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  • L Lost User

    Well the second statement does tend to imply the first. Would a sensible person make a moronic statement?

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    Foothill
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    The probability of a sensible person making moronic comments is proportional to the amount of alcoholic beverages consumed before making said comment. :-\

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    • S super

      During online chat/discussion If make this statement "You are a moron" = That's a personal attack. but then if I say "Your statement is moronic" = Is this still a personal attack or not?

      cheers,

      Super

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      "Your statement is oxymoronic" is better, because it adds an ox doing the moronic statement.

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      • N Nathan Minier

        While I can see where you're coming from, there is a fundamental difference between characterizing a person and characterizing a concept; one is definitely a personal attack and the other is not. Of course if the sum total of a response is "that's moronic", then likely the respondent hasn't spent much time considering the concept and is reacting from a cultural or political dogma rather than a reasoned position. On the other hand, some things are just stupid. Pretty much anything said by a celebrity, for example.

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        Thank you, that actually makes sense. :thumbsup:

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          Thank you, that actually makes sense. :thumbsup:

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          super
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          So should I apologies that I made an personal attack?

          cheers,

          Super

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            The discussion is actually about hypocrisy. The point was that the super portrays himself as someone who's truly nicey-nice, and condemns everyone who displayed even the mildest of aggression in an argument. However, he personally attacked someone and then went on a spree to justify it, and basically reduced it to an English/grammar question.

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            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            However, he personally attacked someone

            Did not.

            cheers,

            Super

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            • S super

              So should I apologies that I made an personal attack?

              cheers,

              Super

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              This thread and all the noise going with it was not started by me or those other users. I never said you should apologise to him, neither did OP (Gandalf) or Chethu. We were merely making an observation, and there's nothing more to it than that.

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              • S super

                During online chat/discussion If make this statement "You are a moron" = That's a personal attack. but then if I say "Your statement is moronic" = Is this still a personal attack or not?

                cheers,

                Super

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                There is a difference between stating someone is something and implying they might be one. Te difference is whether you are correct or not in either or both judgements. "You are a moron." is explicit. To this, I'd say that one must first be or have had been one to know what one is, that being a moron. :laugh: :laugh: "Your statement is moronic." is implicative, that what someone has stated seems it is not valid or justified in a way upon which you are basing your judgement foundations to qualify such. To this, again, I'd say that one must first have said one to know one, what a moronic statement is. More :laugh: :laugh: Both are subjective statements. As such, both are accurate and inaccurate at the same instance. :wtf: :confused: :omg:

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                • S super

                  So should I apologies that I made an personal attack?

                  cheers,

                  Super

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                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                  To quote Sheldon Cooper's mother. I was deeply offended, as a Cristian I should forgive her, as a Texan, I should shoot her, So I split the difference and apologized!

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

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                    I prefer functions with several arguments

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                      I prefer functions with several arguments

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                      I have a wife for that function.

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                      • S super

                        During online chat/discussion If make this statement "You are a moron" = That's a personal attack. but then if I say "Your statement is moronic" = Is this still a personal attack or not?

                        cheers,

                        Super

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                        Doesn't matter. But if you decide to go either one way or to go the other, make sure that you use the same ... idiom ... so the debatee can ascertain your identity.

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                        • N Nathan Minier

                          While I can see where you're coming from, there is a fundamental difference between characterizing a person and characterizing a concept; one is definitely a personal attack and the other is not. Of course if the sum total of a response is "that's moronic", then likely the respondent hasn't spent much time considering the concept and is reacting from a cultural or political dogma rather than a reasoned position. On the other hand, some things are just stupid. Pretty much anything said by a celebrity, for example.

                          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                          Nathan Minier wrote:

                          then likely the respondent hasn't spent much time considering the concept and is reacting from a cultural or political dogma rather than a reasoned position.

                          Stupid is not limited by any ideology. Nor is ignorance.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Well the second statement does tend to imply the first. Would a sensible person make a moronic statement?

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                            jschell
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                            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                            Would a sensible person make a moronic statement?

                            A sensible person understands of course that no one is perfect. Thus even someone who is rigorously sensible might offer an opinion without adequate knowledge, might misunderstand the discussion or might, for some specific topic have a bias that clouds the issue.

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                            • S super

                              has ever been an argument 5 minute long? Just wondering

                              cheers,

                              Super

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                              super wrote:

                              has ever been an argument 5 minute long?

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