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Windows 10 antivirus given AV-test results

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  • J Joan M

    Hi all, I've checked the latest AV-Test results and it looks to me that there is no excuse to get a different antivirus than the one that comes installed with Windows... Given the marks it has, it seems better or equal than most of their competitors in most fields... Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - HOME USER - December 2017 | AV-TEST[^] Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - BUSINESS USER - February 2018 | AV-TEST[^] Anyone here using it? Are you happy with it? Any annoyance? I'm using Bitdefender free now, and though I'm happy with it, from time to time it gets disabled after certain updates...

    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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    Dr Walt Fair PE
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    I've never used anything other than the Windows Defender that comes with Windows. I did try Norton and Mcfee for a short time. They did no better and gave me lots of problems, so I got rid of then after a couple of weeks. Windows Defender seems to do just fine and interefere with fewer things!

    CQ de W5ALT

    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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    • J Joan M

      Hi all, I've checked the latest AV-Test results and it looks to me that there is no excuse to get a different antivirus than the one that comes installed with Windows... Given the marks it has, it seems better or equal than most of their competitors in most fields... Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - HOME USER - December 2017 | AV-TEST[^] Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - BUSINESS USER - February 2018 | AV-TEST[^] Anyone here using it? Are you happy with it? Any annoyance? I'm using Bitdefender free now, and though I'm happy with it, from time to time it gets disabled after certain updates...

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      irenuncio
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      Hi Joan, I use it daily for over 7,000 computers, servers and workstations. Natural replacement for a really obtrusive product (McAfee). Enough protection, transparent, highly integrated, quick. Fairly satisfied with it so far. We changed over to Microsfot Antivirus on 2014-2015. Regards from Spain.-

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I started off with it, but it slugged my computer every afternoon despite being told it could scan at a specific time. Dumping it for Kaspersky got rid of the problem and (once you tell it to elephant the adverts) it's given me no problems. The "country specific" installation and pricing is a PITA though!

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Bruce Patin
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        I was running Kaspersky for a long time on all of my family's computers, then dumped that, because it would still hose the computer unless a person was running games or pulled the plug temporarily to let Kaspersky think you were in low power mode. I haven't seen any options to stop scanning otherwise.

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        • R RickZeeland

          I'm using Windows Defender at work in a development environment with VS2017 and have no issues (so far :-\ ) Before I used AVG which worked fine too once you excluded the VS directories from scanning ...

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          Joan M
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          Nice, thank you for your answer Rick...

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I started off with it, but it slugged my computer every afternoon despite being told it could scan at a specific time. Dumping it for Kaspersky got rid of the problem and (once you tell it to elephant the adverts) it's given me no problems. The "country specific" installation and pricing is a PITA though!

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Joan M
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            Thank you for your answer OG...

            www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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            • G GuyThiebaut

              For peace of mind I also run a Malwarebytes scan once a week(I use the free versionf Malwarebytes).

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              Joan M
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              That is important... yes, but I do that whichever AV is installed... Thank you Guy!

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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              • D dandy72

                The built-in Windows Defender indeed is "good enough" for me not to want to spend money on a commercial AV. The only thing I despise about it is the fact that the AV signature updates are coupled with the rest of the Windows updates. This means that, as I've configured WU to tell me about available updates rather than just going ahead and installing whatever's available, I get prompted to install AV signatures 2-3 times a day.

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                Joan M
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                It is a pity they don't have it separated... :wtf: Thank you for your answer!

                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                • K KarstenK

                  Other AV-software is better and has newer signatures. I also like to have the AV from other than Microsoft. Believe it or not: I use Avast for years now. (it is always and in any tests the top ranks)

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                  Joan M
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                  Yes, usually I would say the same... but the current marks of Microsoft AV in AV-Test look good... Anyway, AVAST seems to be the one to choose from the free ones...

                  www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                  • I iLviiR

                    I'm happy with windows defender, it's enough and relax.

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                    Joan M
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                    :)

                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                    • R Reelix

                      The problem with Windows Defender is that it's a good anti-virus. This may sound strange, but keep in mind that it's ONLY an anti-virus. Got a hijacked browser extension changing your home page and underlining random links? Sorry - That's Adware - "Resolved - Will Not Detect" Got an illicit application that's sending a third party all your key pressed and passwords? Sorry - That's a Trojan - "Resolved - Will Not Detect" A program lurking on your PC that's happily encrypting all your files for a required payment? Sorry - That's Ransomware - "Resolved - Will Not Detect" Yes - Windows Defender is a good Anti Virus - But it's only an Anti-Virus to things that Microsoft specifically classifies AS viruses - Anything else will be specifically ignored. I used to have a list of virustotal links that contained situations where most of the results were "Positive", but "Negative" to Windows Defender since it wasn't considered strictly a virus - Things like this [^] were alarmingly common. You know that wave of Steam viruses awhile back? All negative since they're 'technically' not viruses, but application hijackers (Positive to every other AV though). Here[^] is one of my submission links to one of them - Still marked as "No malware detected" 3 years later... I submitted dozens of samples of known viruses to them (I was doing Malware research for awhile), and almost all of the submissions were "No malware detected", or marked as clean, or some such. NOD32, AVG, Kaspersky, and BitDefender all added the definitions within a week of submission - Windows Defender refused to add most of them due to its super-strict definition of "virus". I currently use NOD32 and am very happy with it.

                      -= Reelix =-

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                      Joan M
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                      Reelix wrote:

                      I was doing Malware research for awhile

                      It seems you know what you are speaking about... I'm using now bitdefender free... It looks nice by the numbers and I'm satisfied with it... I've not been able to find it's specifications though... so not been able to compare it...

                      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                      • R RickZeeland

                        I'm using Windows Defender at work in a development environment with VS2017 and have no issues (so far :-\ ) Before I used AVG which worked fine too once you excluded the VS directories from scanning ...

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                        Stefan_Lang
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                        Interesting. Do you happen to know whether excluding a directory is possible with the free version of AVG? If so, I haven't found it yet.

                        GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                        • S Stefan_Lang

                          Interesting. Do you happen to know whether excluding a directory is possible with the free version of AVG? If so, I haven't found it yet.

                          GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                          RickZeeland
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                          It's possible, see explanation here: AVG Support[^]

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                            It's possible, see explanation here: AVG Support[^]

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                            Stefan_Lang
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                            Thank you very much. That is very helpful! :thumbsup:

                            GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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