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Why (western) humans use the decimal system?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    public class Finger
    {
    ...
    }
    public class Thumb : Finger
    {
    ...
    }

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    Fingers eight Yoda has.

    Ad astra - both ways!

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      Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

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      Dr Walt Fair PE
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      No, octal would be more natural, since we actually have 8 fingers.Ayt least I do!

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

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        Roman Numerals are a non-positional notation

        Roman numbers don't depend for value on their relative distance from the decimal point like ours does: they had different markers for Ten, Fifty, Hundred, and so on (until they needed really big numbers, when they started using bars over the number which multiplied it by 1000).

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        incorporate base #5, as well as base #10

        They used a kinda composite system , which used both base five (V, L, D) as well as base ten (X, C, M). Division in roman numbers was ... um ... interesting. whi8ch might have been why they used abaci (though we have no idea if they invented it or teh Chinese, they both used very similar devices).

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        Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions

        I didn't know that!

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        BillWoodruff
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions

        Hi, There is some wonderful scholarly work going on by a modern generation of historians who are correcting the optics of the warped eurocentric/western lens prior generations' scholars looked through, and used to frame the interaction between "West and East." Lisa Jardine (deceased 2015) is one of my favorites; her work "Worldly Goods" is a masterpiece. Stewart Gordon's "There and Back: Twelve of the Great Routes of Human History" is a newer (2018) contribution. My own amateur research in this area is more oriented to intra-Asian trade, and cultural transmission of ideas, art, and culture. 1300 years ago, in (what is now) China, we could have leased Bactrian camels to take our precious silks and luxury crafts across the Silk Road, a journey of 185 days; the Bactrian Camels, carrying a load of 100~200kg. each, could go for three days without water as we crossed the Taklamakan desert, even though we couldn't. For money, we might have used Sasanian silver (ancient Iranian empire: a high-quality mintage widely used). But, of course, silk itself was a currency all along the Silk Road. If we survived our journey, we might have come back rich, perhaps laden with Roman gold. More importantly, we might have had stories to tell that induced wonder in all who heard them.

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          :-O Ok let us use the toes :-O :-O :-O

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          The danes and the french does.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            public class Finger
            {
            ...
            }
            public class Thumb : Finger
            {
            ...
            }

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            David ONeil
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            [Is a thumb a finger? | Oxford Dictionaries](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/is-a-thumb-a-finger/). 'Appendage' or 'digit' would be a better base class. :-\ :laugh:

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            • D Daniel Pfeffer

              Fingers eight Yoda has.

              Ad astra - both ways!

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              Interesting it makes when guitar he plays

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                Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                0x01AA wrote:

                Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists.

                I've recently been watching some YouTube videos late at night about the Sumerian Sexagesimal (base 60)[^] system. It's extremely interesting. The Sumerians absolutely knew about zero.. but they did not have a symbol for it. In all of the clay tablets with calculations requiring a zero... there is a blank space where the number zero should be. That makes perfect sense to me... with zero being NULL. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                  Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  [Because every base is base 10](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c9468c7f3d7bcef7b0f2d0fdf83328d4)

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    The danes and the french does.

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                    Patrice T
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                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    The danes and the french does.

                    En est tu certain ?

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      0x01AA wrote:

                      Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?

                      But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested... :laugh: Probably, "because it works" - the Babylonians used sexagesimal, which is somewhat unwieldy; the Egyptians were decimal; some native American tribes used pental; Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers; the Gauls and the Mayans were vigesimal (and this can still be seen in how the French count between 60 and 100) Probably, we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      we have the Roman empire to blame

                      As someone with a somewhat Italian sounding last name I am offended by your appropriation of the Roman culture! You might say I am actually Dutch, or that the Romans forced their culture upon Europe, but I will not hear it! Also, the world is flat, unlike Mars which we have observed to be round. I am also vegetarian and therefore I am ethically superior to you and everything you say will be twisted and turned and taken out of context so all your arguments are invalid. Last, but not least, I sexually identify as an Apache attack helicopter.

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        we have the Roman empire to blame

                        As someone with a somewhat Italian sounding last name I am offended by your appropriation of the Roman culture! You might say I am actually Dutch, or that the Romans forced their culture upon Europe, but I will not hear it! Also, the world is flat, unlike Mars which we have observed to be round. I am also vegetarian and therefore I am ethically superior to you and everything you say will be twisted and turned and taken out of context so all your arguments are invalid. Last, but not least, I sexually identify as an Apache attack helicopter.

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                        Interesting. I identify as the aroma of roses on a summer's evening.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Interesting. I identify as the aroma of roses on a summer's evening.

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          So you're saying we should kill all plants? You monster... Don't say I didn't warn you :)

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                            0x01AA wrote:

                            Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists.

                            I've recently been watching some YouTube videos late at night about the Sumerian Sexagesimal (base 60)[^] system. It's extremely interesting. The Sumerians absolutely knew about zero.. but they did not have a symbol for it. In all of the clay tablets with calculations requiring a zero... there is a blank space where the number zero should be. That makes perfect sense to me... with zero being NULL. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                            There is some very interesting speculation about west-to-east (from Egypt) cultural transmission of iconography and the mathematical basis for weights and measures in this book on the weights of Burma (now Myanmar): Note: CP editor is not displaying pasted in links as expected ... https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Heaven-Animal-Shaped-Weights-Burmese/dp/9747551209 It's an out-of print book for a specialist, and ridiculously expensive, now. And, frustrating to read because some very grandiose theories are proposed, but sources are not annotated satisfactorily.

                            «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                              Quote:

                              I know about another bool System

                              Boob system, we call it.

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                              BillWoodruff
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                              but, that's binary, most often !

                              «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                but, that's binary, most often !

                                «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                Don't know about you, but they are not equivalent systems to me. :-D

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                                  Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

                                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                  I have nothing to add, just wanted to say that this is a great example of why I like this place. i. Interesting questions ii. Lot's of really smart people here with intelligent or humorous (both entertaining) answers ..even on a weekend! :)

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                                    I have nothing to add, just wanted to say that this is a great example of why I like this place. i. Interesting questions ii. Lot's of really smart people here with intelligent or humorous (both entertaining) answers ..even on a weekend! :)

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                                    So have a nice Weekend :)

                                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      [Because every base is base 10](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c9468c7f3d7bcef7b0f2d0fdf83328d4)

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                                      :thumbsup:

                                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      • B BillWoodruff

                                        There is some very interesting speculation about west-to-east (from Egypt) cultural transmission of iconography and the mathematical basis for weights and measures in this book on the weights of Burma (now Myanmar): Note: CP editor is not displaying pasted in links as expected ... https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Heaven-Animal-Shaped-Weights-Burmese/dp/9747551209 It's an out-of print book for a specialist, and ridiculously expensive, now. And, frustrating to read because some very grandiose theories are proposed, but sources are not annotated satisfactorily.

                                        «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                        Earth to Heaven: The Royal Animal-Shaped Weights of the Burmese Empire: Joan Gear, Donald Gear: 9789747551204: Amazon.com: Books[^] To Format a link I'm usually go to Q/A, paste the link into an answer, copy the formated preview and cancel answering. This works reliable most (all the) times.

                                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                          There is some very interesting speculation about west-to-east (from Egypt) cultural transmission of iconography and the mathematical basis for weights and measures in this book on the weights of Burma (now Myanmar): Note: CP editor is not displaying pasted in links as expected ... https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Heaven-Animal-Shaped-Weights-Burmese/dp/9747551209 It's an out-of print book for a specialist, and ridiculously expensive, now. And, frustrating to read because some very grandiose theories are proposed, but sources are not annotated satisfactorily.

                                          «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                          Hi, Found a peer-review of the book[^]. It looks interesting. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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