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  • G Gary Huck

    I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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    Scott Serl
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    Anyone with that much experience in MS CRM would either be committed to an insane asylum, or worse. On my short list of "quickly exit the interview" technologies.

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    • G Gary Huck

      I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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      Experience with time travel 10 years.

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      • G Gary Huck

        I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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        W Balboos GHB
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        I used to see similar job offer scenarios back in real life, when I was a chemist. They usually came with a remarkably low salary considering the very specific skills required. If outline in enough detail, only one person on earth will match the specs. They're a scam to get around US immigration laws - primarily used by large business. The H1-B type of visa/work-permit requires the they first look to US citizens before hiring from overseas. It basically allows hiring for a specific job (hence, cannot quit) at low wages and a tax exemption. A win-win for everyone . . . except for US citizens.

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        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          Experience with time travel 10 years.

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          is that 10 years of time travel performed consecutively or concurrently?

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            is that 10 years of time travel performed consecutively or concurrently?

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            yes

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            • G Gary Huck

              I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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              Sander Rossel
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              It seems no skills whatsoever are required to write job postings! :~

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              • G Gary Huck

                I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                dandy72
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                In other words, they probably want someone from Microsoft who's actually been working on those products from their very start. Let me guess - they're also paying about a third of what those people at MS are actually making. How far off am I?

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  I used to see similar job offer scenarios back in real life, when I was a chemist. They usually came with a remarkably low salary considering the very specific skills required. If outline in enough detail, only one person on earth will match the specs. They're a scam to get around US immigration laws - primarily used by large business. The H1-B type of visa/work-permit requires the they first look to US citizens before hiring from overseas. It basically allows hiring for a specific job (hence, cannot quit) at low wages and a tax exemption. A win-win for everyone . . . except for US citizens.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Yes, that is exactly how the scam works. They define very specific requirements that are usually precisely the skill set of the guy they just hired. I have witnessed it first hand. I even compared the description with the CV of a guy one time and they matched. Actually it's also common for government jobs that don't involve an H1-B. It's how they get their niece or daughter-in-law hired. My wife saw that several times last year when she was looking.

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                    Yes, that is exactly how the scam works. They define very specific requirements that are usually precisely the skill set of the guy they just hired. I have witnessed it first hand. I even compared the description with the CV of a guy one time and they matched. Actually it's also common for government jobs that don't involve an H1-B. It's how they get their niece or daughter-in-law hired. My wife saw that several times last year when she was looking.

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                    Rick York wrote:

                    They define very specific requirements that are usually precisely the skill set of the guy they just hired

                    I'm one of those guys except I had been here for 12 years with the same organisation when they delisted the agency I had been using, to change agencies they HAD to advertise the position locally. The ad looked somewhat like that one, not as silly but matched my skill set exactly.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    • G Gary Huck

                      I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                      I bet they are ageist as well. Probably want someone in their 20's to come work at the company.

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        I used to see similar job offer scenarios back in real life, when I was a chemist. They usually came with a remarkably low salary considering the very specific skills required. If outline in enough detail, only one person on earth will match the specs. They're a scam to get around US immigration laws - primarily used by large business. The H1-B type of visa/work-permit requires the they first look to US citizens before hiring from overseas. It basically allows hiring for a specific job (hence, cannot quit) at low wages and a tax exemption. A win-win for everyone . . . except for US citizens.

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Jon McKee
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                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        It basically allows hiring for a specific job (hence, cannot quit) at low wages and a tax exemption.

                        It's so much worse morally. And the exact way it's worse makes perfect sense why corporations use unattainable requirements to hire them even though the H1B employee generally doesn't come close to filling the position requirements. Indentured servitude. You have an employee that can't ask for a promotion because they'll get deported (change of job title which nullifies the existing contract). You can't really ask for a raise (if you get fired for any reason you get deported). And the time it takes to be accepted for a green card can be more than a decade. That means an employee that you don't have to promote, pay more, or worry about them leaving for a decade or more. Take this all with a grain of salt, however, as the topic is so heavily discussed I've been unable to locate the news I've read over the years that backs these claims up. Also I'm not a lawyer so I'm definitely not qualified to wade through the massive amount of legal jargon around the topic. But in addition to personal recollection, I've seen many discussions on other boards where retired people are contacted to fill junior-ish positions with insane requirements (some impossible). What do you think the company did after the senior developer with 20+ years experience turned down the 60k/yr job? They wouldn't spend money hiring if they didn't need it - they H1B'd. Note that I have no issues with the H1B concept but as always happens in a capitalistic society the intent has been distorted to the detriment of the local populace and the H1B employee to the benefit of only the corporations and shareholders.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          It seems no skills whatsoever are required to write job postings! :~

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                          Jon McKee
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                          I have some HR friends/family and have heard two versions of events. 1) The company just wants an H1B so they put ridiculous requirements that no native could meet then H1B the best option that might not even be close in skill to the nearest native. (This also applies to local and non-local applicants; not just H1B since non-local residents aren't in a favorable bargaining position either). 2) HR has no idea what any of the jargon means so they request a senior or manager for specifics. That senior/manager has deadlines to meet, sees this as a waste of time, and just rambles on about what they'd like in a candidate; not what's actually needed or feasible. This leads to a cacophony of problems that just ends in tons of wasted time and no results.

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                            I bet they are ageist as well. Probably want someone in their 20's to come work at the company.

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                            Jon McKee
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                            Seeking: Early 20s, 10 years of experience in AWS, 15 years experience in C#, must know all design patterns, architectural styles, and an advanced understanding of optimizing the .NET runtime. (Surprisingly not far off from a job posting I saw last year. Basically just remove the age requirement - though to be fair they hinted strongly at that.)

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                              Well, given that MS Dynamics didn't even become available until 2012, it will be another few years before anyone can fill the position.

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                              Not so, I got my MCSE in Dynamics in 2008. In fact I wouldn't be far off meeting all these requirements - if I hadn't retired 5 years ago :)

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                              • G Gary Huck

                                I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                Stefan_Lang
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                                I've discussed these kind of requirements with various people in the know, including some who are actually responsible for these kind of requirement lists, and it seems that most are well aware that it's extremely unlikely, if at all possible, for anyone to fulfill all requirements. However, apparently there are still enough applications from people who barely fulfil half the requirements - in part - to make this meaningless. Seems like the contest between job offerings and job applications nowadays is all about who can be more unrealistic ... :doh:

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                                • G Gary Huck

                                  I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                  danmorin
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                                  Don't go work for such a brain dead bureaucratic organization. Once brother had a similar requirement asking for 10 years of .NET experience, while .NET was only 4 years old. When he pointed out this impossibility, the HR people said that they always require 10 years of experience of everything.

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                                  • G Gary Huck

                                    I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                    Hernan Breinbauer
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                                    Nooooo. I Just hapend to know someone who knows someone with 9.9999 years of experience. To bad.

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                                    • G Gary Huck

                                      I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                      I am sure they are paying full price for those 10 years of experience as well

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                                      • G Gary Huck

                                        I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                        Employers usually make a big mistake when looking for software developers with specific skills like this (besides the mistake of what happens when HR-types get ahold of the requirements and create a mess like the stuff above). Why? Because seasoned professional developers can adjust to learning any specific implementation. In addition, today's requirements are not going to be the same as they will be in five years. So if the person hired today is a SME on today's version of a given implementation (e.g. MS Dynamics), that does not mean they can adapt, learn, and overcome the challenges of changing technology. Today's "hit the ground running" employee may be next year's befuddled employee when technology changes. It is wiser to look for the experienced software developers or IT folks that have demonstrated they can be productive in a changing technology landscape. In my career, I have worked productively operating nuclear power plants, industrial automation (HVAC and central energy plants programming and system design), boiler manufacturing (software for estimating boiler COGS), Medicaid cost reimbursement (software for auditors), general consulting, private telephone systems (software to monitor servers and processes using SNMP and WMI), transit software, web site builder systems, financial system software, medical information software systems, and a few other other lesser and sundry vertical markets. Yes, it has been a long career. :) But if you want to hire and retain the best for the compensation you are offering, look for the seasoned developer who can adapt (even if they have zero experience in your specific system) and for the less seasoned who are teachable. If you are looking for throw-away hirelings where loyalty is neither given nor expected in return, then specifics like the OP had make sense - but should reflect some degree of accuracy.

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                                        • G Gary Huck

                                          I'm sure lots of us receive job postings from many recruiters. I just thought I'd post this one because it made me laugh. 10 years minimum required for many, *very* particular skills?! Let me know if anyone on the planet would qualify. I'll be happy to send the original post if you want to respond :) Skills Required Demonstrated experience working with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform (current versions preferred) Required 10 years Experience designing, developing and managing multiple enterprise level CRM applications Required 10 years Experience creating web services for enterprise MS Dynamics CRM Online applications Required 10 years Experience with CRM data replication to Microsoft SQL Server Required 10 years Experience with bi-directional integrations with multiple source systems. Required 10 years Experience with GIS integration with MS Dynamics Online CRM Platform Required 10 years Experience with batch document scanning and storing those images in Azure Blob Storage Required 10 years Must have enterprise application experience in setting up security roles for multi-level (county/state or similar) agencies. Required 10 years

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                                          Leng Vang
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                                          Public company, they already had someone in mind ready, just a requirement to advertise to public. The company probably have many departments but could not easily move employee around. Any way, even Amazon's one doesn't even mention any language or technology. And this is to work on Alexa's Engine. Post below if anyone interested. Recruiter info: Brian Harwood | Sr Technical Recruiter (Alexa Engine) | Amazon E: harwoodb@amazon.com P 608-276-3226 ========== Software Development Engineer Alexa is the Amazon cloud service that powers Echo, the groundbreaking new Amazon device designed around your voice. We’re building the solutions that will make interactions with Alexa more natural and more productive. We’re working hard, having fun, making history; come join us! As a member of the Alexa Engine team you will be responsible for the development and launch of core product features, including how customers engage with and receive real-time Notifications on Alexa enabled devices. You will have significant influence on our overall strategy by helping define these product features, drive the system architecture, and spearhead the best practices that enable a quality product. The ideal candidate is clearly passionate about new opportunities and has a demonstrable track record of success in delivering new features and products. A commitment to team work, hustle, and strong communication skills (to both business and technical partners) are absolute requirements. Creating reliable, scalable, and high performance products requires exceptional technical expertise, a sound understanding of the fundamentals of Computer Science, and practical experience building large-scale distributed systems. This person has thrived and succeeded in delivering high quality technology products/services in a hyper-growth environment where priorities shift fast. Key Responsibilities: • Work within a team of engineers to architect and develop the best technical design and approach to complex problems • Directly involved in all aspects of the software development life-cycle (design, development, test, operations) • Work on projects that operate cross-functionally with multiple engineering, design and product teams • Work in an Agile/Scrum environment to deliver high quality software against defined schedules and milestones Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related field • 4+ years' experience building production software systems Preferred Qualifications: • Experience working on large

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