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  • T The Limey

    The demo turns into the final product!

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    Christopher Duncan
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    Another timeless example! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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    • R Rocky Moore

      Christopher Duncan wrote: Am I missing any? Client insolvent/bankrupt and cannot pay past nor present development costs! Rocky Moore <><

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      Christopher Duncan
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      Ouch! That's gotta hurt on payday... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      • R Roger Wright

        Vaporware => any product which is sold/hyped before actually being created. Clueless managers commonly require the use of such products by their design teams because the donuts and alcohol flow freely at Marketing Events designed to presell them. The Motorola 68000 was one such product (I believe the term first came into usage when it was announced), as the Wescon where it was announced seemed to be completely dominated by it; data sheets were handed out, contracts signed, and products using it were designed two years before actual hardware was available. I also recall a language - it may have been Java, as all I remember of it was that it started with a J - that US Navy contracts required to be used for all firmware development. The contracts also specified that all coding had to use a fully DoD-qualified compiler. No such compiler existed, nor was ever qualified during the life of the contracts we worked on. "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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        Roger Wright wrote: I also recall a language - it may have been Java, as all I remember of it was that it started with a J JOVIAL. I never used it, never met anyone who used it, and never saw any programs written in it. Sure heard a lot about it though... :suss:


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        • S Shaun Wilde

          you really should read 'the mythical man month' and 'death march' and that list you will realise will just grow and grow...

          Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
          But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
          - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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          Shaun Wilde wrote: you really should read 'the mythical man month' and 'death march' and that list you will realise will just grow and grow... Christopher Duncan could have written those two books :)

          Paul Watson
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          brianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.

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          • R Roger Wright
            • Updating software that should be scrapped
            • Vaporware dependencies
            • Reorganization
            • Delayed Requirements w/out schedule relief
            • Unmentioned Marketing promises to the customer

            Just a few... "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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            Roger Wright wrote: Updating software that should be scrapped ...is software that was totally re-written yet could have done beter with a simple upgrade :) I know I am the cause for that problem often enough. New things rock, old things don't. But of late I have learnt to better identify what needs to be re-written and what just needs a slap and tickle. Roger Wright wrote: Delayed Requirements w/out schedule relief Very true!

            Paul Watson
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            brianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              There's not many programmers doing this for a living who haven't run into their share of nightmare experiences. Almost none of them have to do with our skills as programmers, but rather come as the result of poor management or just plain Stupid Decisions. Here's my current list of project disasters:

              • Blown or unrealistic deadlines
              • Scope creep
              • Unstable software (poor quality)
              • Clumsy software (poor design or programmers constrained by management)
              • The never ending / never delivered project
              • Arbitrarily cancelled projects
              • Maintenance nightmares
              • Crisis management – changing directions every 5 minutes

              Am I missing any? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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              Shaun Wilde
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              - latest project methodology always a great way of terminating a project with extreme prejudice - decide to use the latest project methodology and then tell the team that they are to only use this methodology to design and implement the project - no one understands the methodology so more time is spent learning the methodology rather then working on the project

              Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
              But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
              - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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              • P Paul Watson

                Shaun Wilde wrote: you really should read 'the mythical man month' and 'death march' and that list you will realise will just grow and grow... Christopher Duncan could have written those two books :)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                brianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.

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                Shaun Wilde
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                I felt so happy after I read those books as I realised - "it isn't just me"

                Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
                But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
                - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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                • G Gary R Wheeler

                  Roger Wright wrote: I also recall a language - it may have been Java, as all I remember of it was that it started with a J JOVIAL. I never used it, never met anyone who used it, and never saw any programs written in it. Sure heard a lot about it though... :suss:


                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  Now that you mention it the memory comes back... JOVIAL it was, and I still wonder whether anyone ever successfully fielded a project using it.:-D "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Shaun Wilde wrote: you really should read 'the mythical man month' and 'death march' and that list you will realise will just grow and grow... Christopher Duncan could have written those two books :)

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    brianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Paul Watson wrote: Christopher Duncan could have written those two books Did I mention my pen names? :-) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                    • C ColinDavies

                      Christopher, I'd like to see one day some stats on the percentage of projects completed compared with the way they were organised. I'm sure that projects with heavy SA involvement fail more than any other. Regardz Colin J Davies

                      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                      Warning Link to the minion's animation, do not use. It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Colin Davies wrote: I'd like to see one day some stats on the percentage of projects completed compared with the way they were organised. If you ever find such stats, I'd be interesteed in a read as well... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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