Victoria Day
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David Wulff wrote: Seriously, hate is an awfully strong term, why do you hate our monarchy? Only because you asked -because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years. No, I wouldn't use the term "hate". Dislike is more like it, in my case. No, I don't hate Brits- I just dislike the Crown. On the positive side, you did end the Mughal rule. * You know Kant is from my country, don't you?
Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Only because you asked -because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years No fine perfectly understandable, but what does Canada have to do with India? Kant can hate the Queen for what she did in India but he can't go and impose his hatred on Canadians or their celebrations (even if he is now one of them.) Anyway, hate is a strong word. Use it when you only really mean it.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africabrianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Only because you asked -because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years No fine perfectly understandable, but what does Canada have to do with India? Kant can hate the Queen for what she did in India but he can't go and impose his hatred on Canadians or their celebrations (even if he is now one of them.) Anyway, hate is a strong word. Use it when you only really mean it.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africabrianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.
Paul Watson wrote: Anyway, hate is a strong word. Use it when you only really mean it. Paul, I said I did NOT hate the monarchy. I said "dislike".
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Kant wrote: I hate the Queen and her monarchy.. I wonder if we can still legally hang you for treason? AFAIK I could still legally be hanged for either treason or piracy (the sea worthy kind, not running a copy of Outlook on my laptop). :-D Seriously, hate is an awfully strong term, why do you hate our monarchy? It's a harmless tradition that in some cases actually does quite a lot of good... :confused: I liked this bit: "Like Canadians, the Brits mark the Queen's birthday, but not in May. Queen Elizabeth II's birthday is actually in April, but the public celebration isn't until June. The festivities are held off for a couple of months, waiting for better weather." I guess you poor Canadians can't hold it off all year! :rolleyes:
David Wulff
"Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna
David Wulff wrote: I wonder if we can still legally hang you for treason? I am not a Canadian. ;P David Wulff wrote: Seriously, hate is an awfully strong term, why do you hate our monarchy? I didn't mean HATE really. I mean I don't like them. I am just showing my feelings against the monarchy, no hate punted against English though. :) Actually saw the footage when the Queen visited Canada last year. It was awful waste of money. I agree once they ruled the world. But times changed now, move on... Don't :beer: and drive.
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Shog9 wrote: Show some respect! When every country (my examples are India and Pakistan) who got independence from English, show no respect whatsoever to the Queen. Correct me if I am wrong. I don't understand even when Canada and Oz got their independent country status, still they show the respect to the monarchy. :eek: Don't :beer: and drive.
Kant wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Well, the subtle difference, (AFAIK) is that Canadians were colonists who became independant, while Indians gained independance from the colonists. Correct me if i am wrong...
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Only because you asked -because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years No fine perfectly understandable, but what does Canada have to do with India? Kant can hate the Queen for what she did in India but he can't go and impose his hatred on Canadians or their celebrations (even if he is now one of them.) Anyway, hate is a strong word. Use it when you only really mean it.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africabrianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.
Paul Watson wrote: Kant can hate the Queen for what she did in India but he can't go and impose his hatred on Canadians or their celebrations (even if he is now one of them.) I am not a Canadian, I am not imposing my hatred on Canadians. I am just showing my hard feelings against the monarchy. BTW my kids had fun yesterday night with the fireworks. :rolleyes: Paul Watson wrote: Anyway, hate is a strong word. Use it when you only really mean it. Yes Sir!! *Kant writing in his handy dandy notebook* ;) Don't :beer: and drive.
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Kant wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Well, the subtle difference, (AFAIK) is that Canadians were colonists who became independant, while Indians gained independance from the colonists. Correct me if i am wrong...
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I'd show a smile but I'm too weak I'd share with you, could I only speak
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David Wulff wrote: Seriously, hate is an awfully strong term, why do you hate our monarchy? Only because you asked -because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years. No, I wouldn't use the term "hate". Dislike is more like it, in my case. No, I don't hate Brits- I just dislike the Crown. On the positive side, you did end the Mughal rule. * You know Kant is from my country, don't you?
Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.Vikram Punathambekar wrote: because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years 350? And anyway, I'm glad they were here. And left at just the right time. The Brits are the reason the country you are living in is called India, and not Vijaynagar for example, and I'm in India too, and not in "Bong" for example, and so on. They are the reason why we are both from the same country. They are the reason why we have trains, post office, a modern education system that kicks ass, and can speak English, for example. The reason why so many Indians get so many jobs overseas is that we can speak English well. I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point. :) Vikram Punathambekar wrote: You know Kant is from my country, don't you? Kant is a member since way back, and is well known here I think. :)
Regards,Rohit Sinha
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Kant wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Well, the subtle difference, (AFAIK) is that Canadians were colonists who became independant, while Indians gained independance from the colonists. Correct me if i am wrong...
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I'd show a smile but I'm too weak I'd share with you, could I only speak
Shog9 wrote: Well, the subtle difference, (AFAIK) is that Canadians were colonists who became independant, while Indians gained independance from the colonists. Correct me if i am wrong... I was going to say that Canada and Australia slowly gained autonomy from England, whereas India, Pakistan, and the US fought against England to get their independence. So, the US and Canada are both examples of colonists who became independent, but the US doesn't "respect" the monarchy. So, I think the critical difference is whether or not the countries rebelled against the monarchy. All of this raises questions about cause and effect (did the US revolt because they didn't like the monarchy, or did the US come to dislike the monarchy because they were fighting against it to gain independence, or did the US smother respect for the monarchy because it would compromise the fight for independence?) ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion
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Kant wrote: I hate the Queen and her monarchy.. I wonder if we can still legally hang you for treason? AFAIK I could still legally be hanged for either treason or piracy (the sea worthy kind, not running a copy of Outlook on my laptop). :-D Seriously, hate is an awfully strong term, why do you hate our monarchy? It's a harmless tradition that in some cases actually does quite a lot of good... :confused: I liked this bit: "Like Canadians, the Brits mark the Queen's birthday, but not in May. Queen Elizabeth II's birthday is actually in April, but the public celebration isn't until June. The festivities are held off for a couple of months, waiting for better weather." I guess you poor Canadians can't hold it off all year! :rolleyes:
David Wulff
"Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna
David Wulff wrote: I guess you poor Canadians can't hold it off all year! Hey, I'll take crap about our weather from Chris, but I'm not going to take it from someone who lives in the UK. I've been there :-D David
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: because you occupied our* country for ~ 350 years 350? And anyway, I'm glad they were here. And left at just the right time. The Brits are the reason the country you are living in is called India, and not Vijaynagar for example, and I'm in India too, and not in "Bong" for example, and so on. They are the reason why we are both from the same country. They are the reason why we have trains, post office, a modern education system that kicks ass, and can speak English, for example. The reason why so many Indians get so many jobs overseas is that we can speak English well. I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point. :) Vikram Punathambekar wrote: You know Kant is from my country, don't you? Kant is a member since way back, and is well known here I think. :)
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: And anyway, I'm glad they were here. Undoubtedly, compared to what the Mughals were doing. I feel almost the same way you do, except that I feel we are relatively better off. The argument (not between you and me- I feel we're on the same side, but between the Brit haters and the Brit lovers) could go on, but of what use? I just try to think of the positive side and leave it at that, though I know that they have done a lot of harm as well. I mean, what's the point in thinking of your "ill-luck" when you've been blessed with other good things? Does this last statement have anything to do with the original thread? Regards,
Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design. -
Rohit Sinha wrote: And anyway, I'm glad they were here. Undoubtedly, compared to what the Mughals were doing. I feel almost the same way you do, except that I feel we are relatively better off. The argument (not between you and me- I feel we're on the same side, but between the Brit haters and the Brit lovers) could go on, but of what use? I just try to think of the positive side and leave it at that, though I know that they have done a lot of harm as well. I mean, what's the point in thinking of your "ill-luck" when you've been blessed with other good things? Does this last statement have anything to do with the original thread? Regards,
Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.Vikram Punathambekar wrote: The argument (not between you and me- I feel we're on the same side, but between the Brit haters and the Brit lovers) could go on, but of what use? I just try to think of the positive side and leave it at that, though I know that they have done a lot of harm as well. I agree completely, except that the only harm was the division between India and Pakistan, and between Hindus and Muslims. Other than that, there wasn't any long term effect, so I guess it's OK since it's been such a long time. We can't hold a grudge for all eternity, can we? :) Besides, the positive effects far outweigh anything else.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa