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    James Lonero
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    Oh brother! Are Google’s search engine or Facebook’s social network really "essential facilities"? Can we not get the same search abilities with Bing or other search engines? Doesn't Twitter offer a social network? Doesn't Google offer a social network? Yes, there is competition, but Google search engine or Facebook’s social network are not the only game in town. Since users prefer Google's search engine and Facebook’s social network, does not make them monopolies. These EU officials need to get their noses out of their ivory towers and look around. Expand their minds and research alternatives. What this article is showing us is that the EU will not let their people choose how to search or to network. If Google and Facebook are preferred, so be it. At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services. We may have to endure some adds, but that's no big deal breaker.

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      Oh brother! Are Google’s search engine or Facebook’s social network really "essential facilities"? Can we not get the same search abilities with Bing or other search engines? Doesn't Twitter offer a social network? Doesn't Google offer a social network? Yes, there is competition, but Google search engine or Facebook’s social network are not the only game in town. Since users prefer Google's search engine and Facebook’s social network, does not make them monopolies. These EU officials need to get their noses out of their ivory towers and look around. Expand their minds and research alternatives. What this article is showing us is that the EU will not let their people choose how to search or to network. If Google and Facebook are preferred, so be it. At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services. We may have to endure some adds, but that's no big deal breaker.

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      Lost User
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      Agree. More critical I think is wiki, no real alternative available ;)

      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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        Oh brother! Are Google’s search engine or Facebook’s social network really "essential facilities"? Can we not get the same search abilities with Bing or other search engines? Doesn't Twitter offer a social network? Doesn't Google offer a social network? Yes, there is competition, but Google search engine or Facebook’s social network are not the only game in town. Since users prefer Google's search engine and Facebook’s social network, does not make them monopolies. These EU officials need to get their noses out of their ivory towers and look around. Expand their minds and research alternatives. What this article is showing us is that the EU will not let their people choose how to search or to network. If Google and Facebook are preferred, so be it. At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services. We may have to endure some adds, but that's no big deal breaker.

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        James Lonero wrote:

        At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services.

        As (I forget who) said:

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        If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold

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        • J James Lonero

          Oh brother! Are Google’s search engine or Facebook’s social network really "essential facilities"? Can we not get the same search abilities with Bing or other search engines? Doesn't Twitter offer a social network? Doesn't Google offer a social network? Yes, there is competition, but Google search engine or Facebook’s social network are not the only game in town. Since users prefer Google's search engine and Facebook’s social network, does not make them monopolies. These EU officials need to get their noses out of their ivory towers and look around. Expand their minds and research alternatives. What this article is showing us is that the EU will not let their people choose how to search or to network. If Google and Facebook are preferred, so be it. At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services. We may have to endure some adds, but that's no big deal breaker.

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          This topic is better suited to the Soapbox. As you have mentioned a political entity (the EU), you can guarantee that this topic is going to get political at some point.

          This space for rent

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            Oh brother! Are Google’s search engine or Facebook’s social network really "essential facilities"? Can we not get the same search abilities with Bing or other search engines? Doesn't Twitter offer a social network? Doesn't Google offer a social network? Yes, there is competition, but Google search engine or Facebook’s social network are not the only game in town. Since users prefer Google's search engine and Facebook’s social network, does not make them monopolies. These EU officials need to get their noses out of their ivory towers and look around. Expand their minds and research alternatives. What this article is showing us is that the EU will not let their people choose how to search or to network. If Google and Facebook are preferred, so be it. At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services. We may have to endure some adds, but that's no big deal breaker.

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            We survived fine without them for millennia, so no, none of it is essential.

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              James Lonero wrote:

              At least Google and Facebook are not charging us, their users, for their services.

              As (I forget who) said:

              Quote:

              If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              OriginalGriff wrote:

              As (I forget who) said:

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              If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold

              It's amazing how many people don't grasp this idea.

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                We survived fine without them for millennia, so no, none of it is essential.

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                Brady Kelly
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                We survived for centuries without Smallpox vaccine as well, so no, it's not really essential, but very, very beneficial to have.

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  As (I forget who) said:

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                  If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold

                  It's amazing how many people don't grasp this idea.

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                  CodeWraith
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                  And it's even more amazing that companies like Apple or Mickeysoft try to herd their customers into walled gardens and once they are locked in, they treat them just as if they were not customers. They want to collect data as they please, for whatever purposes. They use the user's resources, like download volume, power or the computer itself, when and as much as they please. They generally want to install stuff as they please and don't care if someone actually wants it or not. As a bonus, they remove some things you actually liked or used or introduce some new bugs, ranging from annoying to show stopping). They tell their users when they may actually use what they paid for or when it's time to hop through some more activation / confirmation/ lizensing hoops. You have to be a great masochist to be happy with that kind of service. Paying for something does not really help, as it seems.

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                    We survived for centuries without Smallpox vaccine as well, so no, it's not really essential, but very, very beneficial to have.

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                    Given the choice between Smallpox vaccine and Facebook... :rolleyes:

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