Are Hot Desks used much?
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Draws draws!!!??? We don't get those at our hot desks. We call it a 'agile' workplace. I guess thats qicker than saying 'we are too cheap to provide a permanent desk for everyone so its first in best dressed'.
Nomadic office worker
'Draws' point where am I going to keep my company jacket & tie?
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
Toe in the spectrum, they are implying the autism spectrum and not adhd.
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
At my desk, I have 5 computers, a KVM switch, a tissue box, lotion, two file cabinets full of notes, disks, dress shoes, shirt, tie, backpacks, mug, water bottles, spare mice and keyboards, a rack of books and binders, and my aluminum foil hat. Most can be moved around from one hot desk to another with a half days work, but the aluminum foil hat might get crushed.
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
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It is a stupid idea and after a couple of weeks of disruption it settles into a stable equilibrium anyway. (It just means they can save time/money on cleaners)
It IS a stupid idea, but don't rely on it 'settling down' - ours hasn't. I'm not working in a Dev environment (it's a pensions admin. office....) but I can assure you that so-called hot-desking is about as popular as a fart in a space suit. Of course, it was imposed from on high by the lords of creation who, in their infinite wisdom, decided that what was good for offices in which staff periodically spent time out in the community was also good for people who never left their desks. Go figure. So now, if you need to discuss work with someone you first have to scan/navigate the entire office looking for them... brilliant and so efficient! We now have the ridiculous situation where people are moved from 'their' desk to make space for another worker who has just come in - so, of course, then a manager has to find somewhere to 'park' the moved member of staff...Monty Python meets 'The Office'.
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Johnny J. wrote:
I fail to see why ANYBODY would want and appreciate such a system.
Because you are capable of rational thought. One place I worked in, one of the senior managers would change the seating plan the office every three months. This is all she did, she contributed nothing else to the business so I am guessing that the time in between was spent planning for the next seating change :rolleyes:
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
aka Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
Sounds like a ready made excuse:"I'll code that routine as soon as I find my desk"
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
The question might be not "how much", but "why"? There are people who make an income by dreaming up ways to change things without respect to whether the change is good or under what set of conditions the changes would be good. These ideas are quite literally "sold" in a way that tells the buyer that this is the newest/hippest/coolest/etc. thing and it would be good PR to do it. I remember the craze about adjustable desktops. That went over like a lead balloon with most developers (especially those over 30). The desire to be seen as contemporary with current trends is a powerful magnet that leads many to behavior they otherwise would know is useless. These fads come and go.
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Hi All, Just wondering my company is moving shortly and some one in the management side has come up with the great idea of no-one having a set 'work station' and each desk would be occupied by who ever wants it. This is due to all the big Tech companies like Apple & Google doing that so it must be a good idea. I mean I like having a home base, also the amount of stuff I have in my draws means I am loathed to give up my desk. Does this mean and I quote 'I have a toe in the spectrum' (I take that to mean ADHD) or is it normal? (I am also under the impression that at least Google had given it up)...
It is a way to make people feel absolutely interchangeable. This is a problem Management has TOO MUCH OF in Software Development. When I was first starting out, we had 2.5 developers. We were looking at a huge copy/rewrite of our legacy system to go into a new market. We "estimated" it would take us 9 months to do this, if we dropped everything, which was not possible, but it gave us a cost basis. We would leave the 0.5 developer to maintain stuff. The 2 programmers were above average. And without distraction, we felt we could live with 9 months to do this. The owner looked at the room, and saw 5 people (a manager who had not programmed in years, a Computer Operations Manager who did not program beyond hobby level, and the 3 other programmers). He said well, if we hire 3 more programmers, you guys should be finished in 2 months. He just called us COGS in a wheel. Just get more of "us" and he will make us live with this. Never mind it took over a month to find and hire each of us, and I helped bring 2 of them in! LOL. So, I stood up and said basically "That's Amazing. So if you go out and hire 180 Programmers, we can have it done for you by tomorrow at noon!" And I walked out of the meeting and went back to work. My boss pulls me into his office about 45 minutes later to let me know that the meeting was not over when I left... I explained: "It was for me". I later read the Mythical Man Month and learned it has been a problem since knowledge workers became a thing. Management is clueless about the ability of any individual who is smarter than they are, or who have skills they do not! == Your future work environment is about normalizing all knowledge workers to be the same. A terrible mistake, because I know from experience that there are Programmers that can do 10-100 times the work of other programmers. We have seen it first hand. We have leveraged it. Good luck!
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Like open plan offices hot desk is a dismal failure for developers, we need our own space, our privacy so we can concentrate and quiet so we can listen to our own music rather than the chatter of an open plan office. It IS a good way for a company to save money and it does work for people who are not in the office the majority of their time.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I'm not a fan. I've been to companies where they hot desk, and the major complaints I heard were that you needed a "drag about" filing cabinet to hold paper and other hardware related to your project; and that not all keyboard and mice are really "the same". Some "feel" different which is annoying, and then there is the "what did the last guy do to this keyboard?" feeling.
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Management will give us lockers like we had in high school.