What to learn to make some money?
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
FlatAssembler wrote:
So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
Get a job in a field/domain you like. Start at the bottom, learn stuff, get some experience.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Rare to see you promoting JavaScript :-D
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Nish Nishant wrote:
Rare to see you promoting JavaScript
I'm actually growing to like it, but it's also pretty much one of those necessary things to know if you want to be marketable, or at least have more opportunities.
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You don't make money by learning stuff, you make money by trading time and effort for money. So I suggest that's what you do, get a job (or start your own, but I'd recommend getting some experience first). Now I was lucky in that I knew someone who wanted to hire me as a trainee with no former education. If you're not so lucky you're going to have to work a little harder up front so you can show a potential employer what you can do. The problem is no one wants to hire you if you don't have at least x years of experience or a formal degree, but you're probably already better than a lot of people who already have programming jobs. You could learn for years and years and there'll always be something you don't know and you'll never have anything to show to potential employers. So try to get a job, it's the fastest way to learn (and you'll learn things well beyond programming, like politics and how shitty people can be) and the only way to make money from it. One piece of advice though, do something that you love doing, not because it pays well (but try to combine them).
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Well, I've been relatively successful in programming competitions such as the Croatian Open Competition in Informatics (COCI). Isn't that something worth showing to the potential employers, along with that web-app? Or do you think that what I know right now is basically useless?
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Nish Nishant wrote:
Rare to see you promoting JavaScript
I'm actually growing to like it, but it's also pretty much one of those necessary things to know if you want to be marketable, or at least have more opportunities.
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
I agree - it's sort of a must-have on your resume these days :-)
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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Well, I've been relatively successful in programming competitions such as the Croatian Open Competition in Informatics (COCI). Isn't that something worth showing to the potential employers, along with that web-app? Or do you think that what I know right now is basically useless?
I can't really tell how much value your current knowledge is. I'm just telling you that if you want to make money while coding you should find a job where you can put your knowledge to use :) Whether your can sell yourself for minimum wage or €5000,- a month is up to you (and a whole different skill). Just saying that without a formal education (or something else that really stands out) it might be hard to sell yourself at all.
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I agree - it's sort of a must-have on your resume these days :-)
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
I don't quite see why people hate JavaScript so much. In what other programming language can you make a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly in 700 lines of code?
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
Welcome to CodeProject! It's refreshing to see a teenager with some web skills! :) I checked your web-app, but didn't do anything with it, as I have no need for i486 assembly. If you intend to showcase this, you might want to put a little more verbiage there to explain what it does, and how to use it. (a little color wouldn't hurt either) As for how to make some money, you should try for an internship, just be prepared to work for peanuts until you can prove you're worth more. As for skills, others here have given you plenty of ideas. Good luck! :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
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Well, I've been relatively successful in programming competitions such as the Croatian Open Competition in Informatics (COCI). Isn't that something worth showing to the potential employers, along with that web-app? Or do you think that what I know right now is basically useless?
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
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I don't quite see why people hate JavaScript so much. In what other programming language can you make a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly in 700 lines of code?
Some people don't base their preference for a language based on the terseness of the code. That said, I personally think JS is pretty neat but I do not expect everyone else to share that opinion.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
For me assembly, a high-level language (Delphi, in my case, but I speak C# and C++ too) and studying helped. The latter part, styding (this is getting a university degree) helped not for what I studied (physics, really not the same as informatics), but the mere fact that I have a university degree helped big times.
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
Simply: You should just do what you find the most fun! If you have fun you will be more productive and thus excel at whatever you have chosen to do. It also helps your long term mental health to do stimulating stuff. I think it is useful to familiarize yourself with a wide range of technologies. The more stuff you know the easier it will be to pick up more. Welcome to the Lounge, and good luck.
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Oh boy. One of those questions. From my perspective, here's a few suggestions and their reasons. Python -- it is a decent and upcoming language, easy to learn and use, and has a vast library, including AI and learning, implemented in C that it wraps for ease of use. Just google "Python AI" and you'll see a lot of stuff. Everything web -- Javascript, CSS, HTML. Because everything is to be the web. Pick a framework, like Angular, VueJs, etc, and learn it. Though there are hundreds, at least learn one or two to be moderately proficient and have an understanding of MVM / MVC / MVVM / whatever. But most importantly, look at how these things work behind the scenes--that will be invaluable. Learn some database stuff. SQL Server, Oracle, MySql, whatever. Learn the difference between SQL and NoSQL. Data's gotta go somewhere, right? Learn JSON to (which means spend 10 minutes reading about it) because everything is in JSON nowadays, for better or worse. After that, learn some client/server stuff -- whether it's node.js, C#, WinForm, WPF, ASP.NET (yuck), whatever, just to start rounding the corners. Also REST (write your own server and client), WCF (again, write your own server and client) -- learn the pros and cons of each. Learn some functional programming so you at least understand the concepts. F#, Haskell, and/or Scala. Understanding some FP helps you understand the functional aspects of languages like C# and Python. Learn basic Linux. Buy a $5 rPi and play with it (Python is a great language for IoT stuff.) None of this though will help you make money unless you have proven skills at what you're doing, know people that will give you a chance, and have the favor of a minor deity that will put you in the right place at the right time. Set up a shrine and pray to your favorite deity. So, to prove yourself, create a blog, write about interesting things, and create a GitHub account and start creating some projects so people can see your code, your documentation, and how you present yourself. Good, bloody, luck!
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Very well said. I must get asked this same question about a dozen times a week on Quora. Usually it's some lazy arse who failed at school, but doesn't want to be left behind in the $$$$ rich world of I.T, so is looking for the quickest way to get from 0 to $$$$ without any hard work being involved. My reply is the same for both the Lazy Arses and the Genuine folks.... Software development is hard, very hard, you seem to have already figured this one out. But there's so much more to it than just learning to "write da coedz", it's about developing communication skills, problem solving skills, deep analysis skills, and so much more. The Languages, the Databases, the IDES & Editors, the Frameworks their all just tools, tools that you acquire and put into your toolbox ready to use. The more you learn, the better the tools you have, and the more knowledge you have of what's best to use and when. There is no shortcut or quick route to earning money, I.T & Software development is a game you play long term, you dont just develop the skills for it over night. Many of us here in CP have been doing this for years, and you know what, ever after all of that time, every day brings something new, every day sees us learning a new skill. All you can do is keep at it, keep practicing, keep learning, and as Marc said previously, get to know folks who might be able to get you a foot in the door. Eventually you will get somewhere, but it's not going to be quick, if you need to earn money now, then the best thing to do is to go flip burgers part time, and keep studying the rest of the time. Once you crack it, you'll be glad you did, but no one on here is going to lie to you about how hard the task ahead of you is going to be.
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I don't quite see why people hate JavaScript so much. In what other programming language can you make a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly in 700 lines of code?
Even Less if you use TypeScript. TS is my preferred route to JavaScript these days. That said, Iv'e been experimenting with Blazor too.... tremendous fun. :-)
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
I would recommend that you lkearn a marketable skill and how to market yourself. For the first item, look at potential job listings and see what employers are seeking For the second a book on marketing from you local library or book storewill serve
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
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Even Less if you use TypeScript. TS is my preferred route to JavaScript these days. That said, Iv'e been experimenting with Blazor too.... tremendous fun. :-)
Don't know, I'm strong type coder, then JavaScripter for couple years and hate it at first(remind me of root beer, hated it on first try), then TypeScript surfaced and use it for large project because it offers strong type. Lately, ditched TS and stick with JS because "Duck type" is so much more flexible. Funny, I actually like duck type more than the strong type now. Don't judge a book by its cover.
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Hey, guys! I'm 18 and I've been trying to learn how to program for a few years. The most complicated thing I've done by myself is a web-app that converts arithmetic expressions to i486-compatible assembly. So, what would you recommend me to learn to be able to make some money?
Things to know to make money. Hmmm... Postscript and Micro-printing? :-D Oh. Oh, seriously? JavaScript + HTML5 + CSS3. If you really serious, C#. Hey I made a decent living for the last 30+ years on them (on C/C++ any way). Try not, Do, or do not, there is no try for couple years. And if you are really, really, REALLY SERIOUS, I don't see any path other than go through a 4-5 years of reputable academic university and get a computer science degree. Period.
