Smartphone dealbreakers
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
My deal-breaker: a 'phone that breaks when I drop it! :laugh: More seriously, what with sailing, riding and landscape photography I like a 'Mil-Spec' 'phone. I currently use a Cat S30, and am plotting an upgrade to the S60 when Mrs.LadyWife is not looking. :cool:
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
The problem with Bluetooth is that you need high quality headphones. I have the Airpods and I like them: great, clever case sound and no cable mess. But my Sony MDR-1000X are a hit: full sound and noise reduction. Worth the money!!! :cool::thumbsup:
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Dealbreakers: - Screen strictly < 5". I need a phone, no tablet. - < 150€. There is NO reason why a phone should be more expensive than that. - MicroSD slot AND access to files via simple USB
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one.
Get a Google Pixel 2 XL just like I did, you know you want too. It doesn't have 1 and I have no faarrrkkkking idea what number 3 is. Just buy it. I have to go now and up vote your post, I think you are the only person on this site who can spell faarrrkkkk.
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I think I've decided what I want already. I was more interested in what your deal breakers are.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I think I've decided what I want alread
And that would be ... ?
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I think I've decided what I want alread
And that would be ... ?
Probably LG G7 or V30, they come with ESS Sabre ES9218P Quad DAC
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
I'm currently using a 64gb Xiaomi MiA1. I would buy it again. My deal breaker is actually community support. I have perfectly good phones that I had to put in the electronics' closet because of obsolete OS versions. Pros: Android One and a good community support (i.e. custom ROMs when the devices will be unsupported by the manufacturer), cheap (less than 200 EUR), plenty of storage, high audio volume, dual sim/microsd support, headphone jack, bright screen of the right size, battery lasting a couple of days with normal usage (no social network apps). The IR transmitter is also cool (I use it for the projector and air conditioning at the office... coworkers tend to hide their remotes!). Cons: A bit subpar camera in low light, but there are software fixes for that (GCam thread on XDA). Some carriers with exotic 4G bands are not supported (worth a check before buying). As it's a Chinese phone, there is no manufacturer-provided warranty. USB-C connector so good charging cables are a bit on the expensive side. No user-replaceable battery (but still can be replaced by cheap repair shops). YMMV
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
What are your deal breakers?
The name of the phone starts with "i". The brand of the phone is named after a fruit. It's currently the most expensive phone on the market, yet it's inferior to cheaper phones. It comes with iTunes or other malware pre-installed. Any input or output doesn't adhere to standards such as USB so that you have to buy really expensive proprietary cables (for a phone that is already the most expensive on the market). It doesn't even have a headphone jack. It's not new. I'm really not into second hand stuff. Things will break sooner or later and when something's already been used chances are it will be sooner rather than later :) I've had two Samsung Galaxies now and I'm satisfied with them so my next one will probably be a Galaxy as well (maybe not the newest, but not the cheapest/oldest either) :)
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
[curmudgeon mode] A part of me just wants a device that is a mobile phone. Doesn't even need an OS or a screen. Give me something with buttons to dial. OK, texting would be an extra, but not necessary - that's what email is for, or just call me. I don't even care if it records messages. If I'm not answering, don't leave a message, I don't care. But in particular, I don't really need all that extra crap - camera, games, FB, LI, etc. It's all fluff that I consumes my time, which, granted, I am in control of and allow it to consume. There's a thing - I really should engage the will forces and change my phone habits. Anyone know of a 12 step program? ;) [/curmudgeon mode]
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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[curmudgeon mode] A part of me just wants a device that is a mobile phone. Doesn't even need an OS or a screen. Give me something with buttons to dial. OK, texting would be an extra, but not necessary - that's what email is for, or just call me. I don't even care if it records messages. If I'm not answering, don't leave a message, I don't care. But in particular, I don't really need all that extra crap - camera, games, FB, LI, etc. It's all fluff that I consumes my time, which, granted, I am in control of and allow it to consume. There's a thing - I really should engage the will forces and change my phone habits. Anyone know of a 12 step program? ;) [/curmudgeon mode]
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Anyone know of a 12 step program?
Sounds like you're doing just fine.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Dropped my phone on a stone floor the other day, so I need to get a new one. This task seemed easier before I started sifting through existing phones. Anyway, I have a few dealbreakers. For example, I won't buy a phone that needs a dongle, I want a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Bluetooth just isn't good enough for any headphones I've tried yet. Which leads to the next one, a good DAC. Display size, I'm getting old, I need reading glasses so I need a large screen, but it still needs to fit in my pocket. Bloatware - I just hate it, I want a clean experience. OS - I'm using my wife's old iPhone at the moment. FAARRRKKKK!!!!! How can you stand the limitations? It doesn't even have separate volume controls for different playback devices. And if it does I haven't found it. What are your deal breakers? I thought I'd suggest @chris-maunder this as a weekly poll, but first we need a comprehensive list of deal breakers to start with. <edit>I don't want recommendations, I'm interested in what criteria you select your phone on</edit>
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
