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  • W W Balboos GHB

    :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
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    Two cups of light roast, you lose caffeine the darker you roast the beans. A bit of cream to reduce the acidity, seeing my dad pay for his two pot a day habit later in life. Perhaps a little sugar depending on my mood. Weekends I usually have an espresso, one cube of sugar on the side. Late night coffee? Irish.

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      Two cups of light roast, you lose caffeine the darker you roast the beans. A bit of cream to reduce the acidity, seeing my dad pay for his two pot a day habit later in life. Perhaps a little sugar depending on my mood. Weekends I usually have an espresso, one cube of sugar on the side. Late night coffee? Irish.

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      If you measure your coffee by scoops, light roasted coffee will have more caffeine. Since the beans are denser than a darker roast. However if you weigh out your scoops, darker roasts will have more caffeine, because there is less mass.

      So - per pound, apparently, it's a wash. The solution, then for scoop users, is to just use more, or drink more, or both.

      RJOberg wrote:

      my dad pay for his two pot a day habit later in life.

      How So? The current wisdom is that coffee is primarily beneficial (although that could change any time, and then change back). Might I add the caution that if he did coffee-and-a-cigarette, it falls into the "why" of many earlier studies which didn't deconvolute the effects of smoking from coffee drinking.

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        W∴ Balboos wrote:

        or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks)

        huh? Starbucks is not in the vocabulary of people that enjoy coffee. No wait, let me rephrase that: Starbucks is not in the vocabulary of people that enjoy coffee.

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        > Lopatir wrote: No wait, let me rephrase that: Starbucks is not in the vocabulary of people that enjoy coffee. I don't get this. Admittedly, I'm not a coffee drinker, but, my wife is and she loves Starbucks. I often hear people bag on Starbucks. What about them do you dislike?

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        • W W Balboos GHB

          :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
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          Heretic alert: I take mine in the form of Diet Coke. Coffee is an odd thing for me. Smells great walking down the coffee aisle of the grocery store; tastes foul every time I've tried it. All I ever get is a burned taste.

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            Heretic alert: I take mine in the form of Diet Coke. Coffee is an odd thing for me. Smells great walking down the coffee aisle of the grocery store; tastes foul every time I've tried it. All I ever get is a burned taste.

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            There's no account for taste - but I mean that literally. Out of no where, as a child, I found the taste/smell of eggs intolerable and milk undrinkable. This came to be from one day to the next. I actually found someone else, once, who had the same thing happen. Some biological switch, I suppose. No allergies to these items - just inedible/undrinkable for no apparent reason. Cakes, cookies, cheese, yogurt, etc. are fine, even scrumptious. I've heard there are even "people" who don't like chocolate! Hopefully, you can enjoy coffee ice-cream.

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              There's no account for taste - but I mean that literally. Out of no where, as a child, I found the taste/smell of eggs intolerable and milk undrinkable. This came to be from one day to the next. I actually found someone else, once, who had the same thing happen. Some biological switch, I suppose. No allergies to these items - just inedible/undrinkable for no apparent reason. Cakes, cookies, cheese, yogurt, etc. are fine, even scrumptious. I've heard there are even "people" who don't like chocolate! Hopefully, you can enjoy coffee ice-cream.

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              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              > W∴ Balboos wrote: Hopefully, you can enjoy coffee ice-cream. Lactose intolerant. :) I do like lemon sorbet, though. Try to avoid the refined sugars as much as possible, so I rarely eat desserts. My true carb weakness is Doritos...

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
                :java:

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                By the pint. And if it can't eat a spoon, it's not coffee.

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  If you measure your coffee by scoops, light roasted coffee will have more caffeine. Since the beans are denser than a darker roast. However if you weigh out your scoops, darker roasts will have more caffeine, because there is less mass.

                  So - per pound, apparently, it's a wash. The solution, then for scoop users, is to just use more, or drink more, or both.

                  RJOberg wrote:

                  my dad pay for his two pot a day habit later in life.

                  How So? The current wisdom is that coffee is primarily beneficial (although that could change any time, and then change back). Might I add the caution that if he did coffee-and-a-cigarette, it falls into the "why" of many earlier studies which didn't deconvolute the effects of smoking from coffee drinking.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  So - per pound, apparently, it's a wash. The solution, then for scoop users, is to just use more, or drink more, or both.

                  I use a scoop. That is interesting to learn though, sort of mirrors my experience with baking. For dry goods such as flour, American recipes tend to use volume, i.e. 1 cup. British and European recipes usually have it by weight. Weight is more accurate because flour will settle and 1 cup sifted is not the same as 1 cup unsifted after it has had some time to settle.

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                  The current wisdom is that coffee is primarily beneficial

                  For many things yes, however we're talking decades of abusing it. So a lot of heartburn which lead to GERD. So coffee causes a more acidic environment and in his case, pain. On the other hand, I've kept myself in a better state of health than him so I likely don't have to worry.

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                  • J jackbrownii

                    > Lopatir wrote: No wait, let me rephrase that: Starbucks is not in the vocabulary of people that enjoy coffee. I don't get this. Admittedly, I'm not a coffee drinker, but, my wife is and she loves Starbucks. I often hear people bag on Starbucks. What about them do you dislike?

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                    We like and dislike them for the same reasons than McDonalds : Their stuff might taste well and is the same in every part of the world, but it is not coffee, as McDonalds is not food.

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
                      :java:

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                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Black, dark, one sweetener form CBTL or the stock of Nespresso we have. Decaf at home. Hey, gotta have some balance...

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                        Black, dark, one sweetener form CBTL or the stock of Nespresso we have. Decaf at home. Hey, gotta have some balance...

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                        R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                        Hey, gotta have some balance..

                        You could always just hold the cup in your other hand.

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                        • R RJOberg

                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                          So - per pound, apparently, it's a wash. The solution, then for scoop users, is to just use more, or drink more, or both.

                          I use a scoop. That is interesting to learn though, sort of mirrors my experience with baking. For dry goods such as flour, American recipes tend to use volume, i.e. 1 cup. British and European recipes usually have it by weight. Weight is more accurate because flour will settle and 1 cup sifted is not the same as 1 cup unsifted after it has had some time to settle.

                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                          The current wisdom is that coffee is primarily beneficial

                          For many things yes, however we're talking decades of abusing it. So a lot of heartburn which lead to GERD. So coffee causes a more acidic environment and in his case, pain. On the other hand, I've kept myself in a better state of health than him so I likely don't have to worry.

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                          RJOberg wrote:

                          o coffee causes a more acidic environment

                          Yes, but not directly. It stimulates digestive juices. The acidity of your stomach, 0.1 M Hydrochloric Acid, is not matched by any food. It's pH is 1. Even vinegar has a pH of 2.4 (5%, like in a bottle of edible vinegar). This makes stomach acid 25 times more acidic than vinegar. Coffee hardly registers in that realm. That being said, stimulating the juices, constantly, can cause the stomach acids to flow when you stomach hasn't finished protecting itself (prostaglandin 1, also, inhibited by aspirin, etc.). Too much information.

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                            > Lopatir wrote: No wait, let me rephrase that: Starbucks is not in the vocabulary of people that enjoy coffee. I don't get this. Admittedly, I'm not a coffee drinker, but, my wife is and she loves Starbucks. I often hear people bag on Starbucks. What about them do you dislike?

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                            I drink my coffee black, no sugar. starbucks long black (or whatever name they're using these days) tastes like crap, total utter crap. now this is the same stuff they use in their other drinks, except those are loaded with all sorts of condiments and flavours, milk, cinnamon, 10 different types of sugar, pumpkin, radish and who knows what else. just like 2 year old kids, anything tastes great if you add enough sugar and/or other sweet crap to it. Yes, that's all they are doing, putting sugar on shit and feeding it to you. Also: Here in Singapore I can get a 'local coffee' for $1, and it tates great - local cheap Indonesian ground coffee suspended in a double muslin cloth bag in hot water - it tastes fine. I get table service too, $1.00! or I can pay $6 last time I looked (years ago, probably getting close to $10) at starbucks, for 'selected blended child and slave labour free Kenyan coffee beans' and it tastes awful. I have to queue up for that too. It is the worse coffee ever, even mcdonalds does it better. Summary: As a coffee purist (black and none), starbucks is a complete flavour fail, and a rip off to boot, not just 'a little more for the brand,' it's an utter gouge of peoples stupidity. Like paying the price of a brand new AMG merc and getting a 40 year old Trabant: not exaggerating it tastes that bad and is that much over priced.

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                              Hey, gotta have some balance..

                              You could always just hold the cup in your other hand.

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                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                Unfortunately, they don't have whiskey or whipped cream at work. :(

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                                So how happy would everyone be if you brought some into the office tomorrow? And don't forget the chocolate sprinkles!

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
                                  :java:

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                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  That looks like water and tastes like ink? Like anything, one who is a heavy drinkers could taste the difference. I for one don't drink straight black. Though I love the aroma of hazelnuts in coffee.

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    There's no account for taste - but I mean that literally. Out of no where, as a child, I found the taste/smell of eggs intolerable and milk undrinkable. This came to be from one day to the next. I actually found someone else, once, who had the same thing happen. Some biological switch, I suppose. No allergies to these items - just inedible/undrinkable for no apparent reason. Cakes, cookies, cheese, yogurt, etc. are fine, even scrumptious. I've heard there are even "people" who don't like chocolate! Hopefully, you can enjoy coffee ice-cream.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Are you looking at me. I hate chocolate. I don't drink straight black either. However, most people couldn't stand the smell of Duran fruit. You know those asian big spiky, the size of water melon, banned in Singapore and most hotel in around the whole. But I love to eat them. Once you get pass the stingy and pungent smell it actually very sweet. The only bad part is that every time I eat those, my wife ask me to sleep on the couch. Even the sweat and urine smells. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Call me weird, but every one (man or animal) couldn't tolerate the smell of skunk. There are so many where I live (killed a dozen of them each year). Every time I had to put one down the area smell for weeks. The funny thing is if you learned to appreciate the smell it isn't that bad. If you have just the slightest smell (couple part per million) it actually smell more like perfume and some people actually wearing them.

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                                    • W W Balboos GHB

                                      :java: Probably exists somewhere in the ancient CP Archives, but times changes, so how do you take your coffee? (not-at-all persons should start their own thread). :java: For some years, now, I drink it black/unsweetened. When I make my own coffee, or have good stuff on the outside (such as StarBucks), that's it. By the pint. :java: At work, however, we have vats of swill - and to make them palatable I will either use a cinnamon stick, or more often, several stars of Star Anise[^]. They're both best used repeatedly, as due to their rugged nature, if used quite a number of times the effect increases as they soak through. The star anise, in particular, will make acrid brews smooth and mellow (comparatively) as they lounge at the bottom of the mug. Do not so much as to make it taste like licorice.
                                      :java:

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                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      I'd like to be able to drink coffee, but it makes me very ill. The flavor isn't the problem (I love coffee flavored things). I have yet to try cold brewed coffee, which is less acidic, which I think is the main problem for me (high acid things make me sick).

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                                        Are you looking at me. I hate chocolate. I don't drink straight black either. However, most people couldn't stand the smell of Duran fruit. You know those asian big spiky, the size of water melon, banned in Singapore and most hotel in around the whole. But I love to eat them. Once you get pass the stingy and pungent smell it actually very sweet. The only bad part is that every time I eat those, my wife ask me to sleep on the couch. Even the sweat and urine smells. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Call me weird, but every one (man or animal) couldn't tolerate the smell of skunk. There are so many where I live (killed a dozen of them each year). Every time I had to put one down the area smell for weeks. The funny thing is if you learned to appreciate the smell it isn't that bad. If you have just the slightest smell (couple part per million) it actually smell more like perfume and some people actually wearing them.

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                                        Yeah - I know what durian fruit is and what it is like. Have you ever considered, based upon what attracts your tastes and what doesn't, that you are basically a re-incarnated fly?

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          Yeah - I know what durian fruit is and what it is like. Have you ever considered, based upon what attracts your tastes and what doesn't, that you are basically a re-incarnated fly?

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                                          :-D Perhaps so. I like eating fermented fish too. That explains it. :laugh:

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