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    dandy72
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    For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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      For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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      dandy72 wrote:

      Microsoft IntelliMouse

      It's what I'm using, and I really can't remember when I bought it...I think it's been on the last 4 builds, so that make it around 15 years old. I do remember that it cost around $40 USD at the time. I also use a MS wireless mouse for the laptop. That one is at least 10 years old. Both still work perfectly. If either quit, I will be opting for MS again. :) The keyboard imho is the thing I'm most likely to miss when it finally goes. It's an HP from 1998...from my first Windows system. I had to find a PS/2 to USB converter for the new rig. :)

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        For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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        RossMW
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        dandy72 wrote:

        I've tried many alternatives over the years

        I just use a boring old HP standard mouse. They're fairly similar to the MS Intellimouse.

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          For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          dandy72 wrote:

          I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand

          You got that right! I'm left handed (all the most creative people are) but use the right handed button configuration of a logitec (or any other brand) of wireless mouse. When it dies, every 2-3 tears I get another one.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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            Jon McKee
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            I really like my Corsair M65. It's a similarly simple design and taller than most which is nice for my huge hands. They don't sell the original anymore but I'll probably pick up an M65 Pro whenever this breaks.

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              dandy72 wrote:

              Microsoft IntelliMouse

              It's what I'm using, and I really can't remember when I bought it...I think it's been on the last 4 builds, so that make it around 15 years old. I do remember that it cost around $40 USD at the time. I also use a MS wireless mouse for the laptop. That one is at least 10 years old. Both still work perfectly. If either quit, I will be opting for MS again. :) The keyboard imho is the thing I'm most likely to miss when it finally goes. It's an HP from 1998...from my first Windows system. I had to find a PS/2 to USB converter for the new rig. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              dandy72
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              kmoorevs wrote:

              so that make it around 15 years old. I do remember that it cost around $40 USD at the time

              The timeframe sounds about right, and it just cost me $42 CAD right now, 15 years later. So...good value for the money, I have to think.

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                For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                I have a Logitech M705 "Wireless Laser Optical" at work, and another M705 I travel with for my laptop, and a very similar model (rechargeable battery, docking station) Logitech MX1000 for my main desktop at home, that mouse must be over 10 years old now and still going strong, had to replace the docking station power brick in 2016, but managed to find the correct exact replacement brick on ebay. It just feels right in terms of weight and shape, and guess I have just got used to it over the god knows how many years I have had it. The M705 battery lasts for ages which also helps. Feels really weird if I use any others now. [Logitech for Business – Marathon Mouse M705](https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/marathon-mouse-m705) [Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse Review & Rating | PCMag.com](https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1641270,00.asp)

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                  For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                  CodeWraith
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                  dandy72 wrote:

                  but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them.

                  The mouse of my old Atari ST is from 1986 and still works fine. Why don't you just buy a few microswitches in an electronics store, solder out the worn out ones in the mouse and replace them? Edit: Has it really become so absurd to make simple repairs? So yes, instead of buying a new mouse, I suggest you get yourself a 25W soldering iron, a solder pump and some replacement parts.

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                    RickZeeland
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                    At work they saddled me up with a pricey 3dconnexion cadmouse, although I don't do any CAD work. The right mousebutton is very small, which drove me crazy at first, but now I'm getting used to it. Also it has very sensitive extra buttons which I press accidentally all the time and which do unpredictable things. For some strange reason this mouse was given an "IF Design award" :omg: 3Dconnexion: CadMouse[^]

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                      For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                      Peter_in_2780
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                      I've used Logitech M187[^] for ages. I currently have 4 (in different colours!). I like the small size and light weight - it engages my fingertips, not the whole paw. In the dim distant past, I had one in the same package (or very similar) that did Bluetooth. Cheers, Peter

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                        For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                        I use a Logi Trackman - the "upside down mice" - and they work really well for me, much better than standard mice. Every now and then the switches start to play up - normally after some years - so I take 'em apart, desolder the iffy uSwitch and solder a new one in, and I'm good for more years. Normally costs me about £1.50 or less per switch and the code is printed on the side of the switch itself. Easy to get from Fleabay.

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                          For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                          Weird - on Friday I dumped my multi-button, multi-function gaming mouse for a basic Microsoft mouse - optical, USB, and I am much happier with it. Wasn't cheap though, compared to others.

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                            For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                            Honestly, I think Microsoft builds better mouse devices than software. For me the Comfort 4500 series remains unbeaten in comfort and durability.

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                              Weird - on Friday I dumped my multi-button, multi-function gaming mouse for a basic Microsoft mouse - optical, USB, and I am much happier with it. Wasn't cheap though, compared to others.

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                              I spent way too much for a programmable multibutton mouse and whil I can say I'm satisfied with it I don't think I'll ever buy one again - it has a lot of nice features but not the capability od implementing the one function I desired.

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                                For years--nay, decades--I've stuck with my old Microsoft IntelliMouse - I've had a few of them, but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them. Some just died altogether. You can find the older model like mine on Amazon and eBay - but those who have them know they're no longer available, and they're asking $100, $200, even $250 for them. *That's* not gonna happen. I've tried many alternatives over the years. I must be very fussy about mouse shapes and how it fits in your hand, because I hate just about every mouse that's in stores nowadays. I'm not a fan of wireless mice, so that limits my options. I've always found wireless mice to be trying too hard to go to sleep to save the battery - so if I'm slowing down to do some precision selection (moving just a few pixels at a time), it might go into sleep mode, so I have to give the mouse a jerk to wake it up, which means the cursor is now at the other end of the monitor. That could be just me, but my experience with them has been consistent. After I've purchased 4 or 5 different models, I had to wonder why I should expect a different outcome and have given up on them. 2 months ago I found some cheap off-brand $30 wired mouse I liked the shape of. I've put up with it for this long - it's not horrible. Less than 2 weeks ago however, the scrollwheel started to misbehave - if I scroll down 3-4 lines, it'll do it but also scroll back up a bit, so I have to fight it constantly, and simply scrolling to the end of a document is now taking roughly double the time it would ordinarily require. So I told myself if Microsoft ever ran another batch of their original IntelliMouse - I'd buy enough of them to last me a lifetime. My lifetime, that is. Then something unexpected happened: MS has brought back that very model. Well, a slightly updated version, but still the same basic model. Wired, USB, optical, that's all I want. Nothing fancy. So as I promised myself, I purchased 5 of them, and I just received the whole lot at lunchtime today. I've been using one of them since. I forgot how well these simply *work*. Call me a shill if you want, I don't care. [This](https://www.amazon.ca/Microsoft-HDQ-00001-Classic-IntelliMouse/dp/B076C

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                                More than a decade ago IBM made a big, dark blue "ergonomic" mouse. Wired, two buttons and a wheel with a couple of thumb buttons. It was great; it fitted my large hand - and I would still be using it if my son hadn't stolen it for his gaming machine. :((

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                                  I use a Logi Trackman - the "upside down mice" - and they work really well for me, much better than standard mice. Every now and then the switches start to play up - normally after some years - so I take 'em apart, desolder the iffy uSwitch and solder a new one in, and I'm good for more years. Normally costs me about £1.50 or less per switch and the code is printed on the side of the switch itself. Easy to get from Fleabay.

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                                  I've always been intrigued by these trackballs. I've used one exactly once, and it didn't take long for my thumb to get sore. I have to assume this is something that goes away with time, rather than get progressively worse...?

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                                    dandy72 wrote:

                                    but they've eventually all developed annoying quirks...the left mouse button would stop working and "drop" a window as I'm dragging it by its caption...right-clicks that wouldn't register unless I tried a few times, pressing harder each time...that sort of thing. I've taken apart/cleaned these a number of times, but in the end, I had to give up on all of them.

                                    The mouse of my old Atari ST is from 1986 and still works fine. Why don't you just buy a few microswitches in an electronics store, solder out the worn out ones in the mouse and replace them? Edit: Has it really become so absurd to make simple repairs? So yes, instead of buying a new mouse, I suggest you get yourself a 25W soldering iron, a solder pump and some replacement parts.

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                                    I've never had the finesse for soldering guns, and on top of that these days I lack the patience. I also wouldn't know what electronics store to order these parts from. Maybe I'll just snailmail you my whole box of dead mice. :-)

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                                      I've always been intrigued by these trackballs. I've used one exactly once, and it didn't take long for my thumb to get sore. I have to assume this is something that goes away with time, rather than get progressively worse...?

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                                      They take some getting used to, but once you develop the muscles a bit, you don't want to go back! No more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click the button, ...

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                                        Honestly, I think Microsoft builds better mouse devices than software. For me the Comfort 4500 series remains unbeaten in comfort and durability.

                                        GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                        I think a lot of the hardcore MS haters will admit liking their hardware. My preferred keyboards have also always been Microsoft's. I wish they'd update their original beige Natural Ergonomic keyboard from circa 1995 - I've worn out at least two of them. Although these days they'd be rather inconvenient without the Windows key (and a few multimedia buttons that I've grown accustomed to). My current compromise is the Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 v1.0. It's by far the closest thing they had to the original design (in terms of layout), although having the "6" key on the left half instead of the right still trips me up to this day.

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                                          They take some getting used to, but once you develop the muscles a bit, you don't want to go back! No more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click the button, ...

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                                          Did you drill yours to your desk? :-)

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