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Great News! VB6 support likely to continue into Windows 12

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  • A alang_icon

    Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

    VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

    Real programmers rejoice!

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    Lost User
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    A post is not the same as support. VB6 has not been supported for a long time now. Anyone who still uses it, deserves it :)

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      "Real programmers" and "VB6" are not something I'd expect to see in the same sentence. Except when separated by "don't use" of course.

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      Haven't used VB6 in years. I have seen some appalling stuff written in it (functions called "UseThisOne", "ThisOneWorks" (it didn't) and "Fred2" (wonder what happened to Fred1 ?) together with your own personal favourite lots of "Resume Next" etc).

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        A post is not the same as support. VB6 has not been supported for a long time now. Anyone who still uses it, deserves it :)

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions. Don't know what they would do if it didn't work. Still, it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment).

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        • A alang_icon

          I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions. Don't know what they would do if it didn't work. Still, it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment).

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          alang_icon wrote:

          I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions.

          No, it doesn't, and no you don't. VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          • A alang_icon

            Haven't used VB6 in years. I have seen some appalling stuff written in it (functions called "UseThisOne", "ThisOneWorks" (it didn't) and "Fred2" (wonder what happened to Fred1 ?) together with your own personal favourite lots of "Resume Next" etc).

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            alang_icon wrote:

            wonder what happened to Fred1

            Win10, VB6, Fred2. See a pattern?

            I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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            • A alang_icon

              I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions. Don't know what they would do if it didn't work. Still, it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment).

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              OriginalGriff
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              alang_icon wrote:

              it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment Amid Development ).

              FTFY!

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              • A alang_icon

                Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

                Real programmers rejoice!

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                VB6? Was that the one that came with a chisel and a tablet of stone for an IDE?

                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                  VB6? Was that the one that came with a chisel and a tablet of stone for an IDE?

                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                  Nathan Minier
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                  I'm not positive that the chisel had been developed yet. VB6 wasn't up to that job.

                  "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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                  • A alang_icon

                    Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                    VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

                    Real programmers rejoice!

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    People bash things they do not understand. I wrote an application in VB6 that interfaces with Avaya phone systems and also had instant messaging and file sharing. It worked great and might even still be in use. Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    • A alang_icon

                      Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                      VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

                      Real programmers rejoice!

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      I can see how large legacy VB6 code-bases would continue to be retained as-is, because re-writing it into a managed framework is a huge ask. What I don't get it why new code would ever get written in VB6, with the lack of support, limited availability of engineers who've used it, etc.

                      Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                        People bash things they do not understand. I wrote an application in VB6 that interfaces with Avaya phone systems and also had instant messaging and file sharing. It worked great and might even still be in use. Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Most people bash VB6 programmers rather than the language because back when it was popular, it was so easy to get started with that it attracted a lot of relatively unskilled programmers. Also, those days, C and C++ were considered the de-facto real programming language on Windows. And anyone not doing in-code memory management was considered a dummy. Ironic that both VB6 and C++ got eliminated by memory-managed language frameworks like C#, JS, and VB.NET :-)

                        Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          I can see how large legacy VB6 code-bases would continue to be retained as-is, because re-writing it into a managed framework is a huge ask. What I don't get it why new code would ever get written in VB6, with the lack of support, limited availability of engineers who've used it, etc.

                          Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                          ^^ What Nish said :thumbsup:

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            People bash things they do not understand. I wrote an application in VB6 that interfaces with Avaya phone systems and also had instant messaging and file sharing. It worked great and might even still be in use. Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            CHill60
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                            Quote:

                            Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                            VB6 was expensive. VB.NET is mostly free. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

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                              Quote:

                              Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                              VB6 was expensive. VB.NET is mostly free. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

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                              CHill60 wrote:

                              VB6 was expensive.

                              How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.

                              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Quote:

                                Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.

                                VB6 was expensive. VB.NET is mostly free. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

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                                kmoorevs
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                                CHill60 wrote:

                                VB6 was expensive

                                What? I got the entire VS 6.0 for $188 (student price) back in '99...fantastic ROI...paid for itself the first week! :laugh:

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                • A alang_icon

                                  Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                                  VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

                                  Real programmers rejoice!

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                                  kmoorevs
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                                  I just love a good flame war early in the morning! :) Long live VB6! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    I can see how large legacy VB6 code-bases would continue to be retained as-is, because re-writing it into a managed framework is a huge ask. What I don't get it why new code would ever get written in VB6, with the lack of support, limited availability of engineers who've used it, etc.

                                    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                    Ryan Peden
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                                    The new VB6 code happens when those large legacy apps need minor updates or changes. At any given point, it's a lot less work to add a bit of code to the existing application than to do a re-write. And so new VB6 code continues to be written, year after year. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some poor soul in 2035 who is still plugging away making updates and additions to a legacy VB6 app. Although at that point, such a person might be able to charge some hefty consulting rates for working in VB6. So perhaps this person would more more of a tortured soul than a poor soul...

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                                      The new VB6 code happens when those large legacy apps need minor updates or changes. At any given point, it's a lot less work to add a bit of code to the existing application than to do a re-write. And so new VB6 code continues to be written, year after year. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some poor soul in 2035 who is still plugging away making updates and additions to a legacy VB6 app. Although at that point, such a person might be able to charge some hefty consulting rates for working in VB6. So perhaps this person would more more of a tortured soul than a poor soul...

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      A tortured soul billing $300/hour sounds pretty doable to me. :rolleyes:

                                      Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        CHill60 wrote:

                                        VB6 was expensive.

                                        How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        VB6 was never free as far as I can remember. You could either buy it as part of Visual Studio (including VC++) or you could buy it standalone (not sure if that was earlier versions though).

                                        Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          CHill60 wrote:

                                          VB6 was expensive.

                                          How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          CHill60
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                                          Only the hooky versions were free :laugh: You had to buy a licence for the IDE - per user OR corporate

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