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[solved] Mrs or Ms, sorry if it is a Leslie

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  • L Lost User

    Dear Dominatrix, :laugh:

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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    In that case write nothing and start kissing the boots.

    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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      Dear Dominatrix, :laugh:

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      ;P And what in case the DominMatrix is not invertable, has a determinant of zero?

      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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        How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D

        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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        Try Mr. :rolleyes:

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          ;P And what in case the DominMatrix is not invertable, has a determinant of zero?

          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          You shout "OPTION BASE 1" and get ready for an update.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D

            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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            These days the rules are more fluid. It can depend on whether you know the person, even if you do not know their marital status. Is it someone you work with, would like to work with, or someone outside of work (e.g. bank manager, lawyer, etc.)?

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              Try Mr. :rolleyes:

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              :wtf: it is really an important -non programming questions - . Please answer serious :laugh:

              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                :wtf: it is really an important -non programming questions - . Please answer serious :laugh:

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                Quote:

                Please answer serious

                Who, me? :laugh:

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                  These days the rules are more fluid. It can depend on whether you know the person, even if you do not know their marital status. Is it someone you work with, would like to work with, or someone outside of work (e.g. bank manager, lawyer, etc.)?

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                  Thank you for this, at least one Person who try to help seriously. But what now? Mrs or Ms for a formal letter / mail?

                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                    Thank you for this, at least one Person who try to help seriously. But what now? Mrs or Ms for a formal letter / mail?

                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                    Like I said, it depends on who this person is, and your relationship to her. But I think you should be safe with "Ms".

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                      Quote:

                      Please answer serious

                      Who, me? :laugh:

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                      No, certo non tu :laugh:

                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                        Like I said, it depends on who this person is, and your relationship to her. But I think you should be safe with "Ms".

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                        Thank you very much for clarification. Until now, I used always "Mrs". I hope I did not hurt her with this. Thanks again.

                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                          Thank you very much for clarification. Until now, I used always "Mrs". I hope I did not hurt her with this. Thanks again.

                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                          I think most people are happy if you start with a formal address, even if it is not their preferred choice. I guess you have the same issue in German with Frau and Fraulein (apologies for the missing umlaut(s)).

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                            I think most people are happy if you start with a formal address, even if it is not their preferred choice. I guess you have the same issue in German with Frau and Fraulein (apologies for the missing umlaut(s)).

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                            In German I'm safe (more or less), it will be always "Frau", independed of her status (married or not, what else). "Fräulein" (usually used in past for not married woman) disapeared since at least two decades and is now not very welcome by the young ladies (Fräuleins ;P ) BTW: You are a great help to get me more familar with english

                            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                              In German I'm safe (more or less), it will be always "Frau", independed of her status (married or not, what else). "Fräulein" (usually used in past for not married woman) disapeared since at least two decades and is now not very welcome by the young ladies (Fräuleins ;P ) BTW: You are a great help to get me more familar with english

                              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                              0x01AA wrote:

                              You are a great help to get me more familar with english

                              Thank you. I just wish I could speak as much German (or Spanish or Greek) as you speak English.

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                                How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D

                                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                It's a little complicated, but... If you don't know and she hasn't told you, then I'd start with Ms unless she comments, or says "call me Sue". It's a "marital status neutral" term like Mr, so it's less likely to give any offence.

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                                  0x01AA wrote:

                                  You are a great help to get me more familar with english

                                  Thank you. I just wish I could speak as much German (or Spanish or Greek) as you speak English.

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                                  I always cross compare my words with Google translate :-O Shows, that I'm cheating ;) Also the other languages we speak here, I'm not really great on them. Italian more or less Zero. Even my wife is Italien, misunderstanding (miss understandig) pre programmed :laugh: French I had to learn in School, I Praxis it then and when with our customers, but I don't like really to hear me speaking French (Pronunciation I think ok, but my vocabulary is limes zero) I have no bigger Problems with german/french/Italien... the later two I'm weak. But English!!! it is a big Problem for me. I'm following CCC daily but I never had any clue how to solve it :(

                                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                    It's a little complicated, but... If you don't know and she hasn't told you, then I'd start with Ms unless she comments, or says "call me Sue". It's a "marital status neutral" term like Mr, so it's less likely to give any offence.

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                                    Thank you very much. Does it means Mrs could have been offence?

                                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      Thank you very much. Does it means Mrs could have been offence?

                                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      Probably not - but it's similar to the Frau / Fraulein in German: some ladies object to assumptions of marital status so it's "safer" to use neutral terms. German went all "Frau", English moved more away from "Mrs" to the new "more feminist" "Ms".

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                                        How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D

                                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                        0x01AA wrote:

                                        How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail:

                                        Jane Doe,
                                        It has come to our attention that you want to buy the
                                        Acme Manufacturing Plant and we would be happy to
                                        discuss terms.

                                        Sincerely,

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                                          0x01AA wrote:

                                          How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail:

                                          Jane Doe,
                                          It has come to our attention that you want to buy the
                                          Acme Manufacturing Plant and we would be happy to
                                          discuss terms.

                                          Sincerely,

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                                          A good solution. But name somebody by his/her Name even it is pre/sur is very personal... at least in german speaking europe; I'm aware, we are too conservative :-O

                                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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