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    I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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      I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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      Mike Hankey
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      DerekTP123 wrote:

      Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it?

      Yes, without deadlines or managers.

      Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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        I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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        Nish Nishant
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        At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.

        Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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          At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.

          Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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          Something like what you said. For me, when I stop taking the company check, I've already heard they're putting me out to stud. Good pay. Good hours. But some of those clients? Double-baggers!

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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            I think all the people on code-project should actively plan for retirement period. You cant spent your who life coding JavaScript for chirst sakes !!! Will drive you insane.. Plus the amount of bug and lack of documentation will drive you mad !

            Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

            We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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            • D DerekT P

              I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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              wELL, i RETIRED AFTER HAVING A STROKE AND HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING PROJECTS EVER SINCE. sOME HAS BEEN FOR MY OWN AMUSEMENT, SOME HAS BEEN DEVELOPING PRODUCTS TO MARKET AND SOME HAS BEEN PROJECTS THAT CLIENTS HAVE COMMISSIONED. I'm still trying to decide what I want to do when I grow up. When I was getting ready to retire, I also went back to grad school, which I'm finishing now after a 3 year delay due to my stroke! When I stop working, it will be when I physically and mentally am not able to . Until then, I've still got lots of copde to crank out and products to develop and languages to learn!

              CQ de W5ALT

              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                I think all the people on code-project should actively plan for retirement period. You cant spent your who life coding JavaScript for chirst sakes !!! Will drive you insane.. Plus the amount of bug and lack of documentation will drive you mad !

                Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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                Rob Philpott
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                JavaScript seems like a fairly new language to me. Popular with the young. Proper languages have name mangling.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  wELL, i RETIRED AFTER HAVING A STROKE AND HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING PROJECTS EVER SINCE. sOME HAS BEEN FOR MY OWN AMUSEMENT, SOME HAS BEEN DEVELOPING PRODUCTS TO MARKET AND SOME HAS BEEN PROJECTS THAT CLIENTS HAVE COMMISSIONED. I'm still trying to decide what I want to do when I grow up. When I was getting ready to retire, I also went back to grad school, which I'm finishing now after a 3 year delay due to my stroke! When I stop working, it will be when I physically and mentally am not able to . Until then, I've still got lots of copde to crank out and products to develop and languages to learn!

                  CQ de W5ALT

                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                  :thumbsup:

                  Ad astra - both ways!

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.

                    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                    KarstenK
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                    Really? I cant believe that. :wtf: Arent the salaries not high enough to save for retirement or is job not so lucrative?

                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                      Really? I cant believe that. :wtf: Arent the salaries not high enough to save for retirement or is job not so lucrative?

                      Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Well, if you work from 23 to 60, that's 37 years of employment. If you can save 1/3 of your income, that should cover 19 years (assuming 0 growth), and around 25 years (assuming 10-15% growth). But in reality very few people can save that much. Especially as budgeting is not a skill people have these days. Families with 100K household income drive luxury cars (they also lease instead of buying used), people wear designer clothing (3x the cost of normal clothes), spend a ton on eating out, upgrading phones/gadgets every 2 years, etc. There was a study recently that said 50% of Americans have less than 10K saved up.

                      Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                        DerekTP123 wrote:

                        Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it?

                        Yes, without deadlines or managers.

                        Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                        Yes, without deadlines or managers.

                        The two main things that take the fun out of work!

                        CQ de W5ALT

                        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          Yes, without deadlines or managers.

                          The two main things that take the fun out of work!

                          CQ de W5ALT

                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                          Mike Hankey
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                          Yep and sick the life out of you.

                          Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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                            At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.

                            Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                            Nish Nishant wrote:

                            unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement.

                            But, there is another way! I've known way too many people who have retired on disability, or faked on the job injuries for a settlement/annuity. My younger brother retired at 48 yo from a super easy govt. job due to arthritis and my brother-in-law retired at 52 with a knee injury that had nothing to do with his job. As for myself, I'm 51 and have been in software for almost 20 years. I really don't see myself retiring before probably 65 or so. (based on IRA performance) Even after that, I can see myself piddling with personal projects and probably hanging out here in the lounge. :)

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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                              If you have somebody telling you what to do and when to do it means you are an employee: - even if it's 'only part time' - even 'on a contract' where they stipulate when and/or where you work (basically it's just part/full time work on a contract rather then on payroll) Employed: 'we need you for X hours a week/on call, your tasks will be: X, Y and Z [to be completed by this-date]' Retired: 'we need X, Y and Z, interested?' and you reply: 'give me a X months and I'll do X and Z.' (or alternatively you offer that to them before they ask.)

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                                Well, if you work from 23 to 60, that's 37 years of employment. If you can save 1/3 of your income, that should cover 19 years (assuming 0 growth), and around 25 years (assuming 10-15% growth). But in reality very few people can save that much. Especially as budgeting is not a skill people have these days. Families with 100K household income drive luxury cars (they also lease instead of buying used), people wear designer clothing (3x the cost of normal clothes), spend a ton on eating out, upgrading phones/gadgets every 2 years, etc. There was a study recently that said 50% of Americans have less than 10K saved up.

                                Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                Perhaps it's all true. Studies find what they want to find - but I don know that a lot of employees where I work make comparatively low pay and yet will buy $200 boots because they'll be in style for a few months. But, it's there own fault. In the grand scheme, unless they hope and plan to die young, they're living far beyond their means. So I had small cars, bought mostly used and kept until they weren't worth fixing. If any of my neighbors thought I should be more stylish they could buy me something better. Ordering lunch every day at work, instead of bringing it? That's thousands of dollars/year. Upgrading phones? WTF for? And spend a kilobuck on it - well, it's like this - I won't shed a tear for someone who's spent it all on short term goals. I can quit working whenever I want. Can travel, buy things, and not skip a beat. Not because my pay was high (it never was) but because I learned how to live with what I had and have enough of it saved to keep doing just that. With a little luck, Social Security will tide them through. Or, maybe it's time for payback in a biblical style: after the fat years come the lean years, and the fat years were forgotten as a consequence of the lean years.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it). Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do... Just curious...

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                                  CPallini
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                                  In Italy the only available retirement is the death. :-D

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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.

                                    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                    So true. I see more and more elderly people working part time jobs, because they did not plan well enough for the future, or things came up in retirement that made them have to go back to work.

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                                      So true. I see more and more elderly people working part time jobs, because they did not plan well enough for the future, or things came up in retirement that made them have to go back to work.

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      As a software developer, it's easy to think you can continue coding and making money in your 70s, but it's not easy to predict your health. Or even how mentally active you can be.

                                      Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                        Perhaps it's all true. Studies find what they want to find - but I don know that a lot of employees where I work make comparatively low pay and yet will buy $200 boots because they'll be in style for a few months. But, it's there own fault. In the grand scheme, unless they hope and plan to die young, they're living far beyond their means. So I had small cars, bought mostly used and kept until they weren't worth fixing. If any of my neighbors thought I should be more stylish they could buy me something better. Ordering lunch every day at work, instead of bringing it? That's thousands of dollars/year. Upgrading phones? WTF for? And spend a kilobuck on it - well, it's like this - I won't shed a tear for someone who's spent it all on short term goals. I can quit working whenever I want. Can travel, buy things, and not skip a beat. Not because my pay was high (it never was) but because I learned how to live with what I had and have enough of it saved to keep doing just that. With a little luck, Social Security will tide them through. Or, maybe it's time for payback in a biblical style: after the fat years come the lean years, and the fat years were forgotten as a consequence of the lean years.

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        Leng Vang
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                                        What? You work like a bee and live like a rat? All those saving wouldn't do you any good it you should hit by a truck tomorrow. On the other hand if you should live to 100 years old, well it helps. Its a "IF".

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                                          So true. I see more and more elderly people working part time jobs, because they did not plan well enough for the future, or things came up in retirement that made them have to go back to work.

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                                          Leng Vang
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                                          Doesn't matter much if you don't already millionaire. Simply 401K won't do it much in this day and age of economy. I lost all my 401K during the recession.

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