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    Chrismaster
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    Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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      Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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      Maybe this should be in the Soapbox? I could be mistaken. :sigh:

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        Maybe this should be in the Soapbox? I could be mistaken. :sigh:

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        Chrismaster
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        Yea you got a point there

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          Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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          I'll try to make this short. :-D I'm in the US. Before the internet, we as serfs, had no power. We were beholden to commerce from every side. Phone books, way overpriced CDs and albums with one or two listenable songs on them, video rentals, the phone company, calling around. Everything cost a little to use it and what you were getting was information in many cases. Those whole liked to control that power lost it largely to the internet. Suddenly the peasants had the power! Dear me now what? Now they want it back.

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            I'll try to make this short. :-D I'm in the US. Before the internet, we as serfs, had no power. We were beholden to commerce from every side. Phone books, way overpriced CDs and albums with one or two listenable songs on them, video rentals, the phone company, calling around. Everything cost a little to use it and what you were getting was information in many cases. Those whole liked to control that power lost it largely to the internet. Suddenly the peasants had the power! Dear me now what? Now they want it back.

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            I Agree with Ron Anders. It's all about who controls the power.

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              Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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              Chrismaster wrote:

              How economy people destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS * They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for How governments companies destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet not using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its not stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it every single time for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages across the whole internet confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? * They misinterpret government legislation and show warnings when they don't actually have to

              Agreed.

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                Chrismaster wrote:

                How economy people destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS * They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for How governments companies destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet not using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its not stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it every single time for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages across the whole internet confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? * They misinterpret government legislation and show warnings when they don't actually have to

                Agreed.

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                F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                * They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for

                Absolutely!

                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                  Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                  What browser are you using?

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                    Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                    And your next rant will be about how the internet is harvesting your personal data, you need to be reasonable about the cost of all that information and access. I have noticed a spike in warnings and cookie authorisations but I hardly consider it intrusive. I do like to get things for free but am aware my data is the cost of those things. As for a paywall, I admit I do dislike it on my local paper web site (15 euros seems a little steep) but I expect to pay the AUD$3 a month for the service. I know I'll be paying for the journalistic service not the removal of adds.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Chrismaster wrote:

                      How economy people destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS * They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for How governments companies destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet not using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its not stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it every single time for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages across the whole internet confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? * They misinterpret government legislation and show warnings when they don't actually have to

                      Agreed.

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                      "They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for" - This is how the internet started, people volunteering to share stuff for free... - Companies saw the potential in this, and we had a .com boom - As history tends to repeat itself, companies saw that we were okay with the model of constant advertisement: for example in cable TV; we pay for the content that we want and were okay with it being interrupted by Advertisements... So most companies have carried this model to the internet (see the newspaper 15 Euro example). - Ah but with the internet we are interactive; we were ignoring the ads! Unlike the cable TV where we were under the mercy of the networks. Solution? Intrusive ad campaigns! "Personalized" ads! Use well-known browser bugs to advertise! More! More! Collect user data! Sell user data! No mercy! Use ads for politics! Use ads to control bowel movement! There is no good, no evil, there is only Powa! In conclusion: Please don't be tempted by the dark side.

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                        Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                        Steely Dan did a song, the first line of which is "I heard it was you, talking 'bout a world where all is free, it just couldn't be, only a fool would say that..." You must be pretty young, or you would realize that "There's no such thing as a free lunch" is totally, completely, and absolutely true. Relax. It won't get any better. :laugh:

                        It's a random chance Universe and we are all out there surfing waves of probability... Schrödinger's Cat

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                          Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                          Most software developers are very willing to provide for free the software they have developed, and been paid for in full by their employers.

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                            Most software developers are very willing to provide for free the software they have developed, and been paid for in full by their employers.

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                            Member 7989122 wrote:

                            Most software developers

                            I guess we know different developers.

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                              Chrismaster wrote:

                              How economy people destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS * They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for How governments companies destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet not using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its not stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it every single time for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages across the whole internet confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? * They misinterpret government legislation and show warnings when they don't actually have to

                              Agreed.

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                              Heh, I have noticed that a lot of people don't know that the Cookie warnings only apply to tracking cookies, and session cookies are explicitly excepted from the rules.

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                                Yea you got a point there

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                                @Sean-Ewington or @Chris-Maunder would you please move the thread to the soapbox? Thanks

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                                  Lost User
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                                  How do you think the internet gets financed? Do you pay anything to all the sites you visit, all the videos you watch?

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                                    "They want things but they don't want to pay for them, they think everything should be free, but not the work they do, that should be paid for" - This is how the internet started, people volunteering to share stuff for free... - Companies saw the potential in this, and we had a .com boom - As history tends to repeat itself, companies saw that we were okay with the model of constant advertisement: for example in cable TV; we pay for the content that we want and were okay with it being interrupted by Advertisements... So most companies have carried this model to the internet (see the newspaper 15 Euro example). - Ah but with the internet we are interactive; we were ignoring the ads! Unlike the cable TV where we were under the mercy of the networks. Solution? Intrusive ad campaigns! "Personalized" ads! Use well-known browser bugs to advertise! More! More! Collect user data! Sell user data! No mercy! Use ads for politics! Use ads to control bowel movement! There is no good, no evil, there is only Powa! In conclusion: Please don't be tempted by the dark side.

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                                    Nathan Minier
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                                    iskSYS wrote:

                                    This is how the internet started, people volunteering to share stuff for free...

                                    Yeah, that's why Compuserv was free, and why I had a million and one drink coasters with AOL one month "free trial" software on them. That's why DARPA paid for the original backbones. That's why universities joined the fray, and started charging computer lab fees. Stop drinking the Kool Aid. Just because you didn't pay for it doesn't mean that it was free.

                                    "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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                                      Today marks the day that I've started to realize, how economies and governments seem to be on a mission to destroy the Internet as we know it. I don't know how you guys are feeling about this, but I generally get pissed after trying to read the news for 10 minutes. How economy destroys the Internet: * We got more and more ads slapped in our faces, until we start to install ad blockers to have the content we actually want * After installing ad blockers we get "adblocker blocking ads", which explain in a "get a bad remorse" fashion how important the ad revenue for the site hoster is, preventing us from viewing content * Last time i watched a youtube video 13 mins in lenght, it came with six(!) intermissions of 30 secs each, prominently getting the "get paid youtube" call-to-action all around me * Right now happening in EU: Google refuses to pay publishers an amount for displaying their content (which helps them to be discovered by users and generate revenue, see adblocking-blocking above). As a countermeasure publishers are trying to ban all publication/linking/reusal of their works across the internet, which should happen automatically by huge filter systems. Just imagine how many pictures there are of the Eiffel Tower and how many there will be left, once someone demands a takedown. * Paywalls. The worst part of it. The local newspaper of my city tries to lure you in their paid offer by showing you roughly 1/3 of almost all of their news articles. Trying out the paid offer for a month (which is 15 Euros) still shows me a LOAD OF ADS How governments destroy the internet: * Cookie warnings. As there is basically not a single page on the Internet _not_ using cookies, I have to close cookie warnings on any URL i visit. Ironically its _not_ stored in the page's cookies if I gave that consent already, as I get it _every single time_ for most of the pages i visit. * Piracy rules. Thanks to GDPR law effective from May 25th, most of the pages _across the whole internet_ confront me with a full screen consent/terms of use/data policy text. I just wanna see the weather forecast, please? Why is there so much legal text involved? So here we have it, state of the Internet in 2018. What are you guys thoughts? [Ed. Moved to soapbox to allow full-rant mode]

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                                      Martin ISDN
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                                      youngsters don't know the "first" internet. back then it was cyberspace, now it's corporate-space. it was better, it didn't matter. as agent Smith mentioned the first Matrix and the later they were different, but the purpose of the Matrix was always the same.

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