Refrigerator no longer supported ....
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Even worse would be if the firmware locked the refrigerator door because it's no longer supported.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I just realize that the problem might not come up because the firmware in your smart car will not let you drive until it's updated - a descendant of Windows 10 updates - so, by the time it's through, the refrigerator will be the problem of your decedents and heirs.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I saw this comic[[^](this comic)] in this morning's CP email and it got me thinking about my smart phone and my 4 yo tablet. My last phone is out of support -- no more updates. My tablet is in the same situation (it doesn't help that the battery is on life support and changing the battery resembles a combination of brain and heart surgery at the some time). Let's say I buy a "smart" refrigerator. 3 years (or 5 or 7) from now the vendor says, "sorry, we're no longer supporting that model". Does this mean I need to replace a working refrigerator because I can't update the software? The silliest part of this is the question is valid ...
why you think vendors so keen on iot? If you're 'frigirator's not already telling you it's out of date that will kindly patch that in for you later so you won't miss out. Not only will you have to upgrade but they will suggest and offer you the "best" replacement, ... and if they already have your c-card number they'll make it even easier and save you any bother of deciding when and what to get next.
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I saw this comic[[^](this comic)] in this morning's CP email and it got me thinking about my smart phone and my 4 yo tablet. My last phone is out of support -- no more updates. My tablet is in the same situation (it doesn't help that the battery is on life support and changing the battery resembles a combination of brain and heart surgery at the some time). Let's say I buy a "smart" refrigerator. 3 years (or 5 or 7) from now the vendor says, "sorry, we're no longer supporting that model". Does this mean I need to replace a working refrigerator because I can't update the software? The silliest part of this is the question is valid ...
Why the :elephant: does the world need everything to be smart, to ping you with what you need in the supermarket, I use a bit of paper or the notepad on my phone, why do I need a TV that will connect online, I have a Chromecaste for that. I prefer things uncomplicated by uneeded cleverness. Smart roads why, Smart this, Smart that why? Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.
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why you think vendors so keen on iot? If you're 'frigirator's not already telling you it's out of date that will kindly patch that in for you later so you won't miss out. Not only will you have to upgrade but they will suggest and offer you the "best" replacement, ... and if they already have your c-card number they'll make it even easier and save you any bother of deciding when and what to get next.
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Why the :elephant: does the world need everything to be smart, to ping you with what you need in the supermarket, I use a bit of paper or the notepad on my phone, why do I need a TV that will connect online, I have a Chromecaste for that. I prefer things uncomplicated by uneeded cleverness. Smart roads why, Smart this, Smart that why? Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.
I agree. Who needs an IoT toaster[^], a smart hairbrush[^], a Smart egg tray[^], or IoT flip flops[^]. Fer Elephant's sake! :sigh:
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Why the :elephant: does the world need everything to be smart, to ping you with what you need in the supermarket, I use a bit of paper or the notepad on my phone, why do I need a TV that will connect online, I have a Chromecaste for that. I prefer things uncomplicated by uneeded cleverness. Smart roads why, Smart this, Smart that why? Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.
Hell yeah brother! We just bought a 4k smart TV, a 4k Blu-ray player, and a new home theater receiver, all of which allow connection to the internet. I refuse to do that. My iPad and phone have been pestering me for a couple of months to apply new updates, and I refuse. I'm tired of updates.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I just realize that the problem might not come up because the firmware in your smart car will not let you drive until it's updated - a descendant of Windows 10 updates - so, by the time it's through, the refrigerator will be the problem of your decedents and heirs.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
If you can't use the car or the fridge because they are updating, you may not have any descendants to curse with inherit your IoT devices.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I saw this comic[[^](this comic)] in this morning's CP email and it got me thinking about my smart phone and my 4 yo tablet. My last phone is out of support -- no more updates. My tablet is in the same situation (it doesn't help that the battery is on life support and changing the battery resembles a combination of brain and heart surgery at the some time). Let's say I buy a "smart" refrigerator. 3 years (or 5 or 7) from now the vendor says, "sorry, we're no longer supporting that model". Does this mean I need to replace a working refrigerator because I can't update the software? The silliest part of this is the question is valid ...
Would be nice if you could just turn off the smart portion of any IoT/Smart device and have it function as a normal X. Or better yet, just be able to buy a non-smart whatever! Hybrid vehicles don't suddenly fail when their battery stops holding a charge (at least not yet), the gas mileage they get just drops. Case in point, my currently place of residence utilizes a robotic parking system. It is nice because there is no way for the idiot next to me to ding my car with their doors. It sucks because it goes on the fritz every two or three days, sometimes 5 or 10 minutes and other times for hours! It needs an analog backup for when the "smart" system fails.
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Why the :elephant: does the world need everything to be smart, to ping you with what you need in the supermarket, I use a bit of paper or the notepad on my phone, why do I need a TV that will connect online, I have a Chromecaste for that. I prefer things uncomplicated by uneeded cleverness. Smart roads why, Smart this, Smart that why? Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.
Yep. I work with a guy who has an internet enabled washing machine. I genuinely wish that I was making that up!
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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If you can't use the car or the fridge because they are updating, you may not have any descendants to curse with inherit your IoT devices.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
At first blush, you would be correct. But - on the other hand, one could make good use of their time awaiting completion of the update!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Would be nice if you could just turn off the smart portion of any IoT/Smart device and have it function as a normal X. Or better yet, just be able to buy a non-smart whatever! Hybrid vehicles don't suddenly fail when their battery stops holding a charge (at least not yet), the gas mileage they get just drops. Case in point, my currently place of residence utilizes a robotic parking system. It is nice because there is no way for the idiot next to me to ding my car with their doors. It sucks because it goes on the fritz every two or three days, sometimes 5 or 10 minutes and other times for hours! It needs an analog backup for when the "smart" system fails.
RJOberg wrote:
Case in point, my currently place of residence utilizes a robotic parking system. It is nice because there is no way for the idiot next to me to ding my car with their doors. It sucks because it goes on the fritz every two or three days, sometimes 5 or 10 minutes and other times for hours! It needs an analog backup for when the "smart" system fails.
This also precludes movie companies from making those exciting car-chase-through-the-parking-garage scenes. Automated life is f*ckin boring.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Yep. I work with a guy who has an internet enabled washing machine. I genuinely wish that I was making that up!
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Point, what the heck use is it. The famous 'well, I can tell when the washing is done' can be countered with 'so can I when it stops making sounds' lets not get into the whole thing of some nasty person sitting outside ready to pick up and spoof my IP...
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Even worse would be if the firmware locked the refrigerator door because it's no longer supported.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Even worse would be if the firmware locked the refrigerator door because it's no longer supported.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Even worse would be if the firmware locked the refrigerator door because it's no longer supported.
This is where I was going with this topic. Sure, if the fridge continues to work without support, no biggie. But if it doesn't and the vendor no longer supports it? Let's say the software does something unfortunate, like raising the temperature to 60 F? I lose everything in the fridge, or possibly get sick if I don't realize the problem immediately. [This is also a problem is someone "pranks" me by hacking my fridge and resetting the temperature.] Having a plain 'ole fridge eliminates all these hassles. Being "smart" is an unnecessary "feature" that can break or provide some idiot an opportunity to mess with me.
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RJOberg wrote:
Case in point, my currently place of residence utilizes a robotic parking system. It is nice because there is no way for the idiot next to me to ding my car with their doors. It sucks because it goes on the fritz every two or three days, sometimes 5 or 10 minutes and other times for hours! It needs an analog backup for when the "smart" system fails.
This also precludes movie companies from making those exciting car-chase-through-the-parking-garage scenes. Automated life is f*ckin boring.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
This also precludes movie companies from making those exciting car-chase-through-the-parking-garage scenes.
Funny you should mention that, couple of weeks back someone wasn't paying attention and was still in his car when the system began to park. It takes 8-10 minutes with nothing triggering the bay's sensors for this to occur, so he was distracted in his car for a while. Guy panicked and ended up driving partway off the 'sled' before the elevator started to move back up and lifted the rear of his car. He got out when it was tilted up at almost 45 degrees. Very narrowly avoided being crushed when it slammed down on top of him once it finally slipped off the end of the elevator platform. Car was totaled and it destroyed one of the robots. Took the garage out of commission for almost an entire day. If the elevator were a bit faster, I could see doing a pretty nifty car-chase scene through it with the multiple levels.
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Hell yeah brother! We just bought a 4k smart TV, a 4k Blu-ray player, and a new home theater receiver, all of which allow connection to the internet. I refuse to do that. My iPad and phone have been pestering me for a couple of months to apply new updates, and I refuse. I'm tired of updates.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Hmmm... Of all the nutty stuff mentioned here a TV is the only thing I would LIKE to have connected. It can be quite handy for watching various broadcaster-"play" services, film channels, or even just your home media center or whatnot. Much nicer methinx than cluttering your rooms with Chromecasts, Apple TVs, media computers wired to the TV. Plus an elephantload of remote controls. [The "media centre" if I had one in my home would be zero clutter, it would be a server at the back of a closet :)]
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
This also precludes movie companies from making those exciting car-chase-through-the-parking-garage scenes.
Funny you should mention that, couple of weeks back someone wasn't paying attention and was still in his car when the system began to park. It takes 8-10 minutes with nothing triggering the bay's sensors for this to occur, so he was distracted in his car for a while. Guy panicked and ended up driving partway off the 'sled' before the elevator started to move back up and lifted the rear of his car. He got out when it was tilted up at almost 45 degrees. Very narrowly avoided being crushed when it slammed down on top of him once it finally slipped off the end of the elevator platform. Car was totaled and it destroyed one of the robots. Took the garage out of commission for almost an entire day. If the elevator were a bit faster, I could see doing a pretty nifty car-chase scene through it with the multiple levels.
The "Flippy" robot was taken offline because it was too slow as well.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Point, what the heck use is it. The famous 'well, I can tell when the washing is done' can be countered with 'so can I when it stops making sounds' lets not get into the whole thing of some nasty person sitting outside ready to pick up and spoof my IP...
Well, I did ask him whether it could go upstairs and pick up the washing but apparently it can't. And, let's be honest, it's a brave soul who leaves a washing machine running when they're not around to keep an eye on it. So, yes, I'm kind of stumped as to any purpose other than making life easier for hackers.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Hmmm... Of all the nutty stuff mentioned here a TV is the only thing I would LIKE to have connected. It can be quite handy for watching various broadcaster-"play" services, film channels, or even just your home media center or whatnot. Much nicer methinx than cluttering your rooms with Chromecasts, Apple TVs, media computers wired to the TV. Plus an elephantload of remote controls. [The "media centre" if I had one in my home would be zero clutter, it would be a server at the back of a closet :)]
... such stuff as dreams are made on
megaadam wrote:
It can be quite handy for watching various broadcaster-"play" services, film channels, or even just your home media center or whatnot.
I don't use streaming services, so this is not applicable to me.
megaadam wrote:
Plus an elephantload of remote controls.
I have a single remote that controls all five of my devices.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Hell yeah brother! We just bought a 4k smart TV, a 4k Blu-ray player, and a new home theater receiver, all of which allow connection to the internet. I refuse to do that. My iPad and phone have been pestering me for a couple of months to apply new updates, and I refuse. I'm tired of updates.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
We just bought a 4k smart TV, a 4k Blu-ray player, and a new home theater receiver, all of which allow connection to the internet. I refuse to do that.
You should like this one then. My folks have a Sony[*] 3D TV (from back when 3D was starting to become a craze again). They're not into buying movies, so every once in a while they had a look at one of the built-in apps that showcases the TV 3D's feature. Every few weeks there would be a couple of new short videos. Then at one point after some update the app just disappeared altogether. They haven't watched any 3D content since, except when I brought them one of my own Blu-ray 3D discs (which I have exactly 4 of). [*] Not based on my recommendation - I've been boycotting everything Sony for at least two decades.
