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How to become an enemy in your office, the quiest way

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  • C CodeWraith

    Every tyrant seems to think so.

    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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    Eytukan
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    :)

    Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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    • E Eytukan

      If you ask me whose relationship matters most. I'd say it's the team's. Just one little clash between me & the team spoils lots of days of work. I just totally dislike the bad ambiance it creates. 90% of my interactions are with the team. After lots of burns and fumes, I have carefully opted for good relationship with team than with my boss. My boss has dependency on me. So even if I'm turning him off often, it's not mattering much. Lol :)

      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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      Exactly! Being "smart about boss relation" is a very primitive way of going about your job. Building on a good work atmosphere is so much more healthy. I feel sorry for those who prefer to lick their boss' rear end.

      ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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        Exactly! Being "smart about boss relation" is a very primitive way of going about your job. Building on a good work atmosphere is so much more healthy. I feel sorry for those who prefer to lick their boss' rear end.

        ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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        :thumbsup:

        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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          Just cross boundaries and help out some other team, when they are critically struck. And then get loads of praise from the boss, publicly. -As if the other team members have been always incompetent to fix problems. The dumb one is the boss that praises in public undermining the long term work done by the team members. I instantly reject this kind gesture and acknowledge the hard work done by the team. And let everyone know , how little was the fix technique. I guess this is so fundamental. Not sure why the bosses are unaware of these work-etiquettes. If you are a boss, please note down :) hehe

          Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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          Dr Walt Fair PE
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          Go to a meeting along with your boss, and the CEO says, hello Walt, come in anf let me getr you a coffee. Who's the friend you brought along? Bad Karma!!

          CQ de W5ALT

          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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          • E Eytukan

            Just cross boundaries and help out some other team, when they are critically struck. And then get loads of praise from the boss, publicly. -As if the other team members have been always incompetent to fix problems. The dumb one is the boss that praises in public undermining the long term work done by the team members. I instantly reject this kind gesture and acknowledge the hard work done by the team. And let everyone know , how little was the fix technique. I guess this is so fundamental. Not sure why the bosses are unaware of these work-etiquettes. If you are a boss, please note down :) hehe

            Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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            Bill McKidd
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            Leadership 101 Praise in public. Criticize in private. USN officer 13 years.

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              Yeah but you know, the kind of words used by the boss would make even a rabbit turn into a snake. For example, like "Now I know whom to call when we get an issue" . I just put myself teams place. That would be a real turn off. I'm sure they would want to take the harder route and find it by themselves than to let a smart-arse in and take away all their credits.

              Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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              Bill McKidd
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              That is not leadership. Praise the person for the job done. Don't passively criticize the rest of the team. I didn't like managing people, but I could lead them.

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              • E Eytukan

                :)

                Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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                Bill McKidd
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                As a 13 year Naval Officer the cornerstones in leadership: Praise in public. Criticize in private. What you describe is not so much praise, but passive criticism of the team. This isn't leadership. This is decisive, and results in resentment. Your boss publicly put you above the other members. Your boss should have simply praisedon't you efforts and encouraged the team.

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                  Just cross boundaries and help out some other team, when they are critically struck. And then get loads of praise from the boss, publicly. -As if the other team members have been always incompetent to fix problems. The dumb one is the boss that praises in public undermining the long term work done by the team members. I instantly reject this kind gesture and acknowledge the hard work done by the team. And let everyone know , how little was the fix technique. I guess this is so fundamental. Not sure why the bosses are unaware of these work-etiquettes. If you are a boss, please note down :) hehe

                  Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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                  Lost User
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                  Show me the money!

                  "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                    Yeah but you know, the kind of words used by the boss would make even a rabbit turn into a snake. For example, like "Now I know whom to call when we get an issue" . I just put myself teams place. That would be a real turn off. I'm sure they would want to take the harder route and find it by themselves than to let a smart-arse in and take away all their credits.

                    Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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                    Greg Lovekamp
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                    I guess that is the part I was misunderstanding in you original post. The boss praised you publicly, which is something most employees appreciate. In fact, appreciation rates higher with most employees than pay increases. So, your original assessment that the boss should not praise had me confused. "Now I know whom to call when we get an issue" is not the best phrasing, however, for such praise. It can certainly be thought of as belittlement, and perhaps was intended as such. Indeed, depending on how long the group had been stuck, it may be entirely accurate. Nonetheless, it is not the way I would have phrased it. BUT, you cannot control how the boss handled the situation. You can only control how YOU handle the situation. It is relatively easy to change from being the enemy to being a good friend. If you waltz into a situation, solve the problem, and waltz out, then the enemy status isn't caused by the boss: that status was because you didn't become involved. If on the other hand, you worked side-by-side, in the trenches with the others, if once you spotted the problem and the solution, you showed the team members what the problem/solution was and, more importantly, HOW you were able to determine that problem/solution, you are no longer the enemy. Regardless of what the boss says, you will be the "helpful guy", willing to share all of your knowledge, helping to boost everyone higher. Make sure when you are publicly praised, you say thank you but that it was truly a group effort and without the collective effort of the ENTIRE team the problem would not have been solved.

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                    • E Eytukan

                      Just cross boundaries and help out some other team, when they are critically struck. And then get loads of praise from the boss, publicly. -As if the other team members have been always incompetent to fix problems. The dumb one is the boss that praises in public undermining the long term work done by the team members. I instantly reject this kind gesture and acknowledge the hard work done by the team. And let everyone know , how little was the fix technique. I guess this is so fundamental. Not sure why the bosses are unaware of these work-etiquettes. If you are a boss, please note down :) hehe

                      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.

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                      WOAH! Mystery Unlocked. I didn't think about it this at all. It kinda makes a lot of sense.

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                      • B Bill McKidd

                        As a 13 year Naval Officer the cornerstones in leadership: Praise in public. Criticize in private. What you describe is not so much praise, but passive criticism of the team. This isn't leadership. This is decisive, and results in resentment. Your boss publicly put you above the other members. Your boss should have simply praisedon't you efforts and encouraged the team.

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                        CodeWraith
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                        Luftwaffe, 8 years. I could not have described it better.

                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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