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  • L littleGreenDude

    when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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    Slow Eddie
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    littleGreenDude wrote:

    file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA.

    I could not agree with this sentiment more.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: The DVD drive on my laptop died and I bought an external USB DVD drive. This laptop will have to die totally and completely for me to tackle the app/license migration thing again.

    At this point, I expect my computers, and pets to out live me.

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      when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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      rnbergren
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      When the kids eventually beg enough that they want a new one. So I give them mine and then get a new buttkicker for myself. My eldest is about to get a really nice surface pro 2. I am looking at the HP Spectre x360. Then in a few months(6 or so) my i5 gaming laptop (used for main coding) from ASus (3 years old or so) will go to the youngest and I will get a better one. This is an unusual year for these types of purchases.

      To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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      • L littleGreenDude

        when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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        Matt McGuire
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        I tend to replace when the tools/OS are just bogging down the machine. sometimes a wipe/new HD helps but sometimes it don't. I still keep the old machines running to test on. there's an 10+ year old Dell laptop I keep running for testing purposes only. I had an older Dell from around 2002 that I was still testing with but it finally gave up the ghost I a puff of smoke one night. I always figured if my stuff runs good on a 900mhz laptop, that I'm doing something right.

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        • L littleGreenDude

          when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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          Greg Lovekamp
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          Different from others that have replied, my PCs tend to look absolutely brand new when I am done with them (no broken screens, dents, dings, etc.). As such, I probably hang onto them longer. I also do not use mine for my working life: my employer supplies the desktop I use daily. Given all of that, I probably hang onto mine longer than most; however, once the new wizbang features and speeds make my machine look sad and pathetic, and when I have the available funds, I upgrade. For reference, my work computer is Windows 10, but my home life is Mac. My 2011 MacBook Pro will not upgrade to the next macOS, so for me, the clock toward a newer model has started. I suspect it will be about two years from now that I will make such a purchase. This posting caused me to think back about what machines I have had since 1980, and amazingly, to me at least, the cycle seems to be pretty steady at about six years! 1980-Atari, 1986-Amiga, 1993-DEC Starion (Windows), 1998-Gateway, 2004-Dell, 2010-iMac, 2014-MacBook Pro (which was more of a form factor change, desktop to laptop, rather than features).

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          • L littleGreenDude

            when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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            SeattleC
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            I only upgrade when my old machine becomes unusable, either because it's too slow or because hardware has failed. I used to spend a lot of time thinking about my computer; how many ports did it need, what hardware peripherals might be important for the next few years. I bought desktops because they were easier to add stuff to than laptops were. And then I had a liberating realization. I realized that I never upgraded the peripherals on my PC. I used the same graphics board. I never installed any high speed peripherals that needed access to the backplane. When a new port came along that I wanted, it was something that had appeared out of nowhere, so that I couldn't have predicted it five years previously. Oh sure, I once bought a SCSI hard drive. I got the SCSI card to work (barely), but when the PC crapped out, I discovered that the card wasn't compatible with my PC's replacement. I replace my mice, keyboards, and monitors more frequently than my PCs, and the manufacturers know it, so they use widely available ports. I have VGA-to-PCI and VGA-to-HDMI interface cables galore, but these only cost $15, so when I need a newer or different one, I just buy it. The old ones go into my box-o-cables. I get hardware lust like the rest of you, and buy a new peripheral, like a WACOM tablet or a webcam. These languish in their boxes, or get tried and rejected. Every peripheral I actually want to use is included in the vendor-supplied configuration of my next PC.

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            • L littleGreenDude

              :thumbsup: Thank you for the advice. I checked last night and it did have a 500 GB HDD. Ordered a 1 TB SSD. Now I just have to be patient and wait the week for it to arrive. :)

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              matblue25
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              I also think that’s the answer. I’ve now updated three laptops (wife’s, her friend and a buddy of mine). Made a huge difference in each case. The old HDDs were all 5400rpm. Check your performance with Task Manager some time when you think the laptop is running slow. If it shows 100% disk and low cpu and memory utilization, the SSD is definitely going to help. On the laptops I upgraded, disk usage went from 100% down to 20-30% and cpu became the bottleneck. Basically a 3 to 5 time improvement in performance since the cpu was only running 20-30% before and it’s now 100% (when fully loaded).

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              • L littleGreenDude

                when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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                Abbas A Ali
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                I bought a 3rd gen i5 Laptop with 4GB RAM when I started university, that was back in 2011. When I graduated in 2015 I decided to upgrade it, sadly that decision is still pending :sigh: . One of the reasons I keep telling myself is that I don't need the bigger and better system, since I don't work at home (I am one of those 9-5 devs). However in my free time I sometimes fascinate about buying an 8th gen i7 32GB RAM 500SSD and 2TB HDD but then I fall of the bed and wake with a new determination of not buying it! :laugh:

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                • L littleGreenDude

                  when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  I have a several years old Lenovo T-520, with a dual i3 CPU, and 8GB RAM. All I need to stay happy developing on this machine is an SSD and a new battery. Right now if the power goes out I hardly have time to save my work before the battery is flat.

                  "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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                  • L littleGreenDude

                    when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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                    Bruce Patin
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                    The most common performance problem I've come across is waiting on disk errors. Doing a chkdsk/f often fixes it.

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                    • L littleGreenDude

                      when it is time to upgrade your personal laptop (machine)? I've started working on some unity stuff and my laptop isn't quite fast enough. I have 16GB RAM, so I'm thinking the performance is most likely related to the graphics card. That aside the only other thing not working is the touch-pad (external mouse fixes that nicely). Is a change justified? Yes, there is the additional expense, but file / app migration is probably the bigger PITA. Do you treat your laptop like a (lease) car and get a new model every 3 years, or do you keep it until end of life?

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                      Lost User
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                      Windows 10 Creator's Update and XR programming requires a minimum spec machine. [Before you start - Enthusiast Guide | Microsoft Docs](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/enthusiast-guide/before-you-start)

                      "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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