Music
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I know there have been numerous music threads but I had a thought. What music do you enjoy from a language that isn't your first? My first language is English, followed by grade-school Japanese (ohayou), and very sparse Tagalog (magandang araw). Recently I ran into the band Man With A Mission and really love the intertwining of English and Japanese through the songs The Perfect World[^] (from the anime B the Beginning), My Hero[^] (from the anime Inuyashiki), and an original The Anthem[^]. EDIT: Links and grammar. EDIT2: Reworded for clarity.
Probably Arabic (or middle-eastern) "sounding" music and east European Jewish (Klezmer) "sounding" music. It's not about the language itself, but the musicality of the music; how it has an emotional reverberation with me.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I know there have been numerous music threads but I had a thought. What music do you enjoy from a language that isn't your first? My first language is English, followed by grade-school Japanese (ohayou), and very sparse Tagalog (magandang araw). Recently I ran into the band Man With A Mission and really love the intertwining of English and Japanese through the songs The Perfect World[^] (from the anime B the Beginning), My Hero[^] (from the anime Inuyashiki), and an original The Anthem[^]. EDIT: Links and grammar. EDIT2: Reworded for clarity.
I quite like some old german bands, some examples (german is my second language): [Keimzeit - Schmetterlinge - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0u-rJxaWuc) [Die Fantastischen Vier - Die Da ?! (Original HQ) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUosAGDM8Sg)
throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart.
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I know there have been numerous music threads but I had a thought. What music do you enjoy from a language that isn't your first? My first language is English, followed by grade-school Japanese (ohayou), and very sparse Tagalog (magandang araw). Recently I ran into the band Man With A Mission and really love the intertwining of English and Japanese through the songs The Perfect World[^] (from the anime B the Beginning), My Hero[^] (from the anime Inuyashiki), and an original The Anthem[^]. EDIT: Links and grammar. EDIT2: Reworded for clarity.
Maybe not "personally influential" (I'm not even sure what that means), but lately my guilty pleasure would have to be Japan's [Ayumi Hamasaki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayumi\_Hamasaki). She must be doing something right considering she's sold over 50 million albums and she's barely known outside of Asia. Although my understanding is that she's not considered to be J-Pop in the same sense that, say, Shania Twain is not considered country. I can't understand a word, but she's got some catchy tunes and a discography the size of which would make most north-American artists look like lazy bums.
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Maybe not "personally influential" (I'm not even sure what that means), but lately my guilty pleasure would have to be Japan's [Ayumi Hamasaki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayumi\_Hamasaki). She must be doing something right considering she's sold over 50 million albums and she's barely known outside of Asia. Although my understanding is that she's not considered to be J-Pop in the same sense that, say, Shania Twain is not considered country. I can't understand a word, but she's got some catchy tunes and a discography the size of which would make most north-American artists look like lazy bums.
Yea, I re-worded that. When I originally wrote it I was thinking of artists like E Nomine, Megaherz, Ayumi Hamasaki, Maximum the Hormone, etc which for me really got me interested not only in different music but different languages. But really I'm just curious what people like even though they might not understand it all. I like Ayumi, haven't heard more recent stuff, but Moments[^] is still a great track.
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Probably Arabic (or middle-eastern) "sounding" music and east European Jewish (Klezmer) "sounding" music. It's not about the language itself, but the musicality of the music; how it has an emotional reverberation with me.
I'd rather be phishing!
If you have not done so already I would recommend checking out Marcel Khalife. He has done some great arrangements of Arabic music.
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I know there have been numerous music threads but I had a thought. What music do you enjoy from a language that isn't your first? My first language is English, followed by grade-school Japanese (ohayou), and very sparse Tagalog (magandang araw). Recently I ran into the band Man With A Mission and really love the intertwining of English and Japanese through the songs The Perfect World[^] (from the anime B the Beginning), My Hero[^] (from the anime Inuyashiki), and an original The Anthem[^]. EDIT: Links and grammar. EDIT2: Reworded for clarity.
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Yea, I re-worded that. When I originally wrote it I was thinking of artists like E Nomine, Megaherz, Ayumi Hamasaki, Maximum the Hormone, etc which for me really got me interested not only in different music but different languages. But really I'm just curious what people like even though they might not understand it all. I like Ayumi, haven't heard more recent stuff, but Moments[^] is still a great track.
What are the odds that some random guy on CP asking about music in other languages happens to also know of her... Mid- to late 00's has some of her best material, even though some hate her newer stuff - personally, I like it all. I've also tried "expanding my horizons", so to speak, on the Japanese market, and Namie Amuro and Koda Kumi are also worthy of mention. In a completely different genre...I'm also a fan of Pavarotti. Still can't understand a word, but with a voice like that, who cares about the lyrics?
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What are the odds that some random guy on CP asking about music in other languages happens to also know of her... Mid- to late 00's has some of her best material, even though some hate her newer stuff - personally, I like it all. I've also tried "expanding my horizons", so to speak, on the Japanese market, and Namie Amuro and Koda Kumi are also worthy of mention. In a completely different genre...I'm also a fan of Pavarotti. Still can't understand a word, but with a voice like that, who cares about the lyrics?
dandy72 wrote:
In a completely different genre...I'm also a fan of Pavarotti. Still can't understand a word, but with a voice like that, who cares about the lyrics?
I don't believe I've heard any Pavarotti. I'll have to check that out. I like E Nomine even though I don't speak a lick of German or Latin. They sound so unlike any other band and I just keep coming back.
dandy72 wrote:
What are the odds that some random guy on CP asking about music in other languages happens to also know of her...
Apparently pretty good. I ran into her about a decade ago when I started getting into anime. I haven't heard Namie Amuro or Koda Kumi though.
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dandy72 wrote:
In a completely different genre...I'm also a fan of Pavarotti. Still can't understand a word, but with a voice like that, who cares about the lyrics?
I don't believe I've heard any Pavarotti. I'll have to check that out. I like E Nomine even though I don't speak a lick of German or Latin. They sound so unlike any other band and I just keep coming back.
dandy72 wrote:
What are the odds that some random guy on CP asking about music in other languages happens to also know of her...
Apparently pretty good. I ran into her about a decade ago when I started getting into anime. I haven't heard Namie Amuro or Koda Kumi though.
Jon McKee wrote:
I don't believe I've heard any Pavarotti. I'll have to check that out.
Luciano Pavarotti...the opera singer. Even if you can't stand opera, then look for his [Ti Adoro](https://www.discogs.com/Luciano-Pavarotti-Ti-Adoro/release/7386780) album. Tell me [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr4F\_uR6l9A) isn't just a fun video... :-)
Jon McKee wrote:
I haven't heard Namie Amuro or Koda Kumi though.
Apparently there's some sort of rivalry between Namie and Ayumi's fans, but I don't see why one can't be a fan of both. Her song [Hero](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJt7KRmv2bQ) was used for some Olympics event. She announced she's retiring this year (at the ripe old age of 40). Koda Kumi isn't as popular, but she hasn't been at it for as long.
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I know there have been numerous music threads but I had a thought. What music do you enjoy from a language that isn't your first? My first language is English, followed by grade-school Japanese (ohayou), and very sparse Tagalog (magandang araw). Recently I ran into the band Man With A Mission and really love the intertwining of English and Japanese through the songs The Perfect World[^] (from the anime B the Beginning), My Hero[^] (from the anime Inuyashiki), and an original The Anthem[^]. EDIT: Links and grammar. EDIT2: Reworded for clarity.
Anime music for sure, going from all the Urusei Yatsura songs to Kalafina's music from Puella Magi and newer stuff. On the classical end, mostly Latin from groups like "The Sixteen" and "Tallis Scholars" Arabic and Turkish music too- I'm learning to play ney and oud.
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Anime music for sure, going from all the Urusei Yatsura songs to Kalafina's music from Puella Magi and newer stuff. On the classical end, mostly Latin from groups like "The Sixteen" and "Tallis Scholars" Arabic and Turkish music too- I'm learning to play ney and oud.
Paul Kemner wrote:
ney and oud
Had to look that up. Never heard of those instruments before. Any recommended Arabic or Turkish songs? I don't even know where I'd start.
Paul Kemner wrote:
Puella Magi
This reminds me. Wow Mahou Shoujo Site from this season caught me off guard. Was not expecting a horror adaptation of the classic mahou shoujo formula.
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Paul Kemner wrote:
ney and oud
Had to look that up. Never heard of those instruments before. Any recommended Arabic or Turkish songs? I don't even know where I'd start.
Paul Kemner wrote:
Puella Magi
This reminds me. Wow Mahou Shoujo Site from this season caught me off guard. Was not expecting a horror adaptation of the classic mahou shoujo formula.
If you like recent music that has a strong traditional edge to it, check out the group Niyaz- esp their Nine Heavens album. For something more pop-oriented, Natacha Atlas is great. Turkish music is famous for using odd rhythms- including 7/8 and 11/8 for dances. :laugh: Learning Mideast 'scales' - maquam, is really difficult. Some scales are different in the 2nd octave, and there are about 70 possible pitches in an octave. The whole Magical Girl genre has moved into more horrifying territory. (I was just on a panel for this at Penguicon- I described Puella Magi as being like a MG series written by George RR Martin). As far as I can tell, it started with Magical Knight Rayearth (Rescue the princess- Yay! - Now you have to kill her!) Magical Girl Raising Project is another recent one. They end up killing each other off. If you haven't seen "Is This A Zombie?" it is hilarious. Magical chainsaw-wielding male-zombie-magical-girl protagonist, with vampire-ninjas and a cute necromancer.