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  • S Slacker007

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    that he somehow hadn't mentioned. Bye!

    that your company somehow didn't catch prior to hiring. :doh:

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    In the UK you can't request a criminal record check unless the role directly requires one - working with children or the vulnerable for example. Then you get them to fill out a form and you apply for a Criminal Records Bureau check which normally takes a couple of months and doesn't give you full details, just a "yes / no" on relevant convictions. In this case, it was before the CRB check system came into being, and there was no way for a company to legally check the records at all!

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      I worked at a bank many years ago where an entire dev. team was let go in the week between Christmas and New year. They were all contractors so they were told by their agents.

      Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        In the UK you can't request a criminal record check unless the role directly requires one - working with children or the vulnerable for example. Then you get them to fill out a form and you apply for a Criminal Records Bureau check which normally takes a couple of months and doesn't give you full details, just a "yes / no" on relevant convictions. In this case, it was before the CRB check system came into being, and there was no way for a company to legally check the records at all!

        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Slacker007
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        In the States most responsible employers do this as part of your pre-hiring process, including drug testing, etc. I know most Government and State positions required it.

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        • S Slacker007

          In the States most responsible employers do this as part of your pre-hiring process, including drug testing, etc. I know most Government and State positions required it.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Ah, but in the UK we have a lot lof legal protection for criminals. Probably because we elect them to Parliament. :sigh:

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            I know some were fired - we have a real problem to get good quality for our QA, so some have to go... However I'm working for the same company for over 20 years and never fired - actually got a 40% raise this month to not to walk away...

            "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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            • S Slacker007

              In the States most responsible employers do this as part of your pre-hiring process, including drug testing, etc. I know most Government and State positions required it.

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              jgakenhe
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              I'm a government employee in Ohio :( but I have never had a drug test. We do have to take a polygraph and an extensive background check is performed not only across the US, but all of NA and Interpol. Now if someone commits a serious misdemeanor, such as a drunk driving, during the past 7 years they won't get a job. If they commit it on the job, they might be fired for it.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                Lost User
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                sort of sacked, asked to quit. short story: boss asked me (as the PM of a project) to lie to a client, I said no! he said go!! 5 minutes later he had my letter and I walked out after demanding (and getting) I still be paid the full notice period. 2 other successive PM's, same project also left in less than a month after I went. 6 months later that company ceased to exist - owing a shit load of money for unfulfilled projects. no regrets, and if ever asked to lie again I would still do the same in a heartbeat.

                This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!

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                • S Slacker007

                  In the States most responsible employers do this as part of your pre-hiring process, including drug testing, etc. I know most Government and State positions required it.

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                  Jon McKee
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                  Can confirm. Some government positions also include an extremely invasive questionnaire. One question even asked me to list names, locations, times, and substances for every instance of drug use I had witnessed over the past 10 years on condition it would not be used against any mentioned peoples for prosecution. It's basically a "tell us all your secrets" form followed by a polygraph to make sure those are all your secrets.

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                  • S Slacker007

                    I thought you were the human representation of Yoda. Are you saying Yoda is redundant? Edit: after reading my post, I see the dilemma. Either Yoda is redundant of you, or you are redundant of Yoda. :)

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Jedi Temple. Anakin Skywalker. About it, think.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                      Now in my mid-40s, I'm only at my third software company. I'm a long-term guy. The first two companies were acquired by larger entities. Both times, a large amount of staff was let go but I was kept around for some period of time to help shut things down. I'm not sure if there's some special meaning I'm supposed to read into this. :~ The nice thing about this (for me at least) is that when they want you to stick around when others are being let go, they're willing to compensate.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        I was laid off once (along with the entire company) in 2001, when the startup I'd joined a year before crashed and burned. /ravi

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                          Lost User
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                          Twice. Celebrated both :cool:

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            I tried to fire a guy once, went through HR process of a written letter warning him to get his shit together, 3 weeks later after actually getting HR to agree to sack him comes the Friday he was to leave HR informs me they don't actually have a process to fire the guy. A year later before he left useless POS he was.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                              virang_21
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                              Yes... during GFC of 2008... I was the victim of thieves in suits at big banks taking down every one but themselves

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                                I'm a government employee in Ohio :( but I have never had a drug test. We do have to take a polygraph and an extensive background check is performed not only across the US, but all of NA and Interpol. Now if someone commits a serious misdemeanor, such as a drunk driving, during the past 7 years they won't get a job. If they commit it on the job, they might be fired for it.

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                                KBZX5000
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                                A polygraph. That just blew my mind. :wtf:

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                                  I worked at a bank many years ago where an entire dev. team was let go in the week between Christmas and New year. They were all contractors so they were told by their agents.

                                  Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  Contracting is different, you expect to be dropped at short notice when the whim takes them. But a permie getting fired is almost unknown in our buisness.

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    I know some were fired - we have a real problem to get good quality for our QA, so some have to go... However I'm working for the same company for over 20 years and never fired - actually got a 40% raise this month to not to walk away...

                                    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                    40% raise this month to not to walk away...

                                    SO they have been keeping your wages low for the last 20? :)

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                                    • K KBZX5000

                                      A polygraph. That just blew my mind. :wtf:

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                                      den2k88
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                                      KBZX5000 wrote:

                                      A polygraph. That just blew my mind

                                      Maybe they set the voltage too high

                                      GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                                        den2k88
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                                        I work only since 6 years and in the same company so my personal experience is limited. In the history of our software team nobody was ever sacked, at most they weren't confirmed after the customary (paid) internship period.

                                        GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          Has anyone working IT ever got sacked? I have resigned, had contracts come to an end (after many many years) but never sacked. And I dont think I have ever worked with someone who was. HOw about you lot?

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                                          zpinklb
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                                          A year or so after I left a rather big company (50k users in Europe alone), one of my former colleagues added all of the European servers into a SCCM (SMS at the time I guess) collection to be rebuilt. The cost was around £18.000.000. He still works there so, no, I don't think it's possible to get fired from an IT job. ;-) A fair few of my current colleagues also cements this belief.

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