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  • C CodeWraith

    I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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    W Balboos GHB
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    I'm in a strange in-between state. For desktop, I've had nothing but bare-bones for many years. No O/S price to worry about, uninstall, or anything. For laptops, oddly enough, they've all been refurbished. As such, they came with the O/S because it had it on it to begin with. For now, I've been able to hold out for Win7 - but I don't know what the future holds. Maybe I'll just have to give up on laptops?

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    • C CodeWraith

      I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      Most large computer manufacturers appear to offer your choice of O/S these days - Windows, Linux, or nothing.

      Ad astra - both ways!

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      • C CodeWraith

        I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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        dandy72
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        If you're just buying parts individually, no OEM can charge the Windows tax.

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        • D dandy72

          If you're just buying parts individually, no OEM can charge the Windows tax.

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          CodeWraith
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          I always put together my desktops myself. Notebooks used to be a different matter.

          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            I've bought only one PC with a pre-installed OS and I simply wiped the drive and installed what I wanted. No sense wasting effort trying to fight a conglomerate for a pittance.

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            CodeWraith
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            It would not be for the money. If I wanted to give them back their junk, I would only have had to walk down the street to give it to them personally. Now they have moved, but that's also only a 20 minutes' drive away.

            I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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            • C CodeWraith

              I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

              I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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              Paul Sanders the other one
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              I like to build my own (desktop) machines, by buying parts from Ebuyer or wherever. You get what you want that way and I'm generally pleased with what I've ended up with. I bought an off-the-shelf PC for my Father-in-law a few years back and was shocked by the cheap motherboard and shoddy construction. Never again.

              Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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              • P Paul Sanders the other one

                I like to build my own (desktop) machines, by buying parts from Ebuyer or wherever. You get what you want that way and I'm generally pleased with what I've ended up with. I bought an off-the-shelf PC for my Father-in-law a few years back and was shocked by the cheap motherboard and shoddy construction. Never again.

                Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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                CodeWraith
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                Only once I bought a complete PC, never again.

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                • C CodeWraith

                  I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                  Erling Limm
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                  I would never do that, but then again, I like my Windows (10) and it's updates ;) On my new self built desktop, I just transferred the license from the old one. People who request a refund are usually Linux/GNU/FSF/FOSS fans who hate Microsoft, which is sad and childish, but their right of course.

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                  • C CodeWraith

                    I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    rnbergren
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                    two things come to mind when I see this. First, How much time did he spend getting this put together to get $300? I would say at least 6 hours so probably spent $50 an hour. my question is that worth it? It might be it might not be. Second, Why? you want linux just install it and move on and ignore microsoft. looking thru the fine print on the legalize might be fun for someone, but really it would make me tense just thinking about it. I have better things to do, like playing a game with my children or what not. Heck even cleaning the bathroom is a better use of my time than reading that thing. All in all. I fail to see the point. I run alot of linux and some winders. oh well. Just me I guess.

                    To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                    • C CodeWraith

                      I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

                      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                      sasadler
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                      I build my own desktops from components I buy from NewEgg (or some other such places). I'll buy a Windows license on ebay (cheap). My main OS is Linux these days but, I do dual boot with Win 10 just so I can play games. Basically, my real work/computing is done in Linux and Windows 10 is my XBox.

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                      • S sasadler

                        I build my own desktops from components I buy from NewEgg (or some other such places). I'll buy a Windows license on ebay (cheap). My main OS is Linux these days but, I do dual boot with Win 10 just so I can play games. Basically, my real work/computing is done in Linux and Windows 10 is my XBox.

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                        CodeWraith
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                        Games are my last reasons to keep Win7 alive, but not reason enough to endure Win10.

                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                        • C CodeWraith

                          I have bought my last computers without any OS and right now I only have two left with aging Win7 licenses that have been begging me for years to activate them. This way I was punished with being excluded from forced updates to Win10, normal updates (thank god!) or being allowed to have a background image on the desktop. Seriously? I just wonder how many people still must resort to something like this[^] when they buy a new computer. I would do it if I had to and wonder how many really do it.

                          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                          Kirk 10389821
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                          This reminds me of a Drinking buddy who suggested that we setup a company... Whereby whenever you have to install software and click "OK" to the license agreement, we provide someone REMOTELY to click okay, that CANNOT pass a mental sufficiency test, and thereby nullifying the agreement. We laughed, We drank... Then we realized. "Who exactly would let a mentally deficient person remotely access their system?"... In a Dilbert Cartoon... We would be billionaires! But alas, we simply laughed that we could find people/companies, and that people would probably pay just to piss off the big guys...

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                          • S Scott Serl

                            When I bought my Dell laptop last year, they took $100 off of the price when I chose linux instead of Windows.

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                            kalberts
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                            The last Windows box I bought was priced at slightly USD 200. (I paid in NOK, so the exact USD amount depends on the exchange rate of the day. If they would take USD 100 off for the OS, that would have halved the price. I don't think they would have done that. Anyway, in my case, I specifically needed Windows on that machine. But the OEM price for Windows10 is most likely far below USD 100. In other words, your Dell dealer subsidizes Linux. Which is of course perfectly legal.

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