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    So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

    cheers,

    Super

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      So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

      cheers,

      Super

      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      Lost User
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      Perhaps business casual just = no trainer shoes these days.

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        So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

        cheers,

        Super

        ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        super wrote:

        Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal.

        Formal is short with shirt... I have not suit at all...

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          So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

          cheers,

          Super

          ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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          PeejayAdams
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          Business casual? What's so difficult about it? It's every bit as vague and poorly defined as any spec you're ever likely to be given - as a developer, it should be a very easy concept to deal with!

          98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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          • S super

            So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

            cheers,

            Super

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Presumably it was lunch - maybe it is what they normally wear to work!

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

              cheers,

              Super

              ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              My personal reading of "business casual" would be a button-down shirt, decent trousers (pants) - good jeans or more formal, and proper shoes (no sneakers). A suit and/or tie is definitely not casual.

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                So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                cheers,

                Super

                ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                Lost User
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                last job I worked a while ago we had casual Fridays, jeans and a polo shirt were acceptable. After a while they gave us a company polos - so I wore them every day with khaki's Mon-Thu (and later others followed) and my own polo with jeans on Friday. Occasionally the boss might mention for a first client meeting to wear "a shirt" - which was code for business pants and a long sleeve business shirt and a tie. No jacket though - rare in Singapore except for directors, lawyers, all Japanese office workers and visitors who don't know any better - which is sensible in the heat here. "Business casual" here is definitely no more then the company polo with khakis. After Japan the place I see business jackets most worn is Aus (even more than UK/USA), and really no idea why they will even walk around in 40+ degree Melbourne dry heat wearing the damn things; yes I know they're a backwards lot but that's just insane.

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                  So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                  cheers,

                  Super

                  ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  ... as a minimum.

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                  • S super

                    So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                    cheers,

                    Super

                    ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                    Nathan Minier
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                    Unless I get parameters, I assume that just means not to wear flip flops and a &%@# You t-shirt.

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                      So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                      cheers,

                      Super

                      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                      Slacker007
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                      Sounds like you were correct, and they were wrong.

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                      • S super

                        So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                        cheers,

                        Super

                        ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                        dandy72
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                        Maybe "business casual" has different definitions from different decades. Besides, if it's just a get-together with coworkers and no customer/client/prospect - who cares?

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                          So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                          cheers,

                          Super

                          ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                          Maximilien
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                          You can never be over-dressed in these situations. For me, I would step it up. I'd wear a clean cut jeans (not everyday jeans), nice tucked in long sleeve shirt and nice shoes; optional a sport jacket or nice cardigan. If I was in a business where a business suit was the norm, I'd step it down with, a nice pair of pants, shirt (no ties) and shoes.

                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                            So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                            cheers,

                            Super

                            ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            We are supposed to be business casual. For me that means jeans and polo or t-shirt. If what I wear is more important than the work that I do, then I'm at the wrong company.

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                              So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                              cheers,

                              Super

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                              Dr Walt Fair PE
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                              If you show up to a business casual event in a suit, just take off your pants, that will look casual and you'll get the business you deserve

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                                So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                                cheers,

                                Super

                                ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                RJOberg
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                                So, my idea of business casual is dress pants, belt, a nice shirt, no tie, and nice shoes. But if the event were during work hours any day but Friday, I'd likely show up in a suit, even if you told me business casual. That's because I wear a suit 4 days a week and Friday is my "casual" day in which I wear a quality pair of jeans, dress shoes, button up long sleeve shirt, a jacket, and sometimes even a tie. Compared to some people I know, my casual day is more formal than their opinion of being dressed up. That is because of the customers I see on a day to day basis. I always need to look professional. If it was stressed that I should not overdress because of whatever reason, I'd likely ditch the tie and jacket at my desk. Otherwise, I'm wearing a suit and making you feel awkward. ;P

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                                  So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                                  cheers,

                                  Super

                                  ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                  Kirill Illenseer
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                                  Depends on where you work, I suppose. "Busoness casual" is, following the usual usage of those terms, an oxymoron and thus undefined. And "undefined" means that it means whatever whoever runs the place means.

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                                    So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                                    cheers,

                                    Super

                                    ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                    tom1443
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                                    For me it's jeans and T-shirts every day, regardless of their policy. It has been since I started work in 1983. Formal attire is when the T-shirt isn't stained. It just goes well with the pony tail and Snuffy Smith beard.

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                                      So Yesterday , we had a small function from Workplace which was celebrating a successful product launch and completion for 5/10 years of few employees etc. The main idea was a informal meeting of colleagues and good food. The invitation said "Business Casual". Well When I arrived at the venue, I was one of the 3 guys who were in Business casual. Kakhi pants/ Long sleeve shirt or similar lines. Rest of the people were in suit and 100% formal. So my question is Business casual too much fuss? Or formal suit is also considered business casual?

                                      cheers,

                                      Super

                                      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                      Greg Lovekamp
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                                      Like so many things in the world today, people like to keep it ambiguous to "keep options open". Most events I have been to state "business casual", and the majority are always dressed "business attire" (suits). Generally, those are the folks who "try harder" to make a good impression. Generally, the nearer one is to the end of his career, the less dressed up he gets; while the younger, aggressive types dress fancier. It truly depends on how much desire exists to impress others. Most sources agree on many things, however. Jeans are not acceptable, nor are t-shirts. Pants should be neat and pressed, Khakis are acceptable. Dress shoes. The shirt should be button-down and pressed, but you can sometimes get by with a polo. Tie is optional; jacket is optional. A suit, while not "business casual", does not constitute "formal" either: formal is always tuxedo.

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                                        Like so many things in the world today, people like to keep it ambiguous to "keep options open". Most events I have been to state "business casual", and the majority are always dressed "business attire" (suits). Generally, those are the folks who "try harder" to make a good impression. Generally, the nearer one is to the end of his career, the less dressed up he gets; while the younger, aggressive types dress fancier. It truly depends on how much desire exists to impress others. Most sources agree on many things, however. Jeans are not acceptable, nor are t-shirts. Pants should be neat and pressed, Khakis are acceptable. Dress shoes. The shirt should be button-down and pressed, but you can sometimes get by with a polo. Tie is optional; jacket is optional. A suit, while not "business casual", does not constitute "formal" either: formal is always tuxedo.

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                                        Jim_Snyder
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                                        Greg Lovekamp wrote:

                                        Generally, the nearer one is to the end of his career, the less dressed up he gets; while the younger, aggressive types dress fancier.

                                        This works for me at 63. I wear jeans and a graphics t-shirt and nobody questions me. I work hard and help people every chance I get, so I think personality may also soften any reaction. Even among the young, only supervisors or higher dress for success on Fridays.

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                                          Like so many things in the world today, people like to keep it ambiguous to "keep options open". Most events I have been to state "business casual", and the majority are always dressed "business attire" (suits). Generally, those are the folks who "try harder" to make a good impression. Generally, the nearer one is to the end of his career, the less dressed up he gets; while the younger, aggressive types dress fancier. It truly depends on how much desire exists to impress others. Most sources agree on many things, however. Jeans are not acceptable, nor are t-shirts. Pants should be neat and pressed, Khakis are acceptable. Dress shoes. The shirt should be button-down and pressed, but you can sometimes get by with a polo. Tie is optional; jacket is optional. A suit, while not "business casual", does not constitute "formal" either: formal is always tuxedo.

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                                          Paul Kemner
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                                          Originally a tuxedo was the casual dress option for men. Makes me wonder what will constitute formal wear in the distant future.

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