to mention that I suspect the vast majority of "science fiction" movies are in fact fantasy in that they are seldom realistic even a little bit as to the science and make vast leaps to tell the story.

                                    Lopatir wrote:

                                    NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.

                                    But it is in fact a list. Of which without your list, one can certainly not compare to validate your claim.

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                                    The subgenre many "science fiction" movies fall into is Space Opera. quote from the wiki article: >...colorful, dramatic, large-scale science fiction adventure, competently and sometimes beautifully written, usually focused on a sympathetic, heroic central character and plot action, and usually set in the relatively distant future, and in space or on other worlds, characteristically optimistic in tone. It often deals with war, piracy, military virtues, and very large-scale action, large stakes.

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                                      Lopatir wrote:

                                      Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more

                                      My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section. So differentiating is going to be a bit of a problem unless you provide an exact definition. Not to mention that I suspect the vast majority of "science fiction" movies are in fact fantasy in that they are seldom realistic even a little bit as to the science and make vast leaps to tell the story.

                                      Lopatir wrote:

                                      NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.

                                      But it is in fact a list. Of which without your list, one can certainly not compare to validate your claim.

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                                      jschell wrote:

                                      My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section.

                                      Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"? Or that they don't have separate sections for "sci-fi" and "fantasy"? I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels. :sigh:


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                                        TNCaver wrote:

                                        Have your judges watch Gravity

                                        A good movie but rather dull science fiction movie.

                                        TNCaver wrote:

                                        and Edge of Tomorrow,

                                        Can't say that this is really great. I liked it but I liked the first Transformers as well. Doesn't mean I really want to watch it again though. I needed to look it up just to remember what it was.

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                                        There are an extremely few movies I care to see more than once. EoT is one of them.

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                                          jschell wrote:

                                          My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section.

                                          Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"? Or that they don't have separate sections for "sci-fi" and "fantasy"? I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels. :sigh:


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                                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                                          Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"?

                                          Sorry my response was poorly worded. They have a section that is labeled either just "Science Fiction" or "Science Fiction and Fantasy". So they do not try to differentiate between the two.

                                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                                          I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels

                                          Not sure if I agree with the assertion that it is "smaller'. Certainly a lot bigger than when I first started buying books. That is supported by some numbers that Gardner Dozois presented in the forward to the The Years Best Science Fiction series a number of years ago which did a comparison between total books of all types in the 70s (72?) with the number just is Science Fiction and Fantasy for the year he did the comparison.

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