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  • F Foothill

    all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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    Gary Wheeler
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    **Warning:** There's no non-smoker like an ex-smoker. I quit smoking 'cold turkey' on January 1, 1991, a week after my wife and I found out she was pregnant with our daughter. After the first couple of days I realized that if I ever picked up another cigarette, I would never truly quit. It would be quit, start, quit, start, over and over again. Keeping that in the back of my mind helped me stay away from the damned things. The physical symptoms of quitting (feeling like all your nerve endings are on fire, irritation, inability to relax) faded over the course of the first couple of weeks. Chewing gum helped with some of the physical habits around smoking. The mental components took a lot longer to get over. I realized that I planned my whole fucking life around opportunities to smoke. Drive to work, 2 cigarettes. Smoke break in the morning, at lunch, and in the afternoon. Drive home from work, 2 cigarettes. It's appalling when you figure out how much of your existence is wrapped up in that pathetic little cylinder of burning brown sh!t. It's been 27+ years. Starting smoking was the dumbest fucking thing I ever did, especially since I did it to "fit in" (God, I was such an asshole). Quitting was the smartest thing. Good luck.

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    • F Foothill

      all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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      DRHuff
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      I quit smoking years ago - now I just burst into flames without any warning whatsoever. (Actually never smoked - both my parents did and they managed to raise 5 kids that can't stand it!) Its a hard trek - good luck.

      I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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      • N Nathan Minier

        I had no desire to quit, but the world is not shaped for smokers at this point. I switched to vaping. It's fine, scratches the itch, and costs so much less: about $25/month, not counting the rig. The only downside is dealing with the annoying people at the shops that are really, really into it. Those guys kinda suck.

        "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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        Foothill
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        I gave vaping a try but it never provided the same experience as real smoking so I stopped using it.

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        • F Foothill

          I gave vaping a try but it never provided the same experience as real smoking so I stopped using it.

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          Nathan Minier
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          I had the same problem until I invested in a rig that actually had some horsepower. Of course, YMMV.

          "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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          • G Gary Wheeler

            **Warning:** There's no non-smoker like an ex-smoker. I quit smoking 'cold turkey' on January 1, 1991, a week after my wife and I found out she was pregnant with our daughter. After the first couple of days I realized that if I ever picked up another cigarette, I would never truly quit. It would be quit, start, quit, start, over and over again. Keeping that in the back of my mind helped me stay away from the damned things. The physical symptoms of quitting (feeling like all your nerve endings are on fire, irritation, inability to relax) faded over the course of the first couple of weeks. Chewing gum helped with some of the physical habits around smoking. The mental components took a lot longer to get over. I realized that I planned my whole fucking life around opportunities to smoke. Drive to work, 2 cigarettes. Smoke break in the morning, at lunch, and in the afternoon. Drive home from work, 2 cigarettes. It's appalling when you figure out how much of your existence is wrapped up in that pathetic little cylinder of burning brown sh!t. It's been 27+ years. Starting smoking was the dumbest fucking thing I ever did, especially since I did it to "fit in" (God, I was such an asshole). Quitting was the smartest thing. Good luck.

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            Foothill
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            Gary Wheeler wrote:

            especially since I did it to "fit in"

            When I started high school, I knew only 4 people out of the 1200 kids in the school. I started smoking first year so I could meet new people and I met lots of interesting people. Not that it's justified but I was was that token nerdy kid they make memes about when I started high school.

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            I realized that I planned my whole f***ing life around opportunities to smoke.

            I have found that to be true as well. God forbid I miss one of my scheduled smoke breaks or Dr. Jekyll turns into Mr. Hyde. At least I can hold myself to never smoking in the car; it makes the interior smell like an ashtray and destroys the upholstery.

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            • N Nathan Minier

              I had no desire to quit, but the world is not shaped for smokers at this point. I switched to vaping. It's fine, scratches the itch, and costs so much less: about $25/month, not counting the rig. The only downside is dealing with the annoying people at the shops that are really, really into it. Those guys kinda suck.

              "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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              Jon McKee
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              Did the same; feel the same. The best part for me is if I feel like going somewhere I can just leave my rig at home. I don't have that "gotta have it NOW!" reaction anymore to nicotine.

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              • F Foothill

                all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                You can do it! Good luck! Keep up the excellent efforts. You will succeed! :rose::rose:

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                • F Foothill

                  I've known smokers that could smoke over two packs a day and I thought that was excessive. It makes my 12-16 smokes a day pale in comparison.

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                  $5 a day

                  It's $7 a pack here and that's at a tobacco shop. The price at gas stations and convenience stores is upwards of $9. And the cost here is 70% tax to boot (which govm't increases every couple of years). It's like they want their taxpayers to live longer :laugh:

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                  Foothill wrote:

                  It's $7 a pack here and that's at a tobacco shop. The price at gas stations and convenience stores is upwards of $9. And the cost here is 70% tax to boot (which govm't increases every couple of years). It's like they want their taxpayers to live longer :laugh:

                  You lucky, lucky bastard. I don't smoke but my Missus does and I've had the luxury of paying for them for many years of the marriage. When we started going out in 1988 you could buy a carton of 10 packets of 25 Winfield (well known brand) for aout AUD$20.00. Now for a single packet of 40's of Horizon, Bonds etc (never existed < 2000) will now set you back about AUD$41.00. Stupid elephanting elephanter didn't start till 19 and watched her Grandmother get her voice box removed in the 70's from throat cancer and from 1998 to 2013 when he died watched her Father live through years of Emphysema, oxygen tanks and looking like an emaciated AIDS victim. Give 'em up, waste of elephanting time.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  • S Slacker007

                    In my personal experience and based on your comment, you are not ready to quit smoking. I am an ex-smoker who smoked 1+ packs a day for 23 years. I have been tobacco free for 12+ years. When I was ready to quit smoking (after years of trying to quit) I did not think about smoking and wishing I could smoke. I later learned that this feeling you are describing is related to failed attempts in quitting. In summary, you are psychologically not ready to quit. you have not hit your rock bottom. good luck. ping me if you need any support, etc. Edit: Important note, wanting to quit smoking is NOT the same things as needing to quit smoking. You will only quit something when you have decided that you truly "need" to quit it.

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                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    I am an ex-smoker who smoked 1+ packs a day for 23 years. I have been tobacco free for 12+ years.

                    From memory you are young than me. How young did you start?

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    • F Foothill

                      all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      I enjoyed smoking and gave up many times, sometimes for as long a 6 months. Then some bastard I was sharing a house with kept offering me a toke, shortly it was back to a pack a day. I found the most effective way was to cut down to a really low number 3-4 per day. Then I removed my self from anyone who smoked for an extended period, no pub, no bull sessions with friends and stopped. Finally worked and it has been 15 years, I still try one every now and then just to prove I can't stand the taste anymore.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      • L Lost User

                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        I am an ex-smoker who smoked 1+ packs a day for 23 years. I have been tobacco free for 12+ years.

                        From memory you are young than me. How young did you start?

                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                        Slacker007
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                        I started smoking at 11 year's of age. I know. Don't ask. Started drinking the hard stuff at 16. Been sober since 2001

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                        • S Slacker007

                          I started smoking at 11 year's of age. I know. Don't ask. Started drinking the hard stuff at 16. Been sober since 2001

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                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          I started smoking at 11 year's of age.

                          That's when the FIL started, but that was 1954 (30 years before you?) he had started full time work and it was probably a Doctor who told him the health benefits.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                          • F Foothill

                            all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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                            Rage
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                            Quitting smoking is not hard, I already did it at least 21 times.

                            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                            • F Foothill

                              all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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                              <provocation> Don't quit. Enjoy. </provocation>

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                              • F Foothill

                                all you can think about is smoking. Arrgh, this is going to be f*****g hard.....:~

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                Just put it out of your mind. I often dont smoke for a few weeks, then do for a day or two. It is actually very easy, just relax.

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                                • F Foothill

                                  Thanks for the support. It really wasn't that far from the mark. Do I really have to quit smoking? Not really. Is it a wise decision to quit smoking? Yes, very much so. The attempt at quitting is the culmination of an internal war of pros vs cons in my head for the last four years. The cons finally started outweighing the pros.

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                                  Alan Faiers
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                                  Take up jogging. At 27 years old I found out I couldn't run a mile. So I made a plan to stop on the 2nd Sunday in January (after Xmas & New Year excesses over). Told everyone I met of plan. DID IT!!! Within 3 months was running 8 miles and enjoying it. Only downside was re-educating my palate to enjoy malt whisky. Never smoked again and 40 years later I'm fatter & lazier, but still here. It's worth the effort.

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    You can do it! Good luck! Keep up the excellent efforts. You will succeed! :rose::rose:

                                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                    Foothill
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                                    Thank you.

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                                    • R Rage

                                      Quitting smoking is not hard, I already did it at least 21 times.

                                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                      Foothill
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                                      That's quit a lot of attempts.

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                                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                                        I enjoyed smoking and gave up many times, sometimes for as long a 6 months. Then some bastard I was sharing a house with kept offering me a toke, shortly it was back to a pack a day. I found the most effective way was to cut down to a really low number 3-4 per day. Then I removed my self from anyone who smoked for an extended period, no pub, no bull sessions with friends and stopped. Finally worked and it has been 15 years, I still try one every now and then just to prove I can't stand the taste anymore.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        Foothill
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                                        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                        I found the most effective way was to cut down to a really low number 3-4 per day.

                                        This is what I am attempting to do. I don't have a pressing need to quit but I know that I quitting is for the best. I also know how my brain operates and quitting cold turkey doesn't work. I have to mentally disassociate the habit triggers for smoking before I can give it up completely.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Foothill wrote:

                                          It's $7 a pack here and that's at a tobacco shop. The price at gas stations and convenience stores is upwards of $9. And the cost here is 70% tax to boot (which govm't increases every couple of years). It's like they want their taxpayers to live longer :laugh:

                                          You lucky, lucky bastard. I don't smoke but my Missus does and I've had the luxury of paying for them for many years of the marriage. When we started going out in 1988 you could buy a carton of 10 packets of 25 Winfield (well known brand) for aout AUD$20.00. Now for a single packet of 40's of Horizon, Bonds etc (never existed < 2000) will now set you back about AUD$41.00. Stupid elephanting elephanter didn't start till 19 and watched her Grandmother get her voice box removed in the 70's from throat cancer and from 1998 to 2013 when he died watched her Father live through years of Emphysema, oxygen tanks and looking like an emaciated AIDS victim. Give 'em up, waste of elephanting time.

                                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                          Foothill
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                                          Michael Martin wrote:

                                          Now for a single packet of 40's of Horizon, Bonds etc (never existed < 2000) will now set you back about AUD$41.00.

                                          That's $30 USD a pack!! :omg: They don't even pay that much in New York. The misses is going to make you bankrupt at those prices.

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